3rd ODI: New Zealand v Australia at Hamilton on Feb 8, 2016

[mozza91]

This decision was correct, that one was incorrect - are you geniused?

I am amazed at some of the BS from some Aussies here - Marsh was out, piss and moan all you like, it was out - no debate

Was merely commenting on the NZ fans whinging after a loss as some Aussie fans have today.
You're spot on it was out. I don't have an issue with that nor do I have problem with questioning an umpire or some onfield banter.
I just thought McCullum's behaviour was hypocritical considering the way NZ supposedly play the game. Especially after he wrote an article criticising Smudger for he did in England.

 

[Meth]

Was merely commenting on the NZ fans whinging after a loss as some Aussie fans have today.
You're spot on it was out. I don't have an issue with that nor do I have problem with questioning an umpire or some onfield banter.
I just thought McCullum's behaviour was hypocritical considering the way NZ supposedly play the game. Especially after he wrote an article criticising Smudger for he did in England.

Really?

What was said? You must be an amazing lip reader to pick up what McCullum said without seeing his lips.

What did NZ do wrong?

It's you blokes that go on about McCullum and the way we play the game. I thought we played a game we can be proud of and in a way that is no way inconsistent with our culture.

And yeah, whinging when he was actually out loses steam pretty quickly

 

[Meth]

Henry did appeal initially. The rule is you can lodge an appeal up to the point of the bowler beginning to run in for the next delivery. In truth, he was out. Remember, for a stumping, run out, or bump ball catch, this is not a team review. These can only be called by an umpire. The team only gets permission to lodge an appeal for a catch based on was it hit or leg before.

Those rules could probably be updated in light of the big screen

 

[Meth]

Final thought for the night from me- I have been critical of McCullum's captaincy over the last 3-6 months in particular. But he was brilliant tonight in that second innings. What a way to go out.

Hopefully it translates to the Tests

 

[ANTiLAG]

How good are Mitchell Marsh's boots?

He never even flinched.

He absolutely smashed that into his toe.

They'd be pretty useful for facing Malinga or Starc yorkers with.

 

[Hutty1986]

My opinion of Steve Smith has lowered a little in this series, but I don't have an issue with his post match comments. They were totally fine

When you say your opinion of Smith...do you mean his on field conduct or his batting?

He had a horrible series but hes obviously much, much better than that.

 

[Meth]

When you say your opinion of Smith...do you mean his on field conduct or his batting?

He had a horrible series but hes obviously much, much better than that.

Conduct. He is a very good batsmen.

No biggie. I was just pointing out that I am not a big fan and yet I saw nothing wrong with his comments

 

[Hutty1986]

Conduct. He is a very good batsmen.

No biggie. I was just pointing out that I am not a big fan and yet I saw nothing wrong with his comments

Fair enough.

I like it when he shows his emotions, he must be furious at some of the 'fielding' his side has come up with lately. A captain should expect nothing less than the best (and i admit his dropped catches have been unacceptable).

Well played NZ. I can admit that now im not as pissed off :lol:

 

[Meth]

Had a read of a couple of Aussie newspapers today- there's some high quality sooking in print today.

 

[JJ]

I am astonished that a clearly correct decision can cause so much outrage - not like there was any ambiguity (e.g., Stoke) - the process wasn't great, but nobody was robbed here. Edit - well, the poor umpiring decision was against Milne in this game, not Marsh

Always gracious in defeat. Great to see that the NZ cricket team is causing discomfort for Australians - hilarious.

 

[ozbash]

Been a weekend of controversies.

7's final and now the cricket....

 

[Iafeta]

I dont think anyone dispute that Marsh was out, however the replay should never have been played till the next ball was bowled.

The Kiwis only appealed the decision once they saw the replay, precedent has now been set.

Will players wait for the replay now before reviewing the decision ?

I don't think we will see any replays so soon anymore, this could open a huge can of worms.

When I went to the SCG years ago, the replay was always a ball behind in the big screen. I would be surprised if the ICC don't mandate that to be the policy again because it works.

In terms of the appeal, Henry appealed straight away however convincing or unconvicing. In terms of players awaiting a replay to appeal, the player referrals only have 15 seconds. This was a bump ball review which is only called by the umpire.

 

[Iafeta]

Was merely commenting on the NZ fans whinging after a loss as some Aussie fans have today.
You're spot on it was out. I don't have an issue with that nor do I have problem with questioning an umpire or some onfield banter.
I just thought McCullum's behaviour was hypocritical considering the way NZ supposedly play the game. Especially after he wrote an article criticising Smudger for he did in England.

Honestly, this "way they play the game" is a massive beat up, largely if anything perpetuated by the Australian media trying to sell them as a Cinderella act. The only time I recall them talking about being genuine good blokes was after the Phil Hughes incident, where their attitude was unbelievable and a terrific tribute to Phiil, bless his soul.

They don't really sledge too much. I don't think that's a deliberate ploy like the media make out. I think blokes like Boult and Southee aren't natural with that sort of thing.

 

[The Charlatan]

Had a read of a couple of Aussie newspapers today- there's some high quality sooking in print today.

I've never seen more sulking over a correct decision being given. It's bordering on an embarrassment.

It's a freak way to get out (unfortunate in that the ball managed to clear completely off his boot,) and sucks because he was travelling so well and the game was on the line but if it were roles reversed I'd not be complaining if the Aussies benefited from the decision.

 

[The Charlatan]

Moreover, I'd like to see a review of the side after this ODI series. They are simply not picking the bowlers to get the job done and the middle order is just piss at the moment.

Smith, Maxwell and Bailey all look ordinary at the moment. I really would like to see Smith spend a year or two in county to learn to play the moving ball but it's rather unlikely to happen.

 

[JJ]

Did Maxwell come to NZ, missed that :lol:

 

[Bazal]

I think those who think the conjecture is over the correctness of the decision have totally missed the point.

Do you think it's a good thing, moving forward, for teams to watch the big screen replay and then appeal? That's the controversy, what there is of it anyway.

 

[JJ]

I think those who think the conjecture is over the correctness of the decision have totally missed the point.

Do you think it's a good thing, moving forward, for teams to watch the big screen replay and then appeal? That's the controversy, what there is of it anyway.

They appealed... the mistake was Gould should have checked it as a matter of course - the veracity of the appeal is irrelevant

Again, the outrage from Marsh on the field, and others since is hilarious - very classy, there are reports to be made, do things via proper channels, don't engage in heated debates on the field when they can obviously be avoided (Doull should never have put Smith on the spot) - but the histrionics from the Australians were laughable, and the media whinging unbelievable - the constant line is "we just want the right decision made", then one is under less than ideal circumstances and you're crying foul, one wasn't at Adelaide and you celebrate what you think is a dominant win.

Marsh knew he was out, the pouting etc was churlish, as was Wade's bullshit - as Elliott said to Wade "love your work" :lol:

 

[Hutty1986]

did maxwell come to nz, missed that :lol:

levers!

 

[Bazal]

As a batsman I would be every bit as livid as Marsh, just at the shitty luck as much as anything. Your assumption that he was angry at the decision is pretty baseless really.