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3rd Test: Australia v New Zealand at Adelaide on Nov 27-Dec 1, 2015

Pete Cash

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Yep all the modern batters are overrated clowns

The Warner's,Williamson's,Smith's Root's would average 30 in a non genius era

No they wouldnt because guys in the 90s averaged the same into the 00s and guys into the 00s averaged the same into the 10s. They would have averaged less in the 70s and 80s because everyone did. In every other era roughly the same amount of guys averaged over 50. AB is the best batsman in the world...its not like he averages 70. Whats with this wierd veneration of the past.

If computers replace umpires and they give those technically out lbws out like smith got it would completely change the game. In the entirety of test cricket and at every level below test that would be considered high. Computer umpire going beep boop .1 of a mm would have grazed the stumps out would be a huge change to the game
 

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It's not just batsmen, though, it seems to have infected the entire cricket world to a point. The commentators seem to be suffering from the same thing as the batsmen. Or they just have no confidence in them. But from the start they were saying "Australia have to win this today, this testwill be over today." Why? You bat til the dinner break tomorrow, and you win. It might not be pretty, dominant cricket, but you still win the game. It's day 3 ffs! Why the rush? Commit to being there this time tomorrow and you win the game in the process.
 

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If theres three blokes you'd want to be out there batting for your life, they would definitely be the Marsh brothers and Voges
 

Pete Cash

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It's not just batsmen, though, it seems to have infected the entire cricket world to a point. The commentators seem to be suffering from the same thing as the batsmen. Or they just have no confidence in them. But from the start they were saying "Australia have to win this today, this testwill be over today." Why? You bat til the dinner break tomorrow, and you win. It might not be pretty, dominant cricket, but you still win the game. It's day 3 ffs! Why the rush? Commit to being there this time tomorrow and you win the game in the process.

Cricket administrators prefer it. If smith batted like a snail and got undone by a good one on say....30 and we lost he would be torn to pieces by the press for batting too slowly.

Like if we go back to the bad old days of lawry and boycott those types of players hurt cricket. Especially after the dashing players of the 30s and 40s. I think players are encouraged to attack
 

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It's not just batsmen, though, it seems to have infected the entire cricket world to a point. The commentators seem to be suffering from the same thing as the batsmen. Or they just have no confidence in them. But from the start they were saying "Australia have to win this today, this testwill be over today." Why? You bat til the dinner break tomorrow, and you win. It might not be pretty, dominant cricket, but you still win the game. It's day 3 ffs! Why the rush? Commit to being there this time tomorrow and you win the game in the process.
Spot on mate, had no problems with Warner playing his shots because thats how he plays. But the rest just need to dig in and bat around him.
 

Pete Cash

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Psychologically the twilight session is a part of it too. The bats want to score quickly because they believe its going to get a lot harder to bat in the evening session
 

Bazal

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Cricket administrators prefer it. If smith batted like a snail and got undone by a good one on say....30 and we lost he would be torn to pieces by the press for batting too slowly.

Like if we go back to the bad old days of lawry and boycott those types of players hurt cricket. Especially after the dashing players of the 30s and 40s. I think players are encouraged to attack

Well then the skipper and coach should be telling the administrators and the press to firmly lodge their opinions somewhere deep within their sphincters, and trying to win the game no matter what style of cricket it takes. Who cares what the press say about how slowly you batted if you win the match?
 

Pete Cash

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Well then the skipper and coach should be telling the administrators and the press to firmly lodge their opinions somewhere deep within their sphincters, and trying to win the game no matter what style of cricket it takes. Who cares what the press say about how slowly you batted if you win the match?

Well it is entertainment firstly.

Look at chappell bagging out latham for batting slowly. Its hard to escape that. Batsmen get a reputation as selfish and dropped.
 

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It's not just batsmen, though, it seems to have infected the entire cricket world to a point. The commentators seem to be suffering from the same thing as the batsmen. Or they just have no confidence in them. But from the start they were saying "Australia have to win this today, this testwill be over today." Why? You bat til the dinner break tomorrow, and you win. It might not be pretty, dominant cricket, but you still win the game. It's day 3 ffs! Why the rush? Commit to being there this time tomorrow and you win the game in the process.

But the crowd want to see those big levers smash maximums
 

hineyrulz

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Well it is entertainment firstly.

Look at chappell bagging out latham for batting slowly. Its hard to escape that. Batsmen get a reputation as selfish and dropped.
It's about the best way to win the game, who gives a f**k what Chappeli thinks. Smith and Voges dropped anchor the first night and did a good job getting through that night session. It's about game awareness something our batsman struggle with these days.

Southee bowling too short here.
 

Bazal

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Well it is entertainment firstly.

Look at chappell bagging out latham for batting slowly. Its hard to escape that. Batsmen get a reputation as selfish and dropped.

No, it's not. That's exactly the problem. If you want flash and pomp, then T20 is the go. Test cricket is about winning the contest.
 

Pete Cash

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And slow batsmen hurt test cricket in eras gone by....thats a fact.

Not that i disagree that dropping anchor is good sometimes. It was good by smith and voges in our first innings. Just there is pressure to be entertaining.

Also, like i mentioned australia has the psychology of the twilight session hanging over their heads.
 

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