3rd Test: Australia v New Zealand at Adelaide on Nov 27-Dec 1, 2015

[hineyrulz]

Southee bowling rubbish.

100 needed.

 

[Bazal]

I don't think many would argue that Allan Border hurt Test cricket in this country. Or Mark Taylor (bar his massive form slump, which is a different discussion). Or Steve Waugh....they were hardly David Warner

There is a huge difference between playing tough and fighting, and just scoring slowly.

 

[hineyrulz]

And slow batsmen hurt test cricket in eras gone by....thats a fact.

Not that i disagree that dropping anchor is good sometimes. It was good by smith and voges in our first innings. Just there is pressure to be entertaining.

Also, like i mentioned australia has the psychology of the twilight session hanging over their heads.

Lawry and Boycott hurt the game??? They are considered greats of the game. The game has changed but there is nothin wrong with batting slower when the situation arises.

 

[Pete Cash]

Lawry and Boycott hurt the game??? They are considered greats of the game. The game has changed but there is nothin wrong with batting slower when the situation arises.

Boycott got dropped for batting too slowly

 

[hineyrulz]

I don't think many would argue that Allan Border hurt Test cricket in this country. Or Mark Taylor (bar his massive form slump, which is a different discussion). Or Steve Waugh....they were hardly David Warner

There is a huge difference between playing tough and fighting, and just scoring slowly.

AB could attack when needed, same as Tugga. But they knew would judge the bowling,conditions and game awareness. Something modern batsman struggle with.

 

[Bazal]

Boycott got dropped for batting too slowly

Be that as it may, we're talking about playing to the situation, not batting slowly as a rule....

 

[hineyrulz]

Boycott got dropped for batting too slowly

He also got over 8k runs in the high 40's as an opening batsman. He was a selfish merkin no doubt about anbd unloved by his teamates but he was a special case.

 

[Pete Cash]

And i agree but again the australians are unsure if this is the time to go slowly because they are worried about the third session.

 

[Twatface Magee]

We need to hurry a bit and try and get as many runs as possible before it gets dark.

 

[Pete Cash]

He also got over 8k runs in the high 40's as an opening batsman. He was a selfish merkin no doubt about anbd unloved by his teamates but he was a special case.

He should have over 10k runs and would have if he wasnt so selfish. I agree with you guys mostly but here i am not sure how australia should approach it because of the ball in twilight.

 

[Bazal]

AB could attack when needed, same as Tugga. But they knew would judge the bowling,conditions and game awareness. Something modern batsman struggle with.

Yeah that's more the point. Neither would be said to have hurt Test cricket by digging in, because they were renowned for playing to the situation. No one criticised them for it, just as I don't believe anyone would criticise a Smith or a Burns for digging in given the other knocjs they've been known to play. AB and Tugga could dominate an attack in the right circumstances, but they could fight harder than anyone when the situation demanded it. The latter is what modern batsmen seem to lack.

 

[Bazal]

He should have over 10k runs and would have if he wasnt so selfish. I agree with you guys mostly but here i am not sure how australia should approach it because of the ball in twilight.

Personally I think it's the same as any other situation in a daylight test match. Cloud cover comes over, a cool change, back on the field after rain, a new ball, a bit of humidity....the set batsmen need to dig in, trust that they have their eye in, leave anything remotely dicey alone, rotate the strike where possible and just survive. If you get a ripper, so be it.

 

[Pete Cash]

Maybe but there is a novelty about it. This has literally never happened before.

 

[hineyrulz]

Going down leg???

 

[Twatface Magee]

Stfu Slater.
Going way down leg.

 

[Bazal]

There is a novelty to it, but most of these guys have played day/night cricket before, if not all of them. They should know the drill, the only difference is the colour of their kit and the ball may behave a little differently to the white one. You're right in that I think most of the problem is mental.

 

[Pete Cash]

See under a computer umpire that would be given out but the lbw law was never meant to give that out.

 

[Pete Cash]

There is a novelty to it, but most of these guys have played day/night cricket before, if not all of them. They should know the drill, the only difference is the colour of their kit and the ball may behave a little differently to the white one. You're right in that I think most of the problem is mental.

Thats why test cricket is so great. Voges and Smith showed that if you put down the anchor its not impossible to bat through the twilight session.

Here is another one for you. The top order doesnt have a lot of faith in the middle order so that weighs on their minds too

 

[hineyrulz]

Hailing at my place lads, hope i don't lose power this test is on a knife edge.

 

[hineyrulz]

Southee has bowled rubbish this spell.