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3rd Test: Australia v South Africa at Adelaide on Nov 24-28, 2016

hineyrulz

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Well I have played the game at a decent level, unlike yourself. You do type beautifully from the comfort of your mother's basement though, your philosophy of me not knowing much about Cricket is based off of my comments when I said that they should be trying to score as opposed to blocking and for the 23rd time, I wasn't asking them to go Glenn Maxwell style and start reverse hitting for 6, I just wanted to see them looking busy trying to rotate the strike, not get bogged down, I know how the game works, I know how the good bowlers will try and get inside the head of the batsmen, find a way to get into the psyche and ultimately get them out and if you allow yourself to face 6 balls in a row, you give them that opportunity, especially on debut.

Do a survey, ask the best bowlers in the world would they rather get hit for 4 or would they rather see the bloke jog down the other end (i'm talking Test cricket, not T20, obviously in T20 they'd give them the single over a boundary), effectively causing the bowler to execute a different strategy to a completely different batter, I already know the answer. Why do you think Watson was so good in the shorter format but absolutely useless in the longer form? He could hit a boundary but he had no touch about his batting, he couldn't rotate the strike and release the pressure, bowlers had ball after ball to hit his pad and that's usually what happened, that's just 1 example for you. You with your infinite wisdom (just kidding, you've got as much wisdom as a synthetic potplant) think that not getting out is a great result and it was a great result in that situation but there's a method and a way to go about it without making yourself vulnerable, they got away with it and they played and missed a lot, both openers were missing freebies off the pads, tuck those away, get up the other end, pressure is released.

You can take the high and mighty stance that I know nothing about Cricket simply because I don't share the opinion of yourself, if it was so easy to walk out in the middle and block the ball for 6 balls an over, we'd see far more draws than we actually do, it's not easy at all because you can't take that approach, it just doesn't work. Initially you'll be okay but eventually when you're unsure about yourself, the doubt created by the bowler will sneak into your mentality and your feet won't be where they need to be, your balance won't be there, you'll nick off, perhaps get caught on the crease and get hit on the pad.. who knows, no I am not saying that draws aren't common these days purely because of what I just mentioned, obviously the conditions are a factor as well but if you walk out to bat with the sole intention of trying to survive, your wicket is imminent.

I don't know why I need to explain myself to you of all people, your reaction to a subjective view is a clear indication to me that you lack maturity, you take it personally as if I am saying that you're wrong and I am right. I am not saying that, I am saying I have a different view, a view that I believe is the right view, that doesn't make it the absolute correct view but in my opinion that's how I see it, you see it another way and that's fine by me, I don't get why you have to take pot shots all day long about something that I said, this is a forum, a forum is a place for discussion, believe it or not discussions do involve subjective views, something that you struggle to deal with, maybe you need to exclusively stick to the Parramatta forum, where subjective views will be few and far between and when someone does roll on in with a subjective view you can ask the moderator to stick that post in the troll forum.

I expect your response will be full of insults and sarcastic remarks about rotating something somewhere, i'd be shocked if it was anything to do with the game, you'd much rather personally attack someone then discuss the game, especially if there's a subjective view involved.

Over to you, whiney.
Holy crap it stays up to 3 in the morning and comes back with war and peace, really dude :)

I wasn't the one making broad statements about a young 20 year old bloke on debut and a bloke who had to go up and open because the VC was a selfish merkin . They had 12 overs to bat, under lights against an attack that had skittled us twice in under 100 overs just a week ago. As i said them getting through that 12 over period unscathed could go a long way to us winning the game. Because the way we have been batting we could of lost it in those 12 overs quite easily. If they had of continued on to bat all day yesterday still without looking to score or rotate the strike once the ball got softer and the pitch continued to flatten you would of may had a point. Renshaw got out while Uzi after scoring just 10 off 80 odd then picked up the pace and ending up scoring at a decent clip.

It's all about game situation awareness, something our batsman have lacked for a while, the last 5 overs last night they didn't look to score runs either why didn't you hope into them about that either??? Oh thats right they were just looking to get through to stumps....

Funny thing is most people i have spoke too thought it was fantastic we had a young opener who was happy to leave balls, occupy the crease and make the bowlers bowl to him in a tough situation
You are the only person who was negative about the way they went about it.........

And if you are upset at copping for making stupid statements maybe the cricket forum isn't for you???
 

Twizzle

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get in there Oozie you good thing

newbies had a mixed day but hey, we gotta persevere for now

and Wade's not a newbie, we'd be better to give the gloves to Handscomb and play another batsman
 

Sphagnum

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The talent has alway been there for khawaja. The roller coaster the selectors have had him on since his debut is nothing short of disgraceful. Good on him for showing everybody how good a really is. Could easily open the batting but is clearly the best batsman in this test team so belongs at number 3.
 
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The talent has alway been there for khawaja. The roller coaster the selectors have had him on since his debut is nothing short of disgraceful. Good on him for showing everybody how good a really is. Could easily open the batting but is clearly the best batsman in this test team so belongs at number 3.
No where near Smith yet
 

mozza91

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Warner:

Home: 12 centuries @ 58
Away: 4 centuries @ 38

Flat track bully.

Smith:

Home: 8 centuries @ 64
Away: 7 centuries @ 53

Can't deny the quality of those stats.
Don't let JJ catch you saying that about Smudger. He doesn't think Smith has the ability to crack the Otago Volts second 11.
 

Bazal

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Khawaja now averages 72 at home and 30 away.

Wow.

Slightly warped stats. He played 5 of his first 8 Tests away from Australia, in a period where he struggled to show that he was a Test quality bat home or away.

Since 2015 when he made his back after being dropped he averages 38 away in 4 matches. So he's on the improve. This knock could be the making of him as a batsman
 

T-Boon

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Khawaja now averages 72 at home and 30 away.

Wow.

That is wow.
Only thing I would say is that the way the rest of them have been batting this summer these could almost count as away runs. The conditions have not been typical flat Aussie wickets and the opposition is as good as we have seen in a long time.
He hopefully takes enough confidence out of this series to improve his numbers overseas.
 

billygilmore

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It was a great knock, I'll give it that but yet again we have an Aussie batting out of skin in a dead rubber. These knocks mean f**k all if they can't replicate it in a match where the bloody series is on the line.
 

Bazal

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It was a great knock, I'll give it that but yet again we have an Aussie batting out of skin in a dead rubber. These knocks mean f**k all if they can't replicate it in a match where the bloody series is on the line.

In fairness Khawaja is the leading run scorer for the series at the moment....it's the other blokes who have let us down
 

blaza88z

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Holy crap it stays up to 3 in the morning and comes back with war and peace, really dude :)

I wasn't the one making broad statements about a young 20 year old bloke on debut and a bloke who had to go up and open because the VC was a selfish merkin . They had 12 overs to bat, under lights against an attack that had skittled us twice in under 100 overs just a week ago. As i said them getting through that 12 over period unscathed could go a long way to us winning the game. Because the way we have been batting we could of lost it in those 12 overs quite easily. If they had of continued on to bat all day yesterday still without looking to score or rotate the strike once the ball got softer and the pitch continued to flatten you would of may had a point. Renshaw got out while Uzi after scoring just 10 off 80 odd then picked up the pace and ending up scoring at a decent clip.

It's all about game situation awareness, something our batsman have lacked for a while, the last 5 overs last night they didn't look to score runs either why didn't you hope into them about that either??? Oh thats right they were just looking to get through to stumps....

Funny thing is most people i have spoke too thought it was fantastic we had a young opener who was happy to leave balls, occupy the crease and make the bowlers bowl to him in a tough situation
You are the only person who was negative about the way they went about it.........

And if you are upset at copping for making stupid statements maybe the cricket forum isn't for you???

They rolled us in Hobart, sure. That pitch was greener than your local bowls club as well, not an excuse but it's not like they were playing on a road and we got out because of our inability to leave or defend, I said before that this South African bowling attack is the best we've seen on our shores for some time, we've had quality bowlers play against us in recent years but not to the point where there's not really any sort of a reprieve, Abbott and Philander come off and you've got Rabada, Morne Morkel can't even get a game and he's been a very good bowler in his own right for a long time. They deserve a lot of credit.

I hate that our team only reacts after losing games in regards to player changes, Handscomb looked a million times better than anyone else in our middle has last night yet he never even got a look in, the series is over we're playing for pride, what are they playing for? So they can say they 3-0'd us on our own shores, whilst I am sure that would be humiliating for us, it's not like we're playing against England.

I'll re-iterate what I said, seems you're still struggling with the concept as you labelled it a "broad" statement. Rotate the strike, relieve yourself of the pressure, don't give the opposition an opportunity to bowl ball after ball at you. I don't except you to tell me i'm right, in fact I know you won't but at the same time
the fact you said if Khawaja didn't try to pickup the scoring rate once the pitch flattened out I "may have" had a point? may have? I am telling you right now, this is an exclusive so don't go around spreading the word that if Khawaja didn't try and improve the scoring this entire forum would be ripping and tearing, let's keep that on the down low though, Khawaja's innings is full of merit, we've been dieing out for a 3rd batsmen to start delivering and I say 3rd because whilst Warner does get out alot for not many runs, he has also scored us alot of runs at the top of the order, just look back to the first test, we were in a commanding position until he got out on 90 something, then Smith got a dodgy LBW decision against him and the rest is history.
 

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