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3rd Test: Australia v South Africa at Perth Nov 30-Dec 4, 2012

Horrie Is God

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lol..

Nah i just reckon they've all done enough this series or had enough brownie points) to keep their places..

Change for changes sake isn't my cup of tea..

Also it's not like we're 1 or 2 nil down..We've dominated this series without being able to deliver the killer blow..
 

TheParraboy

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Lets hope Notch is only around for the Perth test (preferably 13th man)

Ryan Harris should be back for the SL series, well for at least one or two test matchs. Id like to see him make it to Enlgand super fit. Reckon he wouild kill the poms
 

Horrie Is God

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More Victorians...Hastings FFS! Do you not remember pie McKay's test debut:lol:

I like Hastings..He is a hustler..

Plus he wants to bowl into the wind..

Plus he can hold a bat..

Plus he's killing it in Shield Cricket..

Yep he's a Victorian but he was born in Penrith..

Anything else i can help you with??..;-)
 

AlwaysGreen

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Lyon must play. The play 4 seamers in Perth theory is a myth, unless your attack is Marshall, Holding, Garner, Walsh.
 

Horrie Is God

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HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!!!!!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/hes-back-mitchell-johnson-to-make-test-comeback-in-perth/story-e6frey50-1226526068264

He's back: Mitchell Johnson to make Test comeback in Perth..

Malcolm Conn
News Limited Network
November 29, 201212:00AM

MITCHELL Johnson will make his unexpected return to Test cricket tomorrow a year after he looked finished as Australia attempts its last chance to wrestle the world Test crown from South Africa.

And with Mitchell Starc also certain to play the third Test in Perth, it will be the first time Australia has chosen two left-arm pacemen in the same side since Johnson and Doug Bollinger in India more than two years ago.

Australia will choose four fast bowlers for a third successive Perth Test after routing England and India during the past two seasons with an all pace attack.

Just which four fast bowlers make up the attack will depend on how Peter Siddle and Ben Hilfenhaus train today after their marathon bowling stints during the drawn second Test in Adelaide.

It is likely that only one of them will play, with Josh Hazlewood expected to make his Test debut ahead of John Hastings.

Johnson has not played a Test since breaking down with a serious foot injury in Johannesburg a little over 12 months ago but his form had been so poor he was in line to be dropped anyway.

He has an outstanding record at the WACA Ground, claiming 30 wickets in just four Tests at an average of only 18, including match figures of 9-82 during his last Test there, against England, two years ago.

However in the seven Tests following that match before he broke down Johnson managed just 15 wickets at an average of 58.

Vice-captain Shane Watson, who will play his first Test this series following a calf strain, was impressed with Johnson’s bowling in the nets yesterday.

“Mitch bowled well again with the odd one swinging in, which makes him very difficult to face,” Watson said. “The ball coming back in creates a big challenge.”

Watson also believes Hazlewood will be a handful on the WACA wicket if he is given an opportunity.

“He’s a tall guy and gets a lot of bounce,” said Watson. “At the WACA there is always a bit of bounce anyway but I’m sure he’ll get a fair bit more bounce than any of the other bowlers we’ve got.”

After being 12th man for the previous two Tests Starc is hopeful the same wicket he played on during the Perth Test last year is rolled out again. India was thrashed in little more than two days.

“For me it’s obviously a nice place to come and bowl,” he said. “You get that extra bit of pace and bounce compared to the SCG, where I’ve played.

“There’s a little it in it for the bowlers but last year was a pretty good cricket wicket, I reckon.

“Hopefully if I get the chance to come out here again I’ll bowl similar to what I did last time.”

Hilfenhaus not only has fitness issues to overcome but his inability to take important South African wickets is a growing concern.

He has claimed 2-205 off 94 overs against South Africa’s top seven batsmen and 4-6 from just seven overs against the tail.

Hilfenhaus offers Clarke an element of control and he is good for the over rate but his series average of 35.5 per wicket is misleading.
 

Earl

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I read that Watson bowled the equivalent of a 6 over spell in the Adelaide nets on Tuesday. Apprarantly that means he's in good Test form lol

According to stories today Mitch Johnson, Mitch Starc, Josh Hazelwood and either Ben Hilfenhaus or Peter Siddle will make up our attack.

In the same newspaper Michael Clarke claims that the Perth Test is the Grand Final.

Not sure how many teams go into a grand final with 75% of their bowling attack not having played a game all season.
 

Twizzle

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not sure how the media would know but its laughable if Notch gets a run
 
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If Johnson gets a run in one of the most important test matches in years that is just pathetic.

He shouldnt be playing any test match. But a decider for the no.1 spot ?!
 

unbreaK

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So it's pretty much confirmed that we're using

Mitchell Johnson
Mitchell Starc
Josh Hazlewood
Peter Siddle / Ben Hilfenhaus

Wtf.. Lyon has played really well the first 2 games, even if it's the WACA, I think he deserves a spot..
 

Red&BlackBear

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Double edge sword too... It'd be nice if Mitch performs and we get a good result but if he does it could mean he'll be part of the squad for awhile...
 

Didgi

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Speaking of, get Dougy Bollinger back. A better option than the stray missile at least.
 

Twizzle

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Not sure about the 4 prong thing, we got Watson as well which makes it 5 prong.

I'd be playing Lyon or with 3 quicks and Watson.
 

Hallatia

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'possible' suggests that they actually have no idea what the teams' make ups will be apart from the other things they have said
Survival of the fittest in the west
Daniel Brettig
November 29, 2012

Match Facts
November 30-December 4, WACA ground
Start time 10:30 (02:30 GMT)

Big Picture
Spent. Exhausted. Drained. Cooked. Though most commonly applied to Peter Siddle, these words were also accurate enough descriptions of players on both sides at the end of an epic draw in Adelaide. A mere three days later Australia and South Africa are at it again, on a ground and a pitch likely to offer up a result after two stalemates in the first two Tests. Australia's captain Michael Clarke has already labelled the match a 'grand final', while Dale Steyn spoke for the tourists when he conveyed their desire not to slink away from Australia with the No. 1 ranking still in their possession via the back-door of three draws.

Australia's challenge appears the most pronounced. Having thrown all they possibly could at South Africa across the first two Tests they have nothing to show for it but injuries and a creeping fatigue across most of the squad. This means the bowling attack that has strived so hard in Brisbane and Adelaide will have a decidedly different look at the WACA ground. Mitchell Johnson and Mitchell Starc can both be expected to play, while only one of Siddle and Ben Hilfenhaus seem likely to join them in the middle. Shane Watson's return from a calf problem is welcome, but it remains to be seen how well grooved he is for a Test match having played only one first-class fixture - in which he was injured - since April. Then of course there is the matter of Ricky Ponting's cloudy future. Clarke has the job ahead of him to keep his team focused and efficient despite their trials.

South Africa, meanwhile, can style themselves as the boxer who has sat on the ropes and allowed their opponent to punch himself out before launching a definitive counter in the final round. While they lack the depth of bowling reinforcements Australia may call on, the return of Vernon Philander from a back niggle and the extra day and a half of rest afforded by Faf du Plessis' magnificent rearguard in Adelaide suggest this will be a fresh enough attack to zing the ball around in Perth. Jacques Kallis remains an outside chance of playing as a batsman, having done so well under considerable duress in the second Test. A more accomplished and seasoned side entering this series, the tourists will hope to show their somewhat flat displays up to this point are not a true reflection of their worth.

Form guide
(Most recent first)
Australia DDWDW
South Africa DDWDW

In the spotlight
One of the more pointed reactions to Ricky Ponting's poor Adeliade Test match was the posting of a Youtube video overlaying his first innings dismissal to Jacques Kallis across a Ponting endorsement for Swiss vitamins. No-one was more troubled by the sight of Ponting being bowled twice in the match than the man himself, and he has discussed his future with the selectors ahead of the Perth Test. Everyone around the Australian team dearly wants Ponting to find the runs that will guarantee him a spot in the Ashes next year, but all admit that the window for him to find them is closing fast. The scene of Ponting's first Test match, against Sri Lanka in 1995, may also be the setting for his last.

Operating at something slightly less than top gear for most of the first two Tests, Dale Steyn has so far endured one of the leanest series of his compelling career. Perth will provide an answer to whether Australia have blunted him effectively or whether Steyn has been saving his silver bullets for the series decider. The left-handers Ed Cowan, David Warner and Michael Hussey have helped curb Steyn's effectiveness, and the return of Watson to the top three may actually encourage the fast man's outswinger. In Steyn's own opinion his greatest asset is durability, and he has the chance to prove it by bowling with greater vim in Perth than anyone else to have slogged through the whole of the series.

Team news
Shane Watson is guaranteed to return and Mitchell Johnson is also expected to be included for his first Test in a year. Peter Siddle is pressing hard to be included and Nathan Lyon may carry the drinks.

Australia (possible) 1 Ed Cowan, 2 David Warner, 3 Shane Watson, 4 Ricky Ponting, 5 Michael Clarke (capt), 6 Michael Hussey, 7 Matthew Wade (wk), 8 Mitchell Johnson, 9 Peter Siddle, 10 Mitchell Starc, 11 Josh Hazlewood.

Faf du Plessis may earn a promotion in the batting order after his Adelaide heroics, while Ryan McLaren's allround skills may be utilised if Jacques Kallis is not fit. Vernon Philander will return after a back complaint kept him out of Adelaide.

South Africa (possible) 1 Graeme Smith (capt), 2 Alviro Petersen, 3 Hashim Amla, 4 Faf du Plessis, 5 AB de Villiers (wk), 6 Jacques Rudolph, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Vernon Philander, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Rory Kleinveldt, 11 Morne Morkel.

Pitch and conditions
This year's WACA pitch is expected to offer plenty of pace and bounce for the fast bowlers, but a little less seam movement than was available for last summer's three-day affair between Australia and India. The weather forecast is for cool temperatures and the odd shower.

Stats and trivia
A victory for Australia would hand them the ICC's No. 1 ranking in Tests, a position they last held in 2009. South Africa will retain top spot with a draw
AB de Villiers is seven runs short of surpassing his coach Gary Kirsten's tally against Australia, his 1134 runs in 10th place on the list of run-scorers in Tests between the two countries
Ricky Ponting's Test match average at the WACA - 41.43 - is his lowest among all of Australia's major grounds

Quotes
"We played our heart out during the first two Tests. Now we have an opportunity to claim a series against the No. 1 team in the world with a winner-takes-all encounter. We've got nothing to lose. We win this Test and we become the No. 1-ranked team in the world."
Michael Clarke

"We want to win the series. We didn't come down to Australia to draw. We've played below what we are capable of but Australia have thrown everything they can at us and they still haven't beaten us. If we can play to what our potential is, I think we will go home 1-nil."
Dale Steyn
Sauce
 

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