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Alex McKinnon possibly Quadriplegic - Mclean guilty of dangerous throw - 7 weeks

How many weeks?

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Spot On

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Given Smith's reaction has apparently been so hurtful, I would've imagined the issue would've been raised earlier.

The fact it wasn't suggests to me that it wasn't as big a deal as is now being made out, because he was dealing with the new life he had been forced into (which had nothing to do with Smith)

You've never prioritised issues you deal with??? What do you think would have been highest on McKinnon's to do list after the tackle?
 

madunit

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You've never prioritised issues you deal with??? What do you think would have been highest on McKinnon's to do list after the tackle?

Obviously he should've yelled at Cameron Smith demanding an apology before the medic's attended to him.
 

Fufu Andronez

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This media hype bullshit about shaming Cameron Smith is having the exact effect that the media want. More people talking about it so more people watch the interview tonight.

Is there any reference to the millions raised for him, the job for life, the concern shown by everyone in the game which includes Smith and the Storm, with the rise for Alex round etc.

This has nothing to do with Cameron Smith, this interview should be Alex and his recovery and the way that he is an inspiration to people in similar positions, not about attaching a big name to the headline to generate controversy. That's my opinion anyway, and it's in no way minimising what Alex has gone through it just seems that turning it into a soap opera is taking away from the real story which is his recovery.
 
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--Storm--

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The dickheads trying to sell his book, there always has to be a controversial part to advertise it in the lead up to the release.

I won't be buying it.
 
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I bought this up a year ago - http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=436480&page=7

If Alex doesn't duck his head, he was going face first into the dirt. It was a natural reaction to an ILLEGAL act. Imagine your driving along and someone pulls up beside you and points a gun at your car, you swerve, go off road and die and the guy who waved the gun at you claims if you didn't swerve you wouldn't have died. Smith is a scum bag, QLD like to talk about Gallen but Smith is 10x worse.
 

LESStar58

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Is his book self-published? I can't seem to see any reference to a major publisher backing him, which is strange. This is the type of book they usually jump at and sells like hot-cakes.

I'm in book retailing and have not heard about this either. Must still be a while off.
 

Desert Qlder

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Hypocrisy abounds through all of this.

It is interesting to note that one of McKinnon’s “close friends” is Beau Scott. This is a player who actively bent the neck of a ball carrier in an effort to drive his head into the ground in a game earlier this year. Supported and celebrated by Knights fans, he did this act while wearing a ‘Rise For Alex’ jersey and was lauded as a hard man.

Cameron Smith may have acted improperly (hindsight can be a wonderful thing for critics) during the moments after the tackle, but his is a lesser charge than actively trying to injure a player. Which was not the intention of McKinnon’s tacklers either.

Until Knights fans can resolve this inconsistency then they will find no sympathy from me.

This particular affair has the strong whiff of a media beat up. McKinnon does not strike me a particularly vindictive character and would carry a degree of circumspection. No doubt his family is upset at the events surrounding the incident and that must be respected. Maybe Smith could offer something to them but that for behind closed doors.

It is getting into very tasteless territory when critics of Smith would seek to use this tragedy to their advantage, and fall in line behind the vultures of the media.
 

madunit

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some Knights players and fans are a bit hypocritical.

Last year a cheap high shot on Liam Fulton by Newcastle's David Fa'alogo forced Fulton to retire.

I wonder if Gidley has apologised to Liam yet?
 

Maximus

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It is getting into very tasteless territory when critics of Smith would seek to use this tragedy to their advantage, and fall in line behind the vultures of the media.

But you using it to attack Knights fans and Beau Scott isn't tasteless?

Hypocrisy abounds through all of this.

Yep and you are the biggest hypocrite of all.
 

macavity

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LOL

we are hypocritical for calling the biggest grub in the game, who plays for the grubbiest club and grubbiest coach... a grub.

Good one.
 

insert.pause

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You can't say Smith may have acted poorly in failing to respect the seriousness of the situation, yet also think Alex has no right to feel aggrieved by his behaviour, he has every right, it's got nothing to do with some media beat up or origin agenda, it's the way he feels.
 

LESStar58

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Hypocrisy abounds through all of this.

It is interesting to note that one of McKinnon?s ?close friends? is Beau Scott. This is a player who actively bent the neck of a ball carrier in an effort to drive his head into the ground in a game earlier this year. Supported and celebrated by Knights fans, he did this act while wearing a ?Rise For Alex? jersey and was lauded as a hard man.

Cameron Smith may have acted improperly (hindsight can be a wonderful thing for critics) during the moments after the tackle, but his is a lesser charge than actively trying to injure a player. Which was not the intention of McKinnon?s tacklers either.

Until Knights fans can resolve this inconsistency then they will find no sympathy from me.

This particular affair has the strong whiff of a media beat up. McKinnon does not strike me a particularly vindictive character and would carry a degree of circumspection. No doubt his family is upset at the events surrounding the incident and that must be respected. Maybe Smith could offer something to them but that for behind closed doors.

It is getting into very tasteless territory when critics of Smith would seek to use this tragedy to their advantage, and fall in line behind the vultures of the media.

well said, mate. It's amazing how the media can pick and choose who they wish to call out and openly criticise for their own gain.
 

LESStar58

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some Knights players and fans are a bit hypocritical.

Last year a cheap high shot on Liam Fulton by Newcastle's David Fa'alogo forced Fulton to retire.

I wonder if Gidley has apologised to Liam yet?

I'm sure McKinnon and BJ Leilua or Gidley didn't feel compelled to apologise to McLean in the aftermath of a head clash breaking Jordans jaw in the 2013 finals.

sure, it was an accident which lead to a knock on against Melbourne but McKinnon was getting around high fiving his team mates and Leilua the amateur photographer was standing over Jordan and hurling abuse at him.
 

Desert Qlder

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LOL

we are hypocritical for calling the biggest grub in the game, who plays for the grubbiest club and grubbiest coach... a grub.

Good one.

Yes, when you defend and encourage Scott's actions I'm afraid. You can't have it both ways.

Time for a bit of maturity on this incident, even on internet forums.

It is evident a few have never dealt with real tragedy.
 

Noname36

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Hypocrisy abounds through all of this.

It is interesting to note that one of McKinnon’s “close friends” is Beau Scott. This is a player who actively bent the neck of a ball carrier in an effort to drive his head into the ground in a game earlier this year. Supported and celebrated by Knights fans, he did this act while wearing a ‘Rise For Alex’ jersey and was lauded as a hard man.

Cameron Smith may have acted improperly (hindsight can be a wonderful thing for critics) during the moments after the tackle, but his is a lesser charge than actively trying to injure a player. Which was not the intention of McKinnon’s tacklers either.

Until Knights fans can resolve this inconsistency then they will find no sympathy from me.

This particular affair has the strong whiff of a media beat up. McKinnon does not strike me a particularly vindictive character and would carry a degree of circumspection. No doubt his family is upset at the events surrounding the incident and that must be respected. Maybe Smith could offer something to them but that for behind closed doors.

It is getting into very tasteless territory when critics of Smith would seek to use this tragedy to their advantage, and fall in line behind the vultures of the media.

Sad to see the Qld education system has failed its students so badly on reading comprehension.

Nobody, including Alex, has tried to shame Jordan or anyone involved in the tackle.

The issue was with Cameron Smith's behaviour after it happened.

Any comparisons to Scott's tackles on Thurston are irrelevant and frankly strange when Alex (or Knights fans for that matter) has said nothing of ill here about the tackle itself or the blokes involved in it.

The issue was Smith's behaviour afterwards and that has always been the issue. It showed a complete lack of sportsmanship and lack of care/respect for another player's well-being.
 
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