Alex McKinnon possibly Quadriplegic - Mclean guilty of dangerous throw - 7 weeks

[Twatface Magee]

I wonder if at the very least since the interview Smith has got McKinnon's mobile number and sent him an apology.

 

[DiegoNT]

Even If Hoffman had got into his ear, Smith should of had the leadership to ignore it, and to think maybe there's more important things to do than argue a penalty in this situation, even if it was to wait until halftime and have a quick private chat to the refs in the tunnel.
You also can't use the excuse that it was in the heat of the moment, he had a full 10 minutes to weigh up his options in that situation

Disagree 100% but that's always going to be the case on that point, with both sides.

I don't know what this is, it's nothing to do with what I was referring to.

I'm not worried about anything.

My point is that when someone is obviously seriously injured, arguing about a penalty isn't the most important thing to do at that moment- which you 100% disagree with?
So arguing over a penalty is the most important thing to do in that situation?

 

[Shorty]

There you have it.

Some will no doubt still complain that he could have phoned him, but if you are being turned away constantly the likely, rational opinion you are going to form is that "he doesn't want to speak with me." In that scenario, attempting to make contact despite those wishes would be the wrong thing to do.

Was there any doubt? It's just a choice few that are desperately trying to cling to the story.

 

[DiegoNT]

Your demonising is very transparent.

The demonising off Alex is even more sickening

 

[carcharias]

well if Smith had kept his mouth shut (like most decent people) 60 mins wouldn't have been able to replay what he said on Live TV into a microphone.

I also I find it a little hypocritical that people in here are crying foul over 60 minutes being able to broadcast one opinion yet... they are only too happy to post an article from another source with a different opinion and claim it as some sort of fact.

 

[Canard]

My point is that when someone is obviously seriously injured, arguing about a penalty isn't the most important thing to do at that moment- which you 100% disagree with?
So arguing over a penalty is the most important thing to do in that situation?

No it's not the most important thing.

The demonsing off Alex is even more sickening

Those people are idiots

well if Smith had kept his mouth shut (like most decent people) 60 mins wouldn't have been able to replay what he said on Live TV into a microphone.

I also I find it a little hypocritical that people in here are crying foul over 60 minutes being able to broadcast one opinion yet... they are only too happy to post an article from another source with a different opinion and claim it as some sort of fact.

Those articles are trying to provide some balance to the juggernaut that is primetime TV.

 

[Slammin]

And the blame game continues. It was a nothing tackle, a freak accident. Cam Smith was right though, if he doesn't duck his head that is no penalty and game continues.

 

[bottle]

60 mins has apparently offered Smith an opportunity to respond. He's declined.
It's being reported that in protest to the way in which they have represented the issue he will boycott the station by refusing to do interviews. This will include tomorrow night's SoO game.

 

[typicalfan]

So you think that Cameron Smith tried to contact him and Alex's dad told him to piss off?

Seems unlikely given even the Storm's little media release to defend their honorable captain made no mention of such things.

Yeah because Smith has Alex McKinnons old mans number......

 

[redvscotty]

Look, Cammy braved the celery cap scandal against all odds and did nothing wrong then, so why should we believe anyone other than him in this scenario?

I have a feeling he'll come under massive scrutiny a third time in his career somehow.

 

[betcats]

60 mins has apparently offered Smith an opportunity to respond. He's declined.
It's being reported that in protest to the way in which they have represented the issue he will boycott the station by refusing to do interviews. This will include tomorrow night's SoO game.

Wow good work Cam you are the real victim here. How dare channel 9 let that quadriplegic and his family express their opinions!

 

[redvscotty]

And the blame game continues. It was a nothing tackle, a freak accident. Cam Smith was right though, if he doesn't duck his head that is no penalty and game continues.

Rubbish. Clearly above the horizontal.

 

[Canard]

Look at the sensationalist post that 60 mins posted on Twitter just moments ago. Purely Exploitation.

 

[souths_pride]

How many of those others who get stretchered off are also heard screaming that they can't breathe or feel their legs? No he may not have known that McKinnon was paralysed, but it was still obvious the injury was serious. Bennett and Slater have both said they knew it was bad. Chambers said he had to walk away and couldn't watch what was happening. Clydesdale backed away from the situation as fast as possible. No they may not have known he was paralysed, but they knew something was seriously wrong.

Think back to when Wolfman broke his neck and Slater cradled him until help arrived. Slater had no way of knowing how bad it was, but his first thought was helping Wolfman.



He wore a jersey with a different number for 1 game, and it was while numerous other players did the same thing. Big deal. The NRL likely went and asked a whole bunch of high profile players to do it, and it's not like he could have said no.



That says more about you and others than it does him. The fact that people stop supporting him purely because he was upset by Smith's comments is disgusting.

I would be ashamed of myself if I ever felt my state/team loyalties was more important than supporting someone who may never walk again.

The thing that you and Alex need to accept is that Cameron Smith nor anyone else didn't know the severity of the injury. Cameron Smith was just defending him team mate which he is perfectly entitled to do; any other captain in the NRL would have done exactly the same thing. What is Cameron Smith supposed to say "Yes my team mate was totally at fault for a tackle that was never illegal and incident which he didn't contribute to! Please penalize my team and suspend Jordan for 7 matches." We also do not have the right to judge players based on the severity of the injuries they suffer and whether or not they come off screaming on a stretcher; the severity of the injury is something for the medical people to diagnose.

You seem to allude to the argument that Cameron Smith should have done more. I feel it necessary to point out that Cameron Smith nor any of the other players on the field are medical professionals. Just because he didn't try to administer first aid of help Alex McKinnon doesn't mean he doesn't care about his welfare. Like I said in my post before, if you look at the footage of the incident, Cameron Smith looks just as worried as anyone else on the field!

 

[souths_pride]

Rubbish. Clearly above the horizontal.

Could you please show us screenshots of the Josh Jackson tackle from a few weeks ago? Also, the Tyrone Peachey spear tackle after the whistle from earlier this season in the game against the Broncos. Or how about the Krisnan Inu one on Greg Inglis from a few years ago. Each of those tackles are far worse than that one. Could you also please show us screenshots of the next few frames which show McKinnon tucking his head in and diving over?

 

[DiegoNT]

The thing that you and Alex need to accept is that Cameron Smith nor anyone else didn't know the severity of the injury. Cameron Smith was just defending him team mate which he is perfectly entitled to do; any other captain in the NRL would have done exactly the same thing. What is Cameron Smith supposed to say "Yes my team mate was totally at fault for a tackle that was never illegal and incident which he didn't contribute to! Please penalize my team and suspend Jordan for 7 matches." We also do not have the right to judge players based on the severity of the injuries they suffer and whether or not they come off screaming on a stretcher; the severity of the injury is something for the medical people to diagnose.

You seem to allude to the argument that Cameron Smith should have done more. I feel it necessary to point out that Cameron Smith nor any of the other players on the field are medical professionals. Just because he didn't try to administer first aid of help Alex McKinnon doesn't mean he doesn't care about his welfare. Like I said in my post before, if you look at the footage of the incident, Cameron Smith looks just as worried as anyone else on the field!

You say it yourself, smith looks just as worried as everyone else. It's obviously a serious situation. While he can talk to referees about a penalty, its not actually mandatory. He could just as easily said nothing. And when a guy has been tended to on the ground by both sets of doctors for 10 minutes, this is a situation where maybe you don't argue the penalty, and maybe discuss it later.

 

[betcats]

The thing that you and Alex need to accept is that Cameron Smith nor anyone else didn't know the severity of the injury. Cameron Smith was just defending him team mate which he is perfectly entitled to do; any other captain in the NRL would have done exactly the same thing. What is Cameron Smith supposed to say "Yes my team mate was totally at fault for a tackle that was never illegal and incident which he didn't contribute to! Please penalize my team and suspend Jordan for 7 matches." We also do not have the right to judge players based on the severity of the injuries they suffer and whether or not they come off screaming on a stretcher; the severity of the injury is something for the medical people to diagnose.

You seem to allude to the argument that Cameron Smith should have done more. I feel it necessary to point out that Cameron Smith nor any of the other players on the field are medical professionals. Just because he didn't try to administer first aid of help Alex McKinnon doesn't mean he doesn't care about his welfare. Like I said in my post before, if you look at the footage of the incident, Cameron Smith looks just as worried as anyone else on the field!

It was illegal you muppet you cant just ignore or change the rules to make your argument sound better. Its not a matter of opinion but fact that it was an illegal tackle.

 

[carcharias]

The thing that you and Alex need to accept is that Cameron Smith nor anyone else didn't know the severity of the injury. Cameron Smith was just defending him team mate which he is perfectly entitled to do; any other captain in the NRL would have done exactly the same thing. What is Cameron Smith supposed to say "Yes my team mate was totally at fault for a tackle that was never illegal and incident which he didn't contribute to! Please penalize my team and suspend Jordan for 7 matches." We also do not have the right to judge players based on the severity of the injuries they suffer and whether or not they come off screaming on a stretcher; the severity of the injury is something for the medical people to diagnose.

You seem to allude to the argument that Cameron Smith should have done more. I feel it necessary to point out that Cameron Smith nor any of the other players on the field are medical professionals. Just because he didn't try to administer first aid of help Alex McKinnon doesn't mean he doesn't care about his welfare. Like I said in my post before, if you look at the footage of the incident, Cameron Smith looks just as worried as anyone else on the field!

1) bullshit - Alex f**king knew . He was the guy on the ground that was freaking out because he couldn't move. Most smart people who were watching also knew what was going on. The rest who didn't are either stupid or just flat out liars.

2) Bullshit - I disagree every other captain would have done the same.
In fact I say that only C Smith would have still carried on well after it was clearly evident the bloke was seriously injured.

3) so worried he was whinging about a the penalty.

well done that was complete horse shit from start to finish there.

 

[souths_pride]

It was illegal you muppet you cant just ignore or change the rules to make your argument sound better. Its not a matter of opinion but fact that it was an illegal tackle.

It was an 'illegal' tackle because he tucked his head and rolled over. I guarantee you that if McKinnon does not tuck his head and roll over, then this whole incident doesn't happen. Watch the tackle again if you need to...Jordan McClean does not drive McKinnon's head into the ground!

 

[redvscotty]

Could you please show us screenshots of the Josh Jackson tackle from a few weeks ago? Also, the Tyrone Peachey spear tackle after the whistle from earlier this season in the game against the Broncos. Or how about the Krisnan Inu one on Greg Inglis from a few years ago. Each of those tackles are far worse than that one. Could you also please show us screenshots of the next few frames which show McKinnon tucking his head in and diving over?

Everything you've mentioned is completely irrelevant.