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AMNRL/USARL what if??

IowaRL

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Steve,

I'm working in Iowa to get the player base for a top tier team one day, but for now we have the Great Plains League, which we hope will be a similar league to the Jacksonville feeder league and give us the chance to grow into a top level area.
 

100%green

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If the USARL and AMNRL merge would there be any possibility of having a US/Canadian League? I know there are costs involved but would a conference style comp be beneficial to both countries?
 

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If RL ever made it big in the US, that's more than likely the model that would be used- US and Canadian teams playing together in the same comp, split into conferences that make geographical sense.
 

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Steve Mascord - Rival bodies still at war in USA
 

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Soon their won't be much to be at war with realistically.

The USARL needs to be make direct appeal to the directors of the RLIF to take over the recognition as the governing body with RLIF making certain stipulations as to governance/inclusion etc.

The simple reality is that outside of the World Cup itself which had some dubious decisions the AMNRL was essentially a basket case this year. RL could easily to up a couple notches in the USA if it got off the ground in the West and Mid West. That will take some help from outside most likely.

Additionally, any movement must include the Hawaii RL at least being some how connected under the body even if they are functionally separate in day to day administration (and some pacific representation)
 

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These situations highlight the need for a fulltime International governing body. We have 3 nations now that have seperate bodies which are the US, Italy and to a much smaller extent Thailand. I really think the RLIF pay too many favours for some governing bodies over what's in the best interests for the game. How the AMNRL has been able to carry on over the years with the lack of transparency, the selling out to Grand Prix etc without any castigation from the RLIF is mind-boggling.

Is William Tatham and his cronies still on the board of the AMNRL? It's quite ironic that they are in the media game but yet we heard nothing on their website even though they were competing in the World Cup. Is must be mightily frustrating for some who are involved in the game in the US with the mess that has been created.

It's still got me bewildered as to why the AMNRL did not want to become affilliated with the RLEF, does anyone know the reasoning behind this?
 

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These situations highlight the need for a fulltime International governing body. We have 3 nations now that have seperate bodies which are the US, Italy and to a much smaller extent Thailand. I really think the RLIF pay too many favours for some governing bodies over what's in the best interests for the game. How the AMNRL has been able to carry on over the years with the lack of transparency, the selling out to Grand Prix etc without any castigation from the RLIF is mind-boggling.

Is William Tatham and his cronies still on the board of the AMNRL? It's quite ironic that they are in the media game but yet we heard nothing on their website even though they were competing in the World Cup. Is must be mightily frustrating for some who are involved in the game in the US with the mess that has been created.

It's still got me bewildered as to why the AMNRL did not want to become affilliated with the RLEF, does anyone know the reasoning behind this?

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Because RLIF were encouraging both American bodies to unite because Grand Prix had "big money involved" - fact

Also another question to add what was done with the money he did send the AMNRL?
Since an AMNRL official made a public comment along the lines of "(Tatham) you promised us everything and gave us nothing. Now all you have is some logos and a website, we have your money"
 

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Because RLIF were encouraging both American bodies to unite because Grand Prix had "big money involved" - fact

Also another question to add what was done with the money he did send the AMNRL?
Since an AMNRL official made a public comment along the lines of "(Tatham) you promised us everything and gave us nothing. Now all you have is some logos and a website, we have your money"

Reference for that quote?
 

joshreading

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My question is more to do with emerging clubs in other areas of the Country. The USARL seem very focused on their immediate competition (which is fair logistically)

They have made a statement in their press release about 'unification' (more like you can come to us now) that indicates they will look at National Expansion later.

What of the mid-west? Utah? California Hawaii?

Would they come under the USARL? (as a governing body) OR would the USARL essentially be the top division and a new Governing Council be created for the whole sport that includes reps of the 'regions'/Youth etc. Groups such as the AYRLA should have a seat at the table of the governing body.

I for one think a governing body should NOT be simply the reps of the Top Division Clubs. It must be a 'whole game' focus.

There are actually a fair few groups launching clubs around the USA.

It seems to me that the option of creating a new Governing Body that includes reps from regions/conferences/youth is needed.
 
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^ Also AMNRL clubs that might not meet the USARL entry requirements. Which I imagine would be all of them apart from the Knights, Wildcats and possibly Bulls (little info available on their current status).
 

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What are their requirements EH?
No idea, but I think most of the other AMNRL clubs forfeited matches last year which was originally one of the main concerns of the USARL? Maybe I'm wrong, TBH it's pretty difficult to find information from either side these days and I'm really not too interested either way as long as the problems with the national team are resolved.
 

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