Anthony Griffin

[Panther_Daz]

Old school manger? Control freak and hierarchical? Well, he has had three years and delivered reasonable results but we do have some limitations in our game. To me, it has always been difficult to get a proper handle on how we can go because there has been a revolving door of halves. How good could we be if the spine was consistent for a season?

If Gus is frustrated, he must be seeing more in the day to day coaching that is a cause for concern, the results have been quite reasonable all things considered. It is good that Gus expects more, even when we have made the semi's three years in a row.

Gus thinks we should be going a lot better than what we are. He loves our playing roster. He believes they aren't playing to their potential, despite back to back to back finals appearances.

 

[umina panther]

Old school manger? Control freak and hierarchical? Well, he has had three years and delivered reasonable results but we do have some limitations in our game. To me, it has always been difficult to get a proper handle on how we can go because there has been a revolving door of halves. How good could we be if the spine was consistent for a season?

If Gus is frustrated, he must be seeing more in the day to day coaching that is a cause for concern, the results have been quite reasonable all things considered. It is good that Gus expects more, even when we have made the semi's three years in a row.

Pomoz the squad is pretty stacked mate. we should be playing much better football

 

[mxlegend99]

"When talent takes over, they're fun to watch"

That post says exactly what we said. He's trying to tip toe around blaming the coaching staff. But it's still pretty clear.

Gus seems to agree with the fans. So maybe that stops the arguments on those trying to make out as though the coschi

 

[Pomoz]

I will say this, Gus is not helping making comments on twitter. It creates media speculation and undermines the coach. Its not very good leadership by Gus.

That said, and Mx, bet cats and Umina will be getting excited at the thought, for him to write that tells me that Hook is gone. He wouldn't say those things if he was going to stay and had Gus's support. He is usually effusive in praising his staff.

 

[mxlegend99]

Pomoz the squad is pretty stacked mate. we should be playing much better football

Yep. Our backline was full strength aside from fullback.

Peachey is our 5th fullback. But was chosen ahead of DWZ and Whare.

This was our best 1 to 7 since the start of the season. We all wanted Katoa in for Wallace. We all wanted May in. Kikau. CHN. Yeo. Merrin. Tamou. Etc. Our pack is stacked.

The issue is the form of fit players. Our 3 worst today were our 3 highest paid and most experienced players.

 

[Panther_Daz]

Last year and the year before Gus used to always congratulate coach Griffin and the staff. He doesn't do that much anymore?

 

[jane the pain]

You’re pretty much the only person I’ve seen who thinks that.

The independent analysis of his origin performance was that it was pretty average at best. He didn’t do anything in attack.

True because he wasn't allow to. Also what about his defense, that was outstanding.

 

[Pomoz]

Pomoz the squad is pretty stacked mate. we should be playing much better football

Yes, except we have had a horrendous injury toll this year and we have a young roster. I guess, the question is how much better should we be?

 

[mxlegend99]

I will say this, Gus is not helping making comments on twitter. It creates media speculation and undermines the coach. Its not very good leadership by Gus.

That said, and Mx, bet cats and Umina will be getting excited at the thought, for him to write that tells me that Hook is gone. He wouldn't say those things if he was going to stay and had Gus's support. He is usually effusive in praising his staff.

Im not a Hook fan. But he's not the only guy involved in our coaching structure. If we just promote Ciraldo I dont think much (if anything) improves.

 

[umina panther]

Yes, except we have had a horrendous injury toll this year and we have a young roster. I guess, the question is how much better should we be?

Yes its been very disruptive but anyone not having serious doubts about Maloney is of the mark now. Its simply not working

 

[mxlegend99]

Yes, except we have had a horrendous injury toll this year and we have a young roster. I guess, the question is how much better should we be?

That didn't save Cleary in 2015 and the stats posted recently show that he had more injured players missing more games as a total.

It's about time we didn't settle for average results. In 3 years our team hasnt really improved. When it looks like we have we turn to the worst form we've seen since Hook arrived.

 

[tripster]

Last year and the year before Gus used to always congratulate coach Griffin and the staff. He doesn't do that much anymore?

He did it two weeks ago. He congratulated everyone. I quoted the tweet on here.

 

[Pomoz]

That didn't save Cleary in 2015 and the stats posted recently show that he had more injured players missing more games as a total.

It's about time we didn't settle for average results. In 3 years our team hasnt really improved. When it looks like we have we turn to the worst form we've seen since Hook arrived.

Season hasn't finished yet.

 

[age.s]

I hope Hook gets the rest of the year. I'm not happy but I'm not ready to give up on 2018 either and sacking the coach would be suicide at this point.

 

[tripster]

I hope Hook gets the rest of the year. I'm not happy but I'm not ready to give up on 2018 either and sacking the coach would be suicide at this point.

There is no way he will be sacked this year. I am also sceptical about what Daz is saying. I deal in facts not rumours.

 

[umina panther]

There is no way he will be sacked this year. I am also sceptical about what Daz is saying. I deal in facts not rumours.

On all of this forum I'd take what Daz says over anyone. He's not just some lunatic like me or MX

 

[Kev07]

Im not a Hook fan. But he's not the only guy involved in our coaching structure. If we just promote Ciraldo I dont think much (if anything) improves.

I agree Ciraldo had a stacked & talented 20's squad when they won that 2015 premiership.

 

[tripster]

On all of this forum I'd take what Daz says over anyone. He's not just some lunatic like me or MX

It contradicts Greg Alexander (who is on the Panther’s board) who said this week that he is happy with Griffin and had no idea where the rumours were coming from.

It also contradicts the following facts (which I have posted before):

- Griffin is contracted until the end of 2020 after being extended last year. Gus and the board are not idiots. Why extend him last year and then fire him at the ends of this season (when we are almost certainly going to win more games this season than when did last year), and have to pay out 2 years of Griffin’s contract. It makes no sense.

- we have made the finals both seasons under Griffin’s tenure. Last season we did it after a terrible start to the season, but he managed to turn things around mid season and we got there in the end and won the first final against Manly. If play isn’t halted when Oates is knocked out then we score and probably go on to beat Brisbane.

- we will make the finals again this season, possibly (although unlikely) in the top 4. We have managed that despite an injury crisis.

- the season we have beaten the Dragons and Rabbitohs, two teams who are ahead of us on the ladder and you’d back us to beat them in a final if we played them. Our victory against the Dragons was one of the best performances I have seen from a Panthers side in a long time. We beat the Tigers who have been giant killers. We also smashed the Warriors without our Origin players and with two rookie halves.

- Our forwards are ferocious and our defence (until recently) had been outstanding.

- Everyone who has played under his tenure has improved as a player. He has excelled at developing young players into quality first graders. Those who didn’t improve were moved on.

- Players are renewing contracts and signing long term deals with him as coach.

I look at those facts and I compare them against the following “rumours” as being the reasons why Griffin is going to be sacked:

- Griffin is stubborn (so what? I imagine Bennett is as stubborn as they come)

- Gus thinks we should be doing better (not unexpected - every team should always be aiming for improvement)

- Some of the staff don’t like him (does everyone like the boss in any organisation?)

I just can’t rationally combine the rumoured facts and reach the outcome that he is about to be fired.

 

[Panther_Daz]

There is no way he will be sacked this year. I am also sceptical about what Daz is saying. I deal in facts not rumours.

Fair enough.

However those who have been on this forum for a long time would know I don't just post gossip here for the sake of it.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

He did it two weeks ago. He congratulated everyone. I quoted the tweet on here.

Yes I've seem it. Some seem to have short term memory loss.