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ARLC Commission Changes

taipan

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no team is going to win every week. If supporters will only go to a RL game if a win is guaranteed then the game is stuffed. Look at Newcastle, dire performances yet the fans turn up bless them. No player goes out to play badly, some might not be up to it but doubtful many don't care. Are you suggesting we go back to winning and losing pay lol?

Players acting like dcks off the field is a different argument.

Stating the obvious"no team is going to win every week" LOL.
The biggest supported clubs in Sydney are the ones with the poor record this year.That impacts crowds, and is further denuded by poor scheduling.

Yet you can't se the 2017 impact on Tigers/Souths/Dogs LOL.Open your peepers FFS.

You get bigger crowds, the less Leagues club have to throw in to support the football club.NRL club averages are down.Ask yourself which clubs are influencing this figure?

You haven't been around rl very long in this country.Teams who continually are down the ladder ,get the weaker crowds.It happens in fumbleball too, although your coloured glasses get fogged up, when we dare criticse them.

BTW I'm not suggesting any such thing.You love to make assumptions and put words into my mouth.I'm suggesting players should be rewarded for their time, effort and physical toll it takes on them, within what the game can afford, because the next generation of guys doing the same thing comes from, the grassroots.We are bleeding at grassroots ATM,does it actually sink in?

You choose to let the NRL do an ARU and spend, spend,,then players will not have a career, club or fans to worry about.
The fact the NRL owns two clubs ATM has saved the jobs of dozens of players from U20 to NRL in GC ands Newcastle.
Which is pretty much what the AFL is doing with Lions/Gnats and to a lesser extent Sunburns.And they have more money to do so, due too accumulation of better TV deals, and bigger crowds.
 

Perth Red

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We are bleeding at grassroots ATM,does it actually sink in?
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Myth, we are not bleeding at grass roots. Junior numbers are up, touch numbers are up, women's numbers are up. The men's full contact numbers are down, and for reasons as discussed on here that amount of nrl funding will solve.
 

taipan

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You'd better look into the matter a little further.Adult players are part of the grassroots set up.
IOW we are not keeping players as much as we need to.Players to fill expansion teams.

It's great the kids numbers are not faltering ,but it's not great when they leave because they have to play guys 20- 30kgs heavier than them when they hit 14 plus.
Have a chat with Gould and others at the coal face, you may learn something.

"That amount of funding" is,analysed, decided and worked out, by people in the field and back at admin.
Not by an estimator on a keyboard,tucked away metres from the Indian Ocean and the great whites.

If additional funding is available that funding can be used to retain at least some adult players, who would otherwise be lost.Regioanls in particular.
 

Perth Red

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Gus still not happy, anyone get the feeling he is positioning for commission chair?


I genuinely fear for the future of our game.
The NRL is in a mess. The warning signs have been there for quite a while.
That will seem like a fairly negative statement. It is.
It is also in direct conflict with my personal view that our game has never had greater potential.
Rugby League should be on the springboard to something really special.
Unfortunately, the game keeps getting in its own way.
By now, we should have assets on our balance sheet to guarantee our future. We should have the money and expertise available to grow our game both domestically and internationally.
In this time of great prosperity, (our game has never seen more revenue), the game's governing body, our clubs, and our players, should be united and excited and about the future of rugby league.
As it stands today, our game is fractured. Relationships between the clubs and players, with the game's governing body, have never been more strained.
Our game's leaders claim to be investing in rugby league's future. Evidence would suggest our game borrows from the future to survive the present . The vast majority of the game's revenue, across all levels, is spent on wages. How much of this is actually helping our future is debatable.
Next week we will witness the most watched game of rugby league in history. We should be ready to kick a big goal.


Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/07/05/...for-the-future-of-the-nrl#ddLy0jWCqaHwVpSL.99
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Gus still not happy, anyone get the feeling he is positioning for commission chair?


I genuinely fear for the future of our game.
The NRL is in a mess. The warning signs have been there for quite a while.
That will seem like a fairly negative statement. It is.
It is also in direct conflict with my personal view that our game has never had greater potential.
Rugby League should be on the springboard to something really special.
Unfortunately, the game keeps getting in its own way.
By now, we should have assets on our balance sheet to guarantee our future. We should have the money and expertise available to grow our game both domestically and internationally.
In this time of great prosperity, (our game has never seen more revenue), the game's governing body, our clubs, and our players, should be united and excited and about the future of rugby league.
As it stands today, our game is fractured. Relationships between the clubs and players, with the game's governing body, have never been more strained.
Our game's leaders claim to be investing in rugby league's future. Evidence would suggest our game borrows from the future to survive the present . The vast majority of the game's revenue, across all levels, is spent on wages. How much of this is actually helping our future is debatable.
Next week we will witness the most watched game of rugby league in history. We should be ready to kick a big goal.


Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/07/05/...for-the-future-of-the-nrl#ddLy0jWCqaHwVpSL.99

I am actually really interested to see what he would do as Chairman...

It would probably end terribly, but it would be entertaining (and the plebs would stop bitching for at least a few minutes with a guy who "gets" RL in charge again)
 

taipan

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If the 5 year plan instituted by Gus is going so well at Penrith to date,I hate to think about the result of his NRL strategic plan ,if he was on the commission.

He's a great talker,and loves the negativity to get in the limelight, but outside his own domain(and I believe Packer assisted him)he would be lost.No thanks.
 

siv

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Hearing that the NRL and RLPA may have come to a initial set of agreements on player squad number and minimum wages
 

magpie_man

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If the 5 year plan instituted by Gus is going so well at Penrith to date,I hate to think about the result of his NRL strategic plan ,if he was on the commission.

He's a great talker,and loves the negativity to get in the limelight, but outside his own domain(and I believe Packer assisted him)he would be lost.No thanks.

I'm certainty no fan of his snide rantings but I do believe he has instituted some very positive initiatives during his tenure at Penrith with the opening of the academy and the recent links and assistance with regional centres in central western NSW being two of the more notable ones.
 
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And more than the NRL has done in five years for both develpment and bush football.

How's the commission's own strategic plan going five years on? Remember that? The thing that is never spoken of.
 

taipan

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I'm certainty no fan of his snide rantings but I do believe he has instituted some very positive initiatives during his tenure at Penrith with the opening of the academy and the recent links and assistance with regional centres in central western NSW being two of the more notable ones.
I understand J Packer helped with some of the work there.
Yep I do applaud his work in the Bathurst areas.But the area to my knowledge has been part of the Panther's domain.
 

taipan

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And more than the NRL has done in five years for both develpment and bush football.

How's the commission's own strategic plan going five years on? Remember that? The thing that is never spoken of.


Didn't realise Gus was involved in getting the Hunters in a 2nd tier comp.nor his involvement in lobbying and finally securing funding for new stadiums, nor spending money on Integrity units because players were carrying on, and clubs overspending and rorting the system, nor keeping other NRL clubs buoyant.

if you bother to open your peepers, I have stated the grassroots has been neglected,not once but a dozen times.
" Never spoken "of LOLI have spelt out the money wasted on high flying NRL execs ,most of whom now gone who did little.Plus $750,000 on a new SFS feasibility.
Perhaps as you and I are concerned about grassroots ,you have a chat with PR.And check where the money has been spent/allocated.Instead of doing your usual whinge.
 

Pedge1971

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Gus can clearly run a football dept but running the game is a very different kettle of fish.

Gus also wants/needs complete control and operates to his agenda. That will not work in the nrl. He would be thrown out in 12 months.
 
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Hunters had nothing to do with the NRL at all. When you have to lie to make the merkins look like they've done something in the past five years you're in trouble. Those other things are THEIR f**kING JOB. Not PHIL Gould's. And they've still f**ked them up. The integrity unit is a joke. The stadiums are still up in the air. And the clubs are still haemorrhaging cash. So their big achievements are all worthless.

Not that ANY of those things are part of their own strategic plan. It's 2017. The plan has reached maturity. So when will we hear from the ARLC on their achievements after five years? When will they address their own plan and reflect on its success? I'm certainly waiting. The apologists can lie all they like. The facts speak for themselves. The strategic plan was the most superficial load of wank ever and they still haven't achieved its goals. f**king incompetents.
 
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Hunters had nothing to do with the NRL at all. When you have to lie to make the merkins look like they've done something in the past five years you're in trouble. Those other things are THEIR f**kING JOB. Not PHIL Gould's. And they've still f**ked them up. The integrity unit is a joke. The stadiums are still up in the air. And the clubs are still haemorrhaging cash. So their big achievements are all worthless.

Not that ANY of those things are part of their own strategic plan. It's 2017. The plan has reached maturity. So when will we hear from the ARLC on their achievements after five years? When will they address their own plan and reflect on its success? I'm certainly waiting. The apologists can lie all they like. The facts speak for themselves. The strategic plan was the most superficial load of wank ever and they still haven't achieved its goals. f**king incompetents.

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Can't contribute anything as usual.

When the NRL apologists have to make up their achievements or steal them from others and ignore their own strategic plan it's pretty clear they have absolutely nothing. But when they can't even come up with any kind of response you know that nothing is overstating it.
 
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Can't contribute anything as usual.

When the NRL apologists have to make up their achievements or steal them from others and ignore their own strategic plan it's pretty clear they have absolutely nothing. But when they can't even come up with any kind of response you know that nothing is overstating it.

Saying little always beats being a crusty old whinging loudmouth knob who makes sh!t up to justify his own stupidity. Congratulations ECT.
 

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