ARLC Commission Changes

[Jatz Crackers]

There are some things they have achieved to bring some balance to this btch fight! They've improved social media,
they've improved pacific island support,
they've improved international rep games as the pinnacle of the sport, kind of,
NRL games to be played in every state achieved, sporadically at still in the clubs hands

Sadly none of these things are really that important to the future of the game when you compare them to their list of fails. It would take a pretty impressive commission apologist to explain the results of the strategic plan measures to anything other than an abysmal failure in the key growth areas.

I guess $1.8billion wants enough to achieve these things, maybe $2.5billion will be in the next 5 years lol

At least you display some semblance of balance PR.

Balance depends upon your outlook and your thinking, but the rhetoric often thrown around here certainly doesnt match being balanced it doesnt evenmact being sensible. Especially when we talk about old mate nutjob Crusty and his incessant whinging.

Take just one issue in isolation and lets see who is balanced. Old Crusty says the whole commission is a failure and corrupt or inept and cites 400,000 club members as one objective which is a complete "FAIL" because we are nearly 100,000 short. Yet, it is most certainly an improvement on club membership from the time of when that plan was drawn up 5 years ago with the last 12 months showing a healthy increase of over 33,000 members. Yes, it didn't meet the target set in back in 2013 but is it a FAIL......no it isnt.

But according to some here that is one indicator of an abysmal result and the commission should all be sacked blah blah blah. They will come out and cite other objectives that were not met and whinge in the same fashion but they cherry pick an issue to present it as evidence of abject failure.

One thing I do know for sure is that if the ARLC consisted of any of the unbalanced, negative, whinging know nothings on here the game would be going backwards at a rate of knots as its quit clear they have zero commercial or financial acumen whatsoever.

The ARLC needs a shakeup and I say Grant has to go because new blood is needed & he is ultimately responsible for things that havn,t gone to plan. But to say the Commission is an utter faulure however is ludicrous.

 

[El Diablo]

maybe $2.5billion will be in the next 5 years lol

you are aware the AFL deal is 6 years, not 5

 

[Perth Red]

At least you display some semblance of balance PR.

Balance depends upon your outlook and your thinking, but the rhetoric often thrown around here certainly doesnt match being balanced it doesnt evenmact being sensible. Especially when we talk about old mate nutjob Crusty and his incessant whinging.

Take just one issue in isolation and lets see who is balanced. Old Crusty says the whole commission is a failure and corrupt or inept and cites 400,000 club members as one objective which is a complete "FAIL" because we are nearly 100,000 short. Yet, it is most certainly an improvement on club membership from the time of when that plan was drawn up 5 years ago with the last 12 months showing a healthy increase of over 33,000 members. Yes, it didn't meet the target set in back in 2013 but is it a FAIL......no it isnt.

But according to some here that is one indicator of an abysmal result and the commission should all be sacked blah blah blah. They will come out and cite other objectives that were not met and whinge in the same fashion but they cherry pick an issue to present it as evidence of abject failure.

One thing I do know for sure is that if the ARLC consisted of any of the unbalanced, negative, whinging know nothings on here the game would be going backwards at a rate of knots as its quit clear they have zero commercial or financial acumen whatsoever.

The ARLC needs a shakeup and I say Grant has to go because new blood is needed & he is ultimately responsible for things that havn,t gone to plan. But to say the Commission is an utter faulure however is ludicrous.

tbf, and just looking at that one target, it is a failure to meet their set objective. It is only in the last two years that they have invested anything like what they should have to meet that objective (by employing two staff per club to drive memberships). So you can argue it is not an abject failure to meet 75% of your target but you can also argue that the target wasn't ridiculously unreasonable and should have been achieved with the right investment and effort.

In the other areas there have been abject failures (financial reserves, club sustainability and crowd growth) in some areas part success and part failure (grass roots participation and game reach) and in some areas more success than failure (memberships and non media revenue growth) and in some areas success (PI strategy and International test match focus).

Mixed results, probably not unlike most companies, however still having majority of clubs broke, NRL having to borrow money, reserves spent and not much growth in tv or attendance are pretty dire outcomes of 5 years of independent ownership and massive revenue increases.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

At least you display some semblance of balance PR.

Balance depends upon your outlook and your thinking, but the rhetoric often thrown around here certainly doesnt match being balanced it doesnt evenmact being sensible. Especially when we talk about old mate nutjob Crusty and his incessant whinging.

Take just one issue in isolation and lets see who is balanced. Old Crusty says the whole commission is a failure and corrupt or inept and cites 400,000 club members as one objective which is a complete "FAIL" because we are nearly 100,000 short. Yet, it is most certainly an improvement on club membership from the time of when that plan was drawn up 5 years ago with the last 12 months showing a healthy increase of over 33,000 members. Yes, it didn't meet the target set in back in 2013 but is it a FAIL......no it isnt.

But according to some here that is one indicator of an abysmal result and the commission should all be sacked blah blah blah. They will come out and cite other objectives that were not met and whinge in the same fashion but they cherry pick an issue to present it as evidence of abject failure.

One thing I do know for sure is that if the ARLC consisted of any of the unbalanced, negative, whinging know nothings on here the game would be going backwards at a rate of knots as its quit clear they have zero commercial or financial acumen whatsoever.

The ARLC needs a shakeup and I say Grant has to go because new blood is needed & he is ultimately responsible for things that havn,t gone to plan. But to say the Commission is an utter faulure however is ludicrous.

As opposed to a wanker whose only argument is to call someone old when they're not and think they have a point. The "one thing they know" is nothing but conjecture but they run away from the facts and try to rewrite the definition of failure. Did the NRL reach 400,000 members? No. Is that success or failure? Did they reach 20,000 crowds (or even improve them AT ALL)? No. Is that success or failure? Did they reach 700,000 players (or even increase numbers AT ALL)? No. Success or failure? Have they put $200,000m into future fund projects (or even have one AT ALL)? No. Success or failure? Apparently if you've got a massive hard on for the NRL failing magically becomes a success. They can't even meet their own weak objectives never mind deal with the things they've ignored.

The chairman is so incompetent he bought his job with the game's money and still had to quit. The commission is so dysfunctional two of its own members walked out in disgust at its incompetence.

But the circle are still banging away in the face of overwhelming evidence because they have a brilliant response - calling someone old. That is all.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...y/news-story/eb67ab2c45efbc8071edcc3d71cc542e

UN indigenous rep Megan Davis set to join ARL body

• The Australian
• 12:00AM July 22, 2017
• Brent Read
  

One of Australia’s foremost experts on indigenous affairs is poised to join the Australian Rugby League Commission as the game’s governing body takes the first step towards overhauling its peak decision-making body.

The Weekend Australian understands that Megan Davis, the first indigenous Australian to sit on a UN body, is on the verge of being appointed to the commission after being sounded out by ARL chairman John Grant.

Professor Davis is also a professor of law at the University of NSW and, as her prolific social-media activities show, an avid North Queensland Cowboys and Queensland Maroons fan.

This month she posted images of the third State of Origin game from a UN meeting in Geneva. In another sign of her passion for the code, she posted another image of her watching the under-16s State of Origin game while in the UN Human Rights Council.

Professor Davis’s is likely to be one of two appointments made by the commission in coming weeks as it attempts to strengthen the board before constitutional reform comes into effect.

She will take the number of independent commissioners to seven but Mr Grant is likely to add another representative to take the number to eight.

Mr Grant and Catherine Harris are expected to walk away in February next year, reducing the number of independent commissioners to six. Mr Grant has told the clubs he will step down at the end of his term in February.

Under the proposal for constitutional reform, the commission would eventually comprise 10 members — six independents, two club representatives and a representative each from the Queensland and NSW Rugby League.

The two independent commissioners earmarked to join the board are considered the most crucial appointments, because the next chairman or chairwoman must come from their ranks.

Professor Davis’s credentials should ensure she is a contender.

The two state representatives on the commission will ultimately be their two chairmen — Queensland’s Bruce Hatcher and NSW’s George Peponis.

Among names suggested as club representatives are Racing NSW boss Peter V’landys, former ARL chief executive John Quayle, former Queensland premier Anna Bligh, former News Limited chief executive John Hartigan and Harvey Norman chief executive Katie Page.

Professor Davis’s resume stacks up alongside them all. In 2013, she was named as one of Australia’s 100 women of influence but it was her appointment as chairwoman and expert member of the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Peoples that stands out.

Last year she was also appointed by Malcolm Turnbull to the Referendum Council.

Her work with the UN suggests she has an acute ability to handle the politics that come with the ARL Commission, which has had a toxic relationship with the clubs in recent years.

Mr Grant was forced to fend off several attacks on his leadership before he decided to stand down next year at the behest of the clubs.

 

[taipan]

I hope she gets in and kicks butts,from the NRL and from clubs CEOs and Chairmen.
There are too many Indians currently trying to run the reservation

 

[El Diablo]

many hands make light work

 

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I think she is more likely a replacement for Chris Sarra, than to fill the current vacancies. Sarra was apparently not seeking re-election next year as well.

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh she is Sara's replacement. Commission looks light on with the current 6. Geez I hope the club and state nominated commissioners actually contribute something decent.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The work happening at NRLHQ is very f**king light.

 

[El Diablo]

I think she is more likely a replacement for Chris Sarra, than to fill the current vacancies.

Yeh she is Sara's replacement.

that's not the reason at all. this is

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/6f7ab39d6623081031f1fb1ddf8d0232

Under the proposal for constitutional reform, which is waiting on the approval of the Queensland Rugby League, the chairman would come from the ranks of the independents. The widely held view is that, beyond Grant, none of the existing independents is a viable chair alternative. That means Grant’s successor needs to come from the two appointments he is expected to make in coming weeks. The clock is ticking. Under a clause in the current constitution, the clubs have the capacity to appoint their own commissioners in the event that the board of directors consists of fewer than eight people for more than six months.

Former commissioners Graeme Samuel and Jeremy Sutcliffe stood down in February after becoming frustrated with the decision to hand over bucketloads of cash to the clubs from next season, leaving only six commissioners.

Therefore, Grant had until the end of August to replace Samuel and Sutcliffe or the clubs would be given the power as shareholders in the commission to appoint their own people. It appears Grant is ready to meet that timeline, with Davis expected to be one of the appointments.

 

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that's not the reason at all. this is

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/6f7ab39d6623081031f1fb1ddf8d0232

I mentioned that clause somewhere in this thread months ago, she may be appointed now, but with a view to fulfill the same attributes as Sarra when he leaves the commission. She isn't a replacement for Samuel or Sutcliffe on that basis.

 

[El Diablo]

so you are calling her selection racist

 

[insert.pause]

so you are calling her selection racist

No, her skill set is not the same as Sutcliffe or Samuel, which is what the commission needs to replace.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/dce4d2359df0aa9695cb8685b63e553c

State of Origin rivalry may extend to ARL commission

• The Australian
• 12:00AM July 25, 2017
• Brent Read

The State of Origin series has been run and won but officials from NSW clubs will be watching closely as ARL Commission chair John Grant prepares to unveil his two new commissioners.

Indigenous activist and United Nations expert Professor Megan Davis will be one. Like Grant, she is a Queenslander who has a passion for the North Queensland Cowboys and the Maroons.

Her political know-how should ensure she has enough nous to negotiate the prickly relationship between the commission and the clubs. The other remains a closely guarded secret although the suggestion is the appointee will be Grant’s successor, hand-picked to take over when he eventually steps down in February.

The whisper is that person could be another Queenslander and that’s where things could get interesting. Grant has occupied the game’s most prestigious post since the commission’s inception in 2012, meaning a Queenslander has occupied the sport’s loftiest position.

Knowing the next chair is likely to come from his two impending appointments, Grant has gone out of his way to secure two impressive figures who can work alongside the current group of commissioners.

Davis is a no-brainer. She is a lawyer who has been elected to a United Nations forum on indigenous issues. She is just as passionate about rugby league if her social media feed is any indication.

This is rugby league though. No matter how credentialed the new faces are, if their birth certificate points to Queensland there will be some unhappy campers among the clubs. Make no mistake, the rivalry between the states often extends beyond the football field and into the boardroom.

Nowhere has that been more evident than during negotiations over the commission. The Queensland Rugby League has been a thorn in the side of NRL clubs who have been pressing hard for constitutional reform which would result in the clubs having two commissioners on a new 10-person body. The states would also have two representatives — QRL chair Bruce Hatcher and his NSW counterpart George Peponis — along with six independent commissioners. Reform remains to a large extent in the hands of the QRL. Hatcher yesterday confirmed they were in the final throes of preparing their response to the proposal and the sense is that change may be close, although some hurdles still need to be cleared.

The QRL has had concerns over the chair being given a casting vote and the process which has been outlined to remove and approve commissioners. They ultimately have veto rights over any constitutional change so the clubs need the QRL on side.

The parties aren’t in agreement but it will be reached, potentially soon. The focus will then turn to the club appointments to the commission. Names such as NSW Racing chief Peter V’landys and former ARL chief executive John Quayle have been mentioned but any appointment will require agreement among a majority of clubs.

The most contentious appointments will be made by Grant and the current commission. The clubs have had an acrimonious relationship with the existing chairman. They ultimately called for him to honour a commitment they believe had been struck for him to depart in February next year.

Grant’s successor will come from the ranks of the independents and some NRL clubs won’t be happy.

 

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it's peter beattie! christ...

 

[herbert henry1908]

Would've preferred to see one of the two new appointees with some business acumen.

Both are career activists/politicians

 

[El Diablo]

https://www.nrl.com/arlc-appoints-two-new-commissioners/tabid/10874/newsid/110346/default.aspx

ARLC appoints two new Commissioners
Tue 25 Jul, 2017, 10:33am
Media Release, NRL

The ARL Commission today announced the appointment of two new Commissioners to fill the current vacancies.

Professor Megan Davis and the Honourable Peter Beattie AC will join the Commission immediately.

Chairman John Grant said the appointments would significantly strengthen the Commission.

He said Professor Davis is one of the nation’s leading constitutional lawyers who has had a long and distinguished international diplomatic career as well as being a champion of Indigenous and women’s rights.

She is also a passionate Rugby League fan who grew up in country Queensland, where rugby league was at the centre of her community.

"It is a privilege and honour to be invited to become an ARL Commissioner," Professor Davis said.

Mr Beattie was Premier of Queensland from 1998 until 2007, making him one of the State’s most successful political leaders.

During this period he was a strong advocate for Rugby League and was responsible for the construction of Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium and the Gold Coast’s Cbus Stadium.

"I have a great love of Rugby League and I am excited about the prospect of working with the Commission to make the game even greater," Mr Beattie said.

Mr Grant said that with the Collective Bargaining Agreement, finalisation of the club funding and licence agreement, constitutional reform, and the NRL’s digital presence likely to all be completed by year end, the pair were joining the Commission for the next exciting stage of the game’s development.

"I have no doubt these appointments will give the Commission additional expertise and insight as it looks to capitalise on the foundations that have been put in place over the last six years," he said.

 

[Nerd]

Don't know if Beattie will work out but he could be good for helping extract funding from government for new stadiums etc.

 

[davi]

For those putting crap on Peter Beattie it was his government that decided to rebuild a new 52 000 state of the art rugby league stadium at the old Lang park keeping with tradition. A plan that was backed by the QRL, Liberals/Nationals wanted to build the new stadium at the old Brisbane showgrounds just crazy............