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ARLC Commission Changes

El Diablo

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Fairfax Media has been told Samuel's disenchantment with rugby league decision-making began with the sale, by former chief executive, Dave Smith, of broadcasting rights to Channel Nine

more proof Smith and Grant went rogue and f**ked it up
 
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Yeah but it's just a conspiracy by news ltd against Davey boy smith because he replaced gallop.

It's such a brilliant and far-reaching news conspiracy it's even roped in Masters and Fairfax.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...cliffe-resign-from-panel-20170118-gttmx8.html


ARLC commissioners Graeme Samuel and Jeremy Sutcliffe resign from panel

Disappointed at the direction the ARLC has taken in the past 18 months, particularly the recent surrender by chairman John Grant to NRL clubs over funding, two of Australia's most prominent businessmen have resigned as commissioners.

Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February and CSR boss Jeremy Sutcliffe has already tendered his resignation, despite his term not expiring.

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Stepping down: Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February. Photo: Wayne Taylor

The NRL yesterday confirmed both departures.

Fairfax Media has been told Samuel's disenchantment with rugby league decision-making began with the sale, by former chief executive, Dave Smith, of broadcasting rights to Channel Nine and his disillusionment has continued with the demand by NRL clubs and state leagues for funding to be diverted away from grassroots development. Samuel is a strong advocate of rugby league's expansion into developing states.

Sutcliffe offered his resignation to Grant 12 months ago, citing the demands of travel, but was encouraged to remain on the eight-person commission.

Suggestions that Cathy Harris, the only female commissioner, would resign have been denied, with insiders claiming she is very loyal to Grant.

The decisions by Samuel and Sutcliffe to resign were made ahead of the clandestine meeting of the boards of the NSWRL and QRL in Brisbane on Monday at which they reached agreement on a joint demand for a representative each on the ARLC.

Should the NRL clubs also be successful in having two representatives on a proposed nine-person commission, the balance between independents and dependents would be five to four.

This is an unsatisfactory model for those promoting impartiality, particularly non-Sydney clubs who are fearful of the influence of the strong duo of chairmen on the board of the NSWRL – the Roosters Nick Politis and the Bulldogs Ray Dib.

Samuel's loss is significant. He played a major role in the evolution of a loss-making, archaic VFL into the AFL's position as the premier sporting code in the nation.

A former AFL executive commissioner, Ross Oakley, cited Samuel in his book The Phoenix Rises as the most influential individual in the move from a state-based competition run by Melbourne clubs to a truly independent commission.

Unlike the ARLC, which bans anyone joining the board who has held a position in rugby league over the previous three years, the AFL regularly drafts retiring club chairmen onto its commission.

The removal of an AFL commissioner required 50 per cent of the clubs to agree.

However, the NSWRL and QRL, together with many of the NRL clubs, demand direct representation.

The resignations of Samuel and Sutcliffe may negate the need to increase the number of commissioners to nine.

Rabbitohs chairman Nick Pappas has strong support from non-Sydney clubs and was a member of the NSW party which travelled to Brisbane on Monday.

Significantly, Pappas is not a board member of the NSWRL and has often been at odds with Politis and Dib.

A lawyer, Pappas played a significant role in the drafting of the current ARLC constitution.

Should he be drafted onto the ARLC, it is expected he would be forced to resign as chairman of Souths.

A December meeting of NRL clubs and the NSWRL deferred a decision on the future of Grant to March 1, when it is expected a review of the ARLC constitution will have been tabled by AOC chair and lawyer John Coates.

Some NRL club chairmen expect a working party to then be appointed to review Coates' recommendations, with Pappas playing a leading role.

While the loss of Samuel and Sutcliffe makes Grant's position increasingly untenable, there is no obvious, independent alternative, unless the ARLC's ambitious chief executive Todd Greenberg puts himself forward as executive chairman!

Its disappointing that these two have quit, but i cant say i blame them...

After that big move tearing up the club grant agreement, JG completely rolled over just to save his own job.

Honestly, im surprised its only these 2...
 

TheRam

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This game will never reach its full potential. What a basket case. Sometimes I just think it would be better if it just died a sudden death and I don't have to worry about it anymore.

So freakin sad.
 

taipan

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Surprised Samuels lasted as long as he did. The game has no desire to be anything more than it currently is.

Agreed but you do realise he bagged Smith for going solo on the TV deal with 9,and Samuels thought that plain stupid.Less money means less money to grassroots or what's the word again PR? Perth expansion.

You thought Smith getting the original 9 Tv deal was smart thinking.Samuels who is hardly a dumbo thought otherwise.
Now we have a clusterf*ck of losing 1/4 of the Commissioners,and Politis in reality virtually running the show .

NRL shooting themselves once again in the foot, nothing's changed.Too many self interested loons involved.
 

El Diablo

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This game will never reach its full potential. What a basket case. Sometimes I just think it would be better if it just died a sudden death and I don't have to worry about it anymore.

So freakin sad.
and they're still using a temp for NRL.com
 

El Diablo

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...t/news-story/bd6d44b1674bdb58448c8c853c5dbc13

ARL Comission set for major shake-up in 2017 after two members walkout
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Phil Rothfield - Sports Editor-at-Large, The Daily Telegraph
January 18, 2017 11:25pm

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TWO members of rugby league’s independent commission have quit as part of a major shake-up and sweeping changes to the game’s administration.

Directors Jeremy Sutcliffe and Graeme Samuel both resigned on Wednesday after months of squabbling with the 16 NRL clubs over future funding.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the commission will now undergo a major revamp before the start of the season that will include the appointment of NSWRL chairman George Peponis and his QRL counterpart Peter Betros and two club-appointed officials.

One of the club appointments is likely to be former Channel Nine boss David Gyngell, which would force him to stand down from the Nine board.

Highly regarded Racing NSW boss Peter V’landys is also a strong tip to be included.

Under the new structure, the commission will increase from eight members to nine.

Two from the states, two from the clubs and five from the NRL.

John Grant will remain as chairman but with a strict deadline of February 2018 for his departure.

Grant has been in secret talks with influential club bosses for several days over the final structure of the commission.

Yet he was caught by surprise when Sutcliffe and Samuel chose to walk.

NRL insiders claim the pair were furious at Grant for caving in to club funding demands in December.

“They were both of the opinion the game couldn’t afford to give the clubs as much money as they did,” said one NRL source.

Another commissioner Chris Sarra also announced earlier this year he is stepping down.

The appointments of state bosses Peponis and Betros is a huge victory for heartland rugby league with their knowledge of the grassroots and in particular country football.

Another two will be appointed by the clubs to give officials from the 16 teams just under half of the representation on the revamped commission.

“This is a huge result for the game,” said one senior official last night.

“It is going to take a lot of heat and bitterness out of the relationships between the clubs and the administration because the clubs are not going to criticise officials they have appointed.”

Talks will continue over the next few days before the NRL is in a position to announce the changes.

Positions will be finalised before the March kick-off to ensure a smooth start to the season.
 

insert.pause

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What is it with rothfield and V’landys? He has been trying to get that guy in since the commission was formed.

So if this were to all eventuate Politis would have influence through both peponis, through the NSWRL board, and Gyngell, the former roosters board member. I can't see it going down like that, other clubs will see it for what it is.
 

Knownothing

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If they took a national approach these idiot clubs could reap the rewards with cash.... afl perfect example, unfortunately we have a lot farktards running the show


Some Sydney based clubs would have to go to allow national expansion.


The VFL made some tough decisions. Are you suggesting that expansion would be painless? It would be okay for the winners, and it would be death for the losers. Imagine the s**t-storm.
 
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...cliffe-resign-from-panel-20170118-gttmx8.html


ARLC commissioners Graeme Samuel and Jeremy Sutcliffe resign from panel

Disappointed at the direction the ARLC has taken in the past 18 months, particularly the recent surrender by chairman John Grant to NRL clubs over funding, two of Australia's most prominent businessmen have resigned as commissioners.

Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February and CSR boss Jeremy Sutcliffe has already tendered his resignation, despite his term not expiring.

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Stepping down: Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February. Photo: Wayne Taylor

The NRL yesterday confirmed both departures.

Fairfax Media has been told Samuel's disenchantment with rugby league decision-making began with the sale, by former chief executive, Dave Smith, of broadcasting rights to Channel Nine and his disillusionment has continued with the demand by NRL clubs and state leagues for funding to be diverted away from grassroots development. Samuel is a strong advocate of rugby league's expansion into developing states.

Sutcliffe offered his resignation to Grant 12 months ago, citing the demands of travel, but was encouraged to remain on the eight-person commission.

Suggestions that Cathy Harris, the only female commissioner, would resign have been denied, with insiders claiming she is very loyal to Grant.

The decisions by Samuel and Sutcliffe to resign were made ahead of the clandestine meeting of the boards of the NSWRL and QRL in Brisbane on Monday at which they reached agreement on a joint demand for a representative each on the ARLC.

Should the NRL clubs also be successful in having two representatives on a proposed nine-person commission, the balance between independents and dependents would be five to four.

This is an unsatisfactory model for those promoting impartiality, particularly non-Sydney clubs who are fearful of the influence of the strong duo of chairmen on the board of the NSWRL – the Roosters Nick Politis and the Bulldogs Ray Dib.

Samuel's loss is significant. He played a major role in the evolution of a loss-making, archaic VFL into the AFL's position as the premier sporting code in the nation.

A former AFL executive commissioner, Ross Oakley, cited Samuel in his book The Phoenix Rises as the most influential individual in the move from a state-based competition run by Melbourne clubs to a truly independent commission.

Unlike the ARLC, which bans anyone joining the board who has held a position in rugby league over the previous three years, the AFL regularly drafts retiring club chairmen onto its commission.

The removal of an AFL commissioner required 50 per cent of the clubs to agree.

However, the NSWRL and QRL, together with many of the NRL clubs, demand direct representation.

The resignations of Samuel and Sutcliffe may negate the need to increase the number of commissioners to nine.

Rabbitohs chairman Nick Pappas has strong support from non-Sydney clubs and was a member of the NSW party which travelled to Brisbane on Monday.

Significantly, Pappas is not a board member of the NSWRL and has often been at odds with Politis and Dib.

A lawyer, Pappas played a significant role in the drafting of the current ARLC constitution.

Should he be drafted onto the ARLC, it is expected he would be forced to resign as chairman of Souths.

A December meeting of NRL clubs and the NSWRL deferred a decision on the future of Grant to March 1, when it is expected a review of the ARLC constitution will have been tabled by AOC chair and lawyer John Coates.

Some NRL club chairmen expect a working party to then be appointed to review Coates' recommendations, with Pappas playing a leading role.

While the loss of Samuel and Sutcliffe makes Grant's position increasingly untenable, there is no obvious, independent alternative, unless the ARLC's ambitious chief executive Todd Greenberg puts himself forward as executive chairman!
A huge blow for Rugby League in this country imo.
 

BuffaloRules

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Some Sydney based clubs would have to go to allow national expansion.


The VFL made some tough decisions. Are you suggesting that expansion would be painless? It would be okay for the winners, and it would be death for the losers. Imagine the s**t-storm.

What were they?

Sydney Rugby League teams have undergone a much more severe rationalisation than the old VFL sides...
 

Nerd

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I'm not sorry to see the back of Graeme Samuel. Being an ex AFL commissioner I have never felt comfortable with him being involved with the NRL.
 
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I'm not sorry to see the back of Graeme Samuel. Being an ex AFL commissioner I have never felt comfortable with him being involved with the NRL.

Apart from having a fiduciary responsibility, people like Samuels who have served on boards elsewhere are exactly what a growing sport needs. Different views, connections, knowledge of other sports administrations including/especially the AFL are exactly what RL needs to possess when strategically planning the future.
 
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This isn't a growing sport. And it doesn't have a plan for the future. What have the commissioners been doing exactly?

Apparently they all have a mantra tapped to their bathroom mirror and each morning they chant:

"this year I must do all I can to upset ECTs' sensibilities"

repeat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 

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