ARLC to meet expansion bidders.

[Perth Red]

It’d be nice to think the national Comp has evolved to the point it no longer requires pokie machines to make it viable.

 

[flippikat]

Something like this maybe

Brisbane Pythons

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I like the look of it, and I think a yellow and black club should be in the NRL someday.. BUT I don't think it makes sense for a 2nd Brisbane team.

IMO a 2nd Brisbane team needs a completely different colour scheme to the Broncos. Yellow/gold and Purple/maroon should be avoided.

What you posted would be fine for a Sunshine Coast or Central Qld team, or a Perth team (if the Pirates wanna drop red from their palatte), or even Wellington as it's the traditional colours here in NZs capital (even though I personally wish we had cooler provincial colours)... but not a team wanting to build a cross-city rivalry with the Broncos.

 

[flippikat]

Eastern suburbs tigers are keen to join the nrl

They should join forces with the Western Corridor bid (Ipswich/Logan).

A south Brisbane team in Green & Orange, with black & White trim would be very unique.

 

[Perth Red]

That’s what I quite like it. I I want the new Brisbane club to come out swinging at the broncos, stealing some of their alternate colour is a nice two fingers up at them from day one. The worse thing could happen would be a bland matey relationship between the two Brisbane clubs. Start a rivalry from the start.

 

[MrE_Assassin]

I Had this one in the expansion team names thread. Could always change jets to hornets. The hornets do have some standing in Brisbane as the RAAF fly them out of Amberley (West of Brisbane). They are also seen flying along the Brisbane River during the River Fire spectacle. Wouldn't be too far of a stretch to refer to the F/A-18s.

Belters I think is well wide of the mark. Doesn't sound nice and I can see the sports headlines the minute they lose their first game (circa Rd 1 2023). "Brisbane Belted"

 

[MrE_Assassin]

Gee this QLD bid stuff has a bit of everything:

Redcliffe - The suburban team looking to finally get their big break and reprsenting a small peninsula of Brisbane. (Compartive to the Sea Eagles)

Bombers - The Cookie-cutter, all show and no substance bid that looks to mirror the NRL outfit they plan to go up against. (Broncos/Storm-esque)

Western Corridor - The feel-good, family/country vibe with the tales of hard work and taking on the big bad city-folk. (A lil bit like Cowboys)

Easts Tigers - The bid that wants to throw their hat in the ring and is willing to do whatever it takes (even a name change) just to get a licence. (All I can think of is CC Bears)

 

[Pippen94]

Gee this QLD bid stuff has a bit of everything:

Redcliffe - The suburban team looking to finally get their big break and reprsenting a small peninsula of Brisbane. (Compartive to the Sea Eagles)

Bombers - The Cookie-cutter, all show and no substance bid that looks to mirror the NRL outfit they plan to go up against. (Broncos/Storm-esque)

Western Corridor - The feel-good, family/country vibe with the tales of hard work and taking on the big bad city-folk. (A lil bit like Cowboys)

Easts Tigers - The bid that wants to throw their hat in the ring and is willing to do whatever it takes (even a name change) just to get a licence. (All I can think of is CC Bears)

Glass half empty guy I guess?

 

[Pippen94]

I'd be looking at other names that could unite all areas so "South Queensland" works, or "Western Belt" as opposed to Western Corridor, which the word "corridor" isn't an easy word to use in a club name, as it has the tongue twist/many syllables, and then what is the mascot?
Ipswich seems to area that the bid stems from, but they also state, Logan all the way to Toowoomba are involved
Which means it cannot be just the "Jets" as Toowoomba Clydesdales, and Logan scorpions, plus Souths Brisbane Magpies are all invovled as locations that are represented, now Scorpions and Magpies merges some time ago to become Souths-Logan Magpies.

I wanted to use the indigenous area as an idea regarding the name, just as GAZF did with his expansion idea, he called them the Jagera Jets, but i felt we could use a play on words and have jagera be Jaguar, so South QLD Jaguars, or Western Belt Jaguars,

There's a show on the SYFY channel called "The Expanse" its a show about the human race in the 23rd century, theyve colonized mars, and started to colonize around the moons near Jupiter, the people on Mars are called Martians, and the people who live past the asteroid Belt are the Belters. And they call anyone who live towards the sun, on the otherside of the belt the Inners, so basically any martians and earthlings.

Could keep it simple as the
WESTERN BELTERS

Is Logan west?

 

[Pippen94]

Of course they started small, everything has too start small before they can grow big. But starting small doesn't make you a suburban club, and you are trying to move the goal posts.

BTW, United started out as Newton Heath LYR Football Club. The LYR stands for Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway, as they were started as the team for the Carriage and Wagon department of the LYR that was based in Newton Heath.

In other words they were a company club, not a suburban club.



Fremantle more or less represents the whole southern half of Perth, not just one suburb, they also weren't a pre-existing suburban club like Redcliffe.

An NRL equivalent to the Dockers would be if a new club was set up in Brisbane that represents the city south of the river, which is actually a brilliant idea for the new Brisbane club.


I never said that the Warriors add a quarter of the value to the Australian broadcast deal lol, no club individually adds that much to the Australian broadcast deal.

I said that the NZ broadcast deal would probably be worth less than a quarter of what it's worth now without the Warriors, and that is one of the reasons that makes them extremely valuable to the league.


You know what has a bigger population than Redcliffe; the whole city of Brisbane.

Why the f**k would you want a tiny suburban club in Redcliffe when you could have a huge metropolitan club that represents over a million people. It's literally choosing to stunt your own potential, it's f**king insanity.

And three clubs in Brisbane is just asking to over saturate the market.

Could Brisbane support it, probably. Does it need three teams though, no. So why do it when you don't need it?!

At that point you are just splitting the fan-base three ways instead of two, and making three smaller clubs instead of two big ones, which, again, would be choosing to stunt your own potential, which is f**king insanity.

Does Newton Heath LYR Football Club sound like is represents all of Manchester? Suburban club started small. Only Clippers-Lakers, Jets-Giants set up to cover entire city.

Using your logic why have two clubs not just one big one like Broncos?

Brisbane is one of only two major RL markets. If league wants to increase audience it should maximize interest there. 3 teams allows a Brisbane team in all FTA games. City of 3 million can sustain this.

 

[MugaB]

Is Logan west?

Nope, its south, but the bid is called the "western corridor" and they've been saying its an Ipwsich based bid, with a catchment stretching from Toowoomba to Logan, i just thought the word "corridor" could be exchanged with "belt"

 

[blue bags]

The lines on the bears jersey don't match up,..... thats shithouse!
i swear i saw the reveal a month ago, and it did line up, i think that player recieved a dud

odd, bulldogs do line up,,,,,,,,,,,, rabbits , bears dont

 

[The Great Dane]

Does Newton Heath LYR Football Club sound like is represents all of Manchester? Suburban club started small. Only Clippers-Lakers, Jets-Giants set up to cover entire city.

I already explained to you that Newton Heath were a a company club, they were set up by people from the Carriage and Wagon department of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway for employees to have a club to play for and support.

In other words they were a company club, and not a suburban club.

Also starting small doesn't mean that you were a suburban club, and you are just wrong about most of the examples I brought up. With the exception of City (which were a parish club, which is basically a suburban club) and maybe River Plate and Boca Juniors (I don't know how they started), none of the examples I brought up started as suburban clubs.

It'd be a waste of my time so I'd rather not, but we can go through each individual club if you like.

Using your logic why have two clubs not just one big one like Broncos?

Supply and demand.

There's more demand for the NRL in Brisbane than the Broncos can supply, so that you could bring in another club without it having much impact on the Broncos.
However, as things stand, it's unlikely that you could start a third club without it heavily impacting the other two clubs consumer bases, i.e. if you brought in a third club there'd be more supply then demand and the three clubs would end up competing with each other for the consumer base, and you'd end up with three weak clubs instead of two strong ones.

Basically, it's better to have two clubs that can support themselves with 15k fans each, then three club with 10k fans each that are all struggling to make ends meet.

Brisbane is one of only two major RL markets. If league wants to increase audience it should maximize interest there. 3 teams allows a Brisbane team in all FTA games. City of 3 million can sustain this.

Population doesn't necessarily equal consumer base, and even if "Brisbane is one of the only two major RL markets" (BTW, that is a f**king stupid and defeatist thing to say), it doesn't change the fact that there probably isn't enough demand in Brisbane to support three strong clubs. So by just throwing more and more clubs at them all you are going to do is dilute that audience between more and more clubs, and not "maximize interest".

It also doesn't change the fact that there're other valuable markets that don't have clubs that could sustain clubs, and frankly Perth, Adelaide, and/or NZ2 would all most certainly all be more valuable than a third Brisbane club.

 

[tri_colours]

It’d be nice to think the national Comp has evolved to the point it no longer requires pokie machines to make it viable.

Alcohol causes far more damage in society than poker machines so why the double standards?

 

[Perth Red]

Alcohol causes far more damage in society than poker machines so why the double standards?

which clubs own breweries?

 

[tri_colours]

which clubs own breweries?

There's plenty sponsored by them!

 

[The Great Dane]

which clubs own breweries?

None of them, every single one of them sells alcohol though...

At the end of the day if people want to gamble there's no stopping them, and personally, I'd much prefer that if they do gamble that they do it at a place like a leagues club where at least some of that money is going to be spent on community projects and things like sports clubs and juniors sports, then at a casino or bookie where most of the money is going straight into the back pockets of the owners of those businesses.

 

[MugaB]

Alcohol causes far more damage in society than poker machines so why the double standards?

I want to do both and smoke, who are you the fun police! Seriously moderation is the key, but if everyone was moderate, there would be no funded leagues clubs.
Theres no double standards, theres just get it where you can and where your legally allowed to, until the vegans, woke, doctors and mormons come knocking to ban Meat, Alcohol, Gambling, and Tackling out of this great game....

Basically all the fun, and tommy Roudonikis would shit on whoevers car for the idea that it was to listen to any of these preachers

 

[Perth Red]

Pokies are a scourge on communities, best thing WA govt ever did was keep them out of pubs and clubs. LC’s taking $80million and spending less than $1mill on actual community sport is no justification.

 

[The Great Dane]

Pokies are a scourge on communities, best thing WA govt ever did was keep them out of pubs and clubs. LC’s taking $80million and spending less than $1mill on actual community sport is no justification.

What's better, taking $80mil and putting less than $1mil back in, or taking $80mil and keeping every cent to yourself?

Because the casinos and bookies are taking way more than $80mil and they are keeping it all to themselves.

Personally I think to say that pokies are a scourge on communities is a massive oversimplification that totally ignores ones personal responsibility, but let's say that pokies are a scourge on communities, what're the alternatives?

Because where I'm standing all the alternatives look way worse.

If you keep pokies out of the hands of leagues clubs and pubs you are just going to funnel all the people that want to gamble to 100% for profit outfits like casinos, bookies, and online gambling sites.

If you make gambling illegal then you're pissing all the money made in taxing gambling away, and organised crime will meet the demand anyway, and organised crime meeting the demand is worse for everybody.

You could make an argument that Leagues clubs should be forced by law to put more of their profits from gambling back into community programs and sports, and that casinos, bookies, lottos, and other gambling should be taxed more, but realistically that isn't a big change on what we have now.

 

[Mr Angry]

Carina Leagues has been proudly supporting the local community for over 40 years with our contributions for the year ended 30th June 2018 at $4,200,000. This included a brand new gymnasium for the Clem Centre and a new clubhouse for Carina Junior Rugby League Football.

Though we may look like a big business because we employ 120+ people and have a modern facility, one point must be clear.

Carina Leagues is a community based club that is owned by the members, no-one shares in the profits, no-one is buying flash cars and big houses from the profits, every cent of profit generated is returned to the Community in one way or another be it donations, rent to the landlord (Camphill Carina Welfare Association) or sponsorship programs.

This contribution has assisted our Junior Football Club, various schools, sporting organisations, community funds and individuals via a variety of means from the donation of money, goods or equipment through to free use of our facilities. With your support we can continue to deliver and support our members and the community.

https://www.carinaleagues.com.au/info/our-community/proudly-supporting/

Burn it down!!