Ask Gus

[betcats]

Sorry but I'm just sick of the excuses, that's what most of that from Gould is.

There's little to no introspection and admissions of failure. He's had years now, at a certain point there must either be results or there must be changes.

And it's hilarious to see him use the excuses of injuries given how bad they were in 2015 & how little grace he showed to Cleary.

Exactly, he is just offering up excuses. 5 years in and we are a bees dick above last place and he is still giving excuses, its pathetic. If you cant give us a consistent side after five years you are not doing a good job.

If the players aren't following the game plan to a point where our season is pretty much gone after 9 games then why the f**k haven't any of the players been held accountable? Oh wait we dropped TMM lol Gould has created a culture of complacency, underperformance and excuses. The players aren't held accountable for piss poor performances, the coach isn't held accountable for piss poor coaching and Gould isn't held accountable for this cluster f**k he has given us. But hey be patient guys, at this rate in another 5 years we might actually play finals football in back to back seasons. We are one win above a team that has been described as the worst in NRL history, the tigers are doing better than we are and 6 weeks ago Gould publically warned Ivan not to take the coaching job there because there was no upside. 5 weeks in and Cleary has them playing with a f**kload more heart and commitment than our bums have shown all season. That is with numerous off field distractions still playing out publically.

 

[martielang]

What should he offer? Should he just resign because we've had 2 bad months of footy? Makes sense.

 

[ACTPanthers]

"So many people were talking up the Panthers"

Yeah, including the Panthers themselves... Hence our disappointment

"We don't have Josh Mansour, while Bryce Cartwright and James Fisher-Harris have hardly played this season. Peta Hiku and Dean Whare who didn't play much last year are coming back from serious knee injuries and still finding their way back into the football"

OK, but isn't that on the Coach? Shouldn't the Coach shoulder the blame for rushing underdone players back into the lineup? And honestly, if all our hopes hang on Mansour... Well, that's not ideal is it?

"I believe we have the right players, the right coaches and the right people in this club to build the next great era for the Panthers."

Well there you go, apparently our shit coaching is going to continue - The spoon should be fun...

 

[betcats]

What should he offer? Should he just resign because we've had 2 bad months of footy? Makes sense.

He should fire the coach. Outside of Hasler, Bennet and Bellamy what other coach would be allowed this kind of freedom in regards to completely inept performances from such a good squad? Even those three would be under pressure, are we the only club that doesn't care about losing? Even a month ago Gould thought this was a top four squad and we are running second last, playing ugly, undisciplined and soft football. Now he is using injured players as an excuse for our performances but we have actually had a good run with injuries so far, god forbid if Griffin ever cops and injury like Cleary had in 14 and 15.

These guys are making big money and failing miserably, should we just allow it to continue because Gus says its ok? f**k off.

 

[Bob]

Let the moaning resume.

Yep, nailed it, same shit from the same people

 

[herbert henry1908]

What should he offer? Should he just resign because we've had 2 bad months of footy? Makes sense.

Exactly what I said in the post above, introspection.

There's absolutely no self examination going on, no admission of any fault.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yep, nailed it, same shit from the same people

Discussion & venting are the very point of these boards.

 

[betcats]

Bennett pretty much nailed it in the broncos game presser after Griffin had been talking about the points we scored in the second half like we were making progress. "you are wasting your time talking like that" or something very close to that, what he said applies to our whole season so far, no one is being held accountable and it starts at the top. Sometimes looking for positives counterproductive, excuses are always counterproductive, instead of blaiming the players and injuries(flat out pathetic) I would've much preferred Gus to admit the mistakes he Griffin had made, at least then we would see some accountability rather than some blinkered muppet telling us we are in a great position. Gus and Griffin are wasting their time trying to spin positives out of this season. It has been a disaster, refusing to admit that is just burying your head in the sand.

 

[Pomoz]

All we need now is a tree and length of rope with a noose. W already have the lynch mob.

 

[BxTom]

Yep, nailed it, same shit from the same people

Exactly.

The only answer these people want is to have Griffin sacked and Moylan wearing a six on his back. As if this will magically fix everything. When Gould didn't give them this answer they carry on. God knows the season is going like crap, but these people make it so much worse.

Tom.

 

[umina panther]

What should he offer? Should he just resign because we've had 2 bad months of footy? Makes sense.

2 months? The year is done and by this point we should be seeing results. Gould has had over 5 years to sort this shit

 

[betcats]

Exactly.

The only answer these people want is to have Griffin sacked and Moylan wearing a six on his back. As if this will magically fix everything. When Gould didn't give them this answer they carry on. God knows the season is going like crap, but these people make it so much worse.

Tom.

You have been asked more than once to show one person who thinks this is a magical fix and have ignored it, you are flat out making shit up.

If the season is going like crap why shouldn't the coach be accountable??

 

[BxTom]

You have been asked more than once to show one person who thinks this is a magical fix and have ignored it, you are flat out making shit up.

If the season is going like crap why shouldn't the coach be accountable??

So you don't think that Griffin should be sacked and you don't think that Moylan should be 5/8???

Tom.

 

[umina panther]

Moylan is a 5/8 and Griffin should be sacked

 

[betcats]

So you don't think that Griffin should be sacked and you don't think that Moylan should be 5/8???

Tom.

That was not the question. Show me where anyone said it is a magical fix, or did you just make that up?

 

[umina panther]

People defending Griffin should go read the Griffin thread in the Broncos forum

 

[herbert henry1908]

Exactly.

The only answer these people want is to have Griffin sacked and Moylan wearing a six on his back. As if this will magically fix everything. When Gould didn't give them this answer they carry on. God knows the season is going like crap, but these people make it so much worse.

Tom.

Actually people have talked about much more than that, but sure boil it down to two points.

There's a clear growing awareness that Gould himself hasn't been making the best decisions of late.

Criticism of Griffin also goes deeper than a simple analysis that we aren't winning. Many of his faults have been pointed out, odd selections, failure to drop big name players, his repeating of mistakes from the Broncos, he doesn't admit any personal fault.

But yeah boil it down to two points & don't tackle anyone on the issues. Just call them moaners, keep it simple...

 

[betcats]

Actually people have talked about much more than that, but sure boil it down to two points.

There's a clear growing awareness that Gould himself hasn't been making the best decisions of late.

Criticism of Griffin also goes deeper than a simple analysis that we aren't winning. Many of his faults have been pointed out, odd selections, failure to drop big name players, his repeating of mistakes from the Broncos, he doesn't admit any personal fault.

But yeah boil it down to two points & don't tackle anyone on the issues. Just call them moaners, keep it simple...

Well said.

 

[betcats]

People defending Griffin should go read the Griffin thread in the Broncos forum

Exactly, everything we are whinging about in regards to Griffin the broncos fans were whinging about 3 years ago.

It's not just fans either, we have rugby league greats such as Brad Fittler and Darren Lockyer openly questioning our selections and tactics.

 

[umina panther]

Exactly, everything we are whinging about in regards to Griffin the broncos fans were whinging about 3 years ago.

It's not just fans either, we have rugby league greats such as Brad Fittler and Darren Lockyer openly questioning our selections and tactics.

Not sure if Freddy agreeing helps our credibility haha