Ayshford re-signs

[Magpies Forever]

I don't know about that, isn't Tinkler already doing that to Bennet? The next coach of the WT still needs a team to work with, in 2 to 3 yrs Ayshford could be a world beater, or at least a solid FG player & all coaches need them. Are you suggesting that he wont improve over the next few years, that doesn't make sense?

No, not suggesting that he wont improve. I'm sure he will remain a solid player and hopefuuly improve on that. I'm just questioning the length of the extension given Ayshford. Whilst agreeing to extending his contract and saying he is a good solid player who is potentially versatile, I question the 4 year extension bit of the contract. Maybe 2 years, even 3 to keep him linked to Teflon's time there since Teflon has plans for him. But since he is not a world beater, by his own admission, and just likes playing at WT with his current bunch of team mates, why tie the hands of a future coach by having an average player on such an extended contract? Hell, I wouldnt mind if he was on a 2 yr extn and then given a further 2 yrs. I just get nervous with really long term contracts for average players.

Maybe there was a financial deal for WT too good to be true but I doubt it.

 

[westie]

Can we get over the Balmain thing. Explain my man love for Farah, Bronson and Woods without including the fact that they're actually good players if you want to go down that line.

Ayshford offers nothing. Is physically and mentally weak. And is, if not despised, then taken with a grain of salt by most within the club whose job is is to judge footballing qualities. Although, some of those backroom staff were moved on, and some will move on to clubs with a greater pedigree for "real footballers".

Ayshford doesn't have good finishing skills, can't create something from nothing and never looks to place his winger. We don't need a Kangaroo as our right centre, but we do need an above average NRL footballer. Consider the top teams this year (All rep centres) and the premiership teams from the last few years (All rep centres). If we persist with an impotent right side, we'll continue to be a point short of defensive teams. Had say.... Tuiaki and a standard FG centre run that last play against the Dragons, we appear in the Grand Final. As it was.... well you guys saw what happened. And what happens every week. Aka... nothing.

 

[N.C.]

If we get a new coach who wants to take a broom to the place in 2014, player contracts wont really mean all that much.

 

[madunit]

Well I think its fair to say that over the past 2 seasons, Ayshford has been a better asset to his team then say Dean Collis has.

Locking Ayshford in long term, before other clubs come sniffing has probably helped us keep his asking price down quite considerably. Why not sign up a young centre on the cheap for a long term. It won't hurt too much IF his form slips etc

Much more preferable than paying a few 100k a year to a hooker to play halfback for 3 years.

 

[gronkathon]

Gibbs' injuries are compounding every year. He has thrashed his body completely

 

[R2Coupe]

Can we get over the Balmain thing. Explain my man love for Farah, Bronson and Woods without including the fact that they're actually good players if you want to go down that line.

Ayshford offers nothing. Is physically and mentally weak. And is, if not despised, then taken with a grain of salt by most within the club whose job is is to judge footballing qualities. Although, some of those backroom staff were moved on, and some will move on to clubs with a greater pedigree for "real footballers".

Ayshford doesn't have good finishing skills, can't create something from nothing and never looks to place his winger. We don't need a Kangaroo as our right centre, but we do need an above average NRL footballer. Consider the top teams this year (All rep centres) and the premiership teams from the last few years (All rep centres). If we persist with an impotent right side, we'll continue to be a point short of defensive teams. Had say.... Tuiaki and a standard FG centre run that last play against the Dragons, we appear in the Grand Final. As it was.... well you guys saw what happened. And what happens every week. Aka... nothing.

Watch the Roosters and Raider games from the finals. Ayshford held off Carney over 70 or so metres, a feat young Stewart Mills could not achieve last weekend, and he took responsibility for keeping Dugan quiet (and did this well).

Westie, I respct your passion for the Magpies and WTs but at times you need to stop and think about what you post. There is a lot of improvement in Ayshford and I have no doubt he will be an integral part of our team for years.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Can we get over the Balmain thing. Explain my man love for Farah, Bronson and Woods without including the fact that they're actually good players if you want to go down that line.

Ayshford offers nothing. Is physically and mentally weak. And is, if not despised, then taken with a grain of salt by most within the club whose job is is to judge footballing qualities. Although, some of those backroom staff were moved on, and some will move on to clubs with a greater pedigree for "real footballers".

Ayshford doesn't have good finishing skills, can't create something from nothing and never looks to place his winger. We don't need a Kangaroo as our right centre, but we do need an above average NRL footballer. Consider the top teams this year (All rep centres) and the premiership teams from the last few years (All rep centres). If we persist with an impotent right side, we'll continue to be a point short of defensive teams. Had say.... Tuiaki and a standard FG centre run that last play against the Dragons, we appear in the Grand Final. As it was.... well you guys saw what happened. And what happens every week. Aka... nothing.

thats great but what about fulton?

 

[westie]

Watch the Roosters and Raider games from the finals. Ayshford held off Carney over 70 or so metres, a feat young Stewart Mills could not achieve last weekend, and he took responsibility for keeping Dugan quiet (and did this well).

Westie, I respct your passion for the Magpies and WTs but at times you need to stop and think about what you post. There is a lot of improvement in Ayshford and I have no doubt he will be an integral part of our team for years.

My passion for the club ended a long time ago. Now I just enjoy watching footy. Which means I seem to be able to step back and watch footballers without giving them a big pump up because they play for my team. Ayshford wouldn't play for any other successful side in the league.

I know it. He knows it. The club (most of them) know it. His manager knows it. And the other clubs recruitment teams know it.

He's a decent low level young footy player. He'll get consistently better due to the undue attention he receives before he fizzles out - like most other players of his abilities. Sure, sign him up on a mid-term cheap deal if there's no one else.

Don't reward him with an enormously long deal when our forward pack is falling apart, we already have a number of average outside backs and our right side (his side) remains impotent.

 

[R2Coupe]

I can't agree with you. I believe any young player who can break the line as regularly as Ayshford is valuable. He did demonstrate a bit of flair on Saturday night. I think your words are extremely harsh.

 

[Tigerm]

Not sure about your thoughts on Ayshford, Westie, I agree with R2, I really can't see too much wrong with his game. I think he will develop into a great player for the WT's. May not be a rep player, but not every one will be? Did you have a specific instance for your dislike, or is it just a general thing you have on the guy?

 

[joel caine number 1 fan]

i dont believe hes a centre he plays way to much like a lock
and even at centre though he goes ok,hes a hard runner and takes 3-4 to put him down every time he gets the ball
if he can get a offload going he could be a very damaging ball runner

 

[macnaz]

Best value centre on the Market.. He just needs a descent winger to offload to

 

[westie]

Not sure about your thoughts on Ayshford, Westie, I agree with R2, I really can't see too much wrong with his game. I think he will develop into a great player for the WT's. May not be a rep player, but not every one will be? Did you have a specific instance for your dislike, or is it just a general thing you have on the guy?

I just don't think he's good enough. Especially when combined with a poor right winger. We couldn't score at all down that side last year and we aren't doing much better this year. Though, realistically, we aren't doing well anywhere with our left side out and Payten missing.

The way we play to the right, we need someone who can craft something from nothing, or who is completely sound defensively, if we can't afford an attacking player. The top teams aim to have strike centres on both sides.

There were plenty of reasons we weren't clobbering the Dragons last year, but had we had strike on the right, we'd have won in the last minute.

For an indication of what even the most mediocre attacking players can do when needed - check the finale to the 2004 7s semi for what's almost a replay of the last minutes against the Dragons last year.

 

[37916319]

For an indication of what even the most mediocre attacking players can do when needed - check the finale to the 2004 7s semi for what's almost a replay of the last minutes against the Dragons last year.

Is that a Typo?? Your seriously not comparing the 79th minute of a Prelim Final against the current St George team to the 13th Minute of 7s Semi in 2004.

The step (though against a retreating defence) and the strength to get through 3 defenders to score our first against Penrith would suggest Ayshford has the ability to become a very solid First Grader.

 

[madunit]

its a pretty good indication that Ayshford is a good player when westie rubbishes him.

 

[b.bear]

I dont get the bagging he is getting from some , he has been one of our more consistant players the last couple of seasons.He is a young player who is only going to get better with age he might have a mistake in him here and there but at least he has a go,unlike some.

 

[westie]

its a pretty good indication that Ayshford is a good player when westie rubbishes him.

How's Tim McGann going nuff nuff.

"Oh Westie doesn't like him because he has a vague association with the team formally known as Balmain"

 

[westie]

Is that a Typo?? Your seriously not comparing the 79th minute of a Prelim Final against the current St George team to the 13th Minute of 7s Semi in 2004.

The step (though against a retreating defence) and the strength to get through 3 defenders to score our first against Penrith would suggest Ayshford has the ability to become a very solid First Grader.

Yes, I am. While the stage was different, the play was identical. You saw the different results. Those players were try scorers, our current right side are not.

If Sheens himself hadn't scored that try, or set up his unmarked support players, I'd have been very surprised. As you said, it was a retreating defence. A piss weak retreating defence. They couldn't even get onside for the previous play despite that side of the field not having previously been involved in the set. The good work had already been done the play before.

 

[Fordy20]

I think it's an excellent signing. He's a good club man and given people are talking about moving Mitch Brown to the centres instead of Moltzen, it shows that he fills a hole in the depth of our side.

 

[Tigerm]

50 GAMES FOR BLAKE AYSHFORD
By Wayne Cousins


25/05/2011 4:08:42 PM

Quality young Wests Tigers centre Blake Ayshford will play his 50th game in the NRL when he lines up against St George Illawarra Dragons on Sunday, May 22, at WIN Jubilee Oval.
The milestone comes a week after the 23-year-old re-signed for a further three seasons with Wests Tigers. The new deal sees Ayshford at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2015 season.
After representing Australia in the Junior Kangaroos side of 2007, Ayshford rose through the Wests Tigers U20s ranks before making his NRL debut against the Brisbane Broncos at Campbelltown Sports Stadium in round 11 of the 2009 season.

http://www.weststigers.com.au/defau...ay&id=37203&title=50-games-for-blake-ayshford