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Bangladesh in NZ

Bazal

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It is frightening, but it's also staggering how poor modern international players (with very few exceptions in any teams) are at dealing with good, well directed short pitched bowling - this IMO is a cost of 20:20 and ODI cricket, they want to race along at 4 RPO or more, and if they can't attack a ball often they are left in horrible positions - they look to attack, then when it gets dicey they often turn away

Wait, so now it's T20s fault when a bloke gets lidded? LMAO...bowlers have been sconning batsmen since the game was invented. What can we blame T20 for next?

There are much bigger factors than T20 cricket in why batsmen get hit. Tbh there's not even really a noticeable increase over say the 90s. What is different is the fuss it causes when someone gets hit, because of Phil Hughes and because of the greater awareness of the seriousness of concussions. In the 90s or early 2000s Mushfiqur probably would have wandered off, had a shower, cleared his head, taken a few pills and come back to bat a bit later, if he even went off at all. Now it's off to hospital for scans and then a mandatory few days off for concussion, which is the right thing to do, but makes it seem so much more serious.

Justin Langer is a bit of a flog but he was bang on when they chatted to him on the BBL the other night. He would have scored a lot fewer runs in the modern era because he'd have had to come off after his dozens of head knocks....and he didn't play a T20 match until he was about 40 years old. Batsmen get hit because they are confident enough that getting hit will do them no lasting damage. Phil Hughes' absolute freak accident aside, your helmet will protect you. And this is probably the first and second generation of players that has always worn helmets their entire cricketing lives so they're used to having that safety net. Plus with restrictions on how many short balls you can bowl as a bowler, it really is a surprise ball these days that's aimed at the badge. There's not really anyone in world cricket you can bank on giving you a few throat balls an over like, say, Curtly Ambrose often would.

Anyway in this particular case the fact is most subcontinental players don't play the real short stuff all that well, and that was definitely evident with Mushfiqur.
 

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If I wanted someone to bat for my life I would choose kane.

Except if the opposition was England, Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, India or sri Lanka
 

JJ

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If I wanted someone to bat for my life I would choose kane.

Except if the opposition was England, Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, India or sri Lanka
average of 50 against Australia not enough for you? Or 92 against Sri Lanka, or 50 in the UAE...

At the end of the day he's scored 100's against every test playing nation and in every test playing nation except RSA - that's not shabby... and for the large part of his career he's been a kid batting three behind incompetent openers... he doesn't have the luxury of batting down the order like some lauded ones...
 

Bazal

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Bradmanson is a very good player but he only averages over 50 against Bangladesh (102), Sri Lanka (92), The Windies (52) and Zimbabwe (79). His average against Australia is 49 which is obviously very good, and then it's under 40 against everyone else.

Lets be 100% honest, if these stats were those of an Australian player JJ would be mocking him as a minnow basher.
 

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Bradmanson is a very good player.
Yep - should have just stopped there, the rest is nonsense

It's only obnoxious Australians that talk about minnows anyway, and as I pointed out he has scored a 100 away against every test nation except RSA where he toured very early and had a short weather affected series recently, and most are still small samples - if you want to believe he's a minnow basher, good for you - he's shown he can bat in all conditions against all attacks, simple really
 

Bazal

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Yep - should have just stopped there, the rest is nonsense

It's only obnoxious Australians that talk about minnows anyway, and as I pointed out he has scored a 100 away against every test nation except RSA where he toured very early and had a short weather affected series recently, and most are still small samples - if you want to believe he's a minnow basher, good for you - he's shown he can bat in all conditions against all attacks, simple really

There seems to be an awful lot of unexplained wooshing sounds around here lately...
 

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Kane is more crucial to NZ's chances than Smith is to Australia's chances because Australia have Smith and Khawaja and (now) Handscomb, whereas we have Henry Nicholls.

For mine, Smith and Kohli are obviously #1 and 2. Williamson is batting Root for #3.
 

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Lol. Drama queen. If that pretty minor head knock worried Bangladesh to the point that they lost because of it they don't deserve to be international cricketers.
You wouldn't be saying that if it turned out to be worse.

Everyone really worries more now on field after what happened to Hughes.
 

Bazal

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You wouldn't be saying that if it turned out to be worse.

Everyone really worries more now on field after what happened to Hughes.

Hughes was an absolute freak accident that will likely never happen again in my lifetime (I'd say yours too but I'd guess you're about 11 years old so who knows?). He died on the pitch, his heart stopped and they worked on him in the outfield for a long time. The Bangladesh team would have known straight away that Mushfiqur was ok and was being taken for precautionary scans. If you truly believe international cricketers are that mentally weak that they disintegrate because their captain has a concussion, then I have to wonder why you even bother watching the game
 

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Hughes was an absolute freak accident that will likely never happen again in my lifetime (I'd say yours too but I'd guess you're about 11 years old so who knows?). He died on the pitch, his heart stopped and they worked on him in the outfield for a long time. The Bangladesh team would have known straight away that Mushfiqur was ok and was being taken for precautionary scans. If you truly believe international cricketers are that mentally weak that they disintegrate because their captain has a concussion, then I have to wonder why you even bother watching the game
You still don't know if he's ok a couple of minutes after. He could have been affected 24hrs after.
 

Bazal

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You still don't know if he's ok a couple of minutes after. He could have been affected 24hrs after.

Lol. He was breathing, he was conscious, the helmet clearly took the blow rather than any exposed ares of his head. They knew he was concussed and sore but otherwise ok. Stop making up bullshit excuses for the fact that they blew it. They sure as hell won't be
 

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When Banglaplod scored almost 600 in the 1st innings i had like 4 months worth of troll material prepared for our Kiwi friends thinking they would win,these idiots ruined 4 months worth of greatness.

I hate you Banglaplod
And i had four months worth of replied lol
 

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