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Beccy displaying her pure and utter hatred of Rugby League

Drew-Sta

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I think I've just found the motivation to (a) revive my not very read blog ( my last entry being a Bec related blog which I should print out and frame) and (b) actually study to become a journalist. This sort of bias and slander shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged.

I hate to dull your intent but to become a journo with some span of influence would require you to work for News Limited or Fairfax and I can guarantee you no 'unbiased' journo exists in either of those corporations as they don't write enough 'tabloid' articles.

A better bet is to invest in a small media corporation and try to groom your own newspaper. Outlandish I know, but I doubt there's a straight journo left that is employed by News or Fairfax.
 

Gippsy

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LOL and today the AFL is embroiled in a race scandal after an "AFL legend" called Aborigines cannibals.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cannibal-gibe-sparks-new-afl-race-row-20100616-ygdk.html

hahahahah great timing Bec. "Imagine if this was the AFL." lol owned.


okay Bec, time to go to town on the AFL. Yeah, right..

The funny thing in Victoria this story will be forgotten about tomorrow. In todays Herald Sun there is the small article on the front page, but no follow up pieces in the sports section. Their sport confidential does have a light hearted story about the dinner where this happened, "no shortage of laughs & stories", including a picture of blokes laughing & clapping, including the fella who made the racist comments!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/legendary-moments/story-e6frf9jf-1225880604769

Unbelievable the difference in how events are reported in the 2 games.
 

nqcowboy87

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Cannibal slur leaves bad taste at AFL lunch
June 17, 2010

AS A racism furore engulfs rugby league, Australian rules has again shown it is not rid of such prejudices either.

At an AFL function in Melbourne yesterday, the West Australian football legend Mal Brown referred to indigenous players - including one of the AFL's most famous, Nicky Winmar - as ''cannibals''.

Referring to poor ground lighting at some matches, he said: ''It actually disadvantaged us. We couldn't pick any of the cannibals. Nicky Winmar, Michael Mitchell. We didn't even get any white shirts to put on them.''

Brown's comments prompted some laughter in the room. But the MC, the former Melbourne star Garry Lyon, was embarrassed. ''You've just put us on the back page of every paper tomorrow,'' he said.

When contacted after the lunch, Lyon said: ''You can't control everyone. Everyone needs to take responsibility for things they do and say in this world these days, and Mal's big enough and old enough to understand that.''

On the way out of the function, Brown pointed at newspaper reporters and said: ''Don't you go writing what I said about those aborigines.''

The former Essendon player Simon Madden, the past players' representative on the AFL Players' Association's executive, said Brown's comments were ''uneducated''.

Brown did not respond to calls last night.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/cannibal-slur-leaves-bad-taste-at-afl-lunch-20100616-ygmi.html


im betting that this wont be backpage news though, itll be an article in the back pages and die away in a couple of weeks like the afl teenage rape scandal, when jarryd hayen was shot at he was really doing nothin wrong but the papaers ran with that stgory for weeks saying league players where out of control:?
 

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This morning the first story I read was the "cannibal" article.

Then I click on this thread, read her first sentence "JUST for one minute, imagine this happened in the AFL in 2010."

I lol'd at first but then realised the AFL matter won't be in the news for the next week and get front and back coverage in the papers.
Nor will a stuck up mole like herself write an article about how the AFL is in many ways exactly the same as the NRL and how everyone in the AFL is just a bunch of pots calling a kettle (NRL) black (no pun intended).
 

fourplay

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okay Bec, time to go to town on the AFL. Yeah, right..

The funny thing in Victoria this story will be forgotten about tomorrow. In todays Herald Sun there is the small article on the front page, but no follow up pieces in the sports section. Their sport confidential does have a light hearted story about the dinner where this happened, "no shortage of laughs & stories", including a picture of blokes laughing & clapping, including the fella who made the racist comments!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/legendary-moments/story-e6frf9jf-1225880604769

Unbelievable the difference in how events are reported in the 2 games.

And the headline on The Age is "No malice in 'racial slur'." A headline like that might have been nice for Johns.
 

gUt

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Tahu has even been privately accused by some league administrators of being "soft", a pretty typical response from a core element in the sport who still steadfastly believe in the White Australia policy.

How is she able to print stuff like this without quotes/citations/evidence?
 

Brutus

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Tahu has even been privately accused by some league administrators of being "soft", a pretty typical response from a core element in the sport who still steadfastly believe in the White Australia policy.

What an absolutely disgraceful thing to suggest.

While ever rugby league is part-owned by the media company she writes for, I suppose she can say what she likes and get away it.

Her partner is the CEO of News LTD so she can write what she god damn well pleases.

She could call all rugby league people murderers and get away with it.

It's a pathetic situation. The whole thing.
 

El Diablo

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This morning the first story I read was the "cannibal" article.

Then I click on this thread, read her first sentence "JUST for one minute, imagine this happened in the AFL in 2010."

and this quote is from Beccy's article

The repugnant days of Mal Brown running around with "cannibals" have long been consigned to history

:lol:
 
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Consigned to history? Oh... it was yesterday!

BTW, the back page of the Hurrld in Melbourne had a picture of both Garry Tablett Snr & Jnr (Known druggie and murder suspect and his son.)

All smiles, spruiking their new merchandising venture, and asking for privacy while Tablett Jnr was considering his move to the Gold Coast Gazzas.


As if the racist AFL Cannibal story was going to be on the back page. LOL.
 

El Diablo

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Consigned to history? Oh... it was yesterday!

BTW, the back page of the Hurrld in Melbourne had a picture of both Garry Tablett Snr & Jnr (Known druggie and murder suspect and his son.)

All smiles, spruiking their new merchandising venture, and asking for privacy while Tablett Jnr was considering his move to the Gold Coast Gazzas.


As if the racist AFL Cannibal story was going to be on the back page. LOL.

just remember the Vic media tried to bury the Fevola story till this site broke the news http://www.vexnews.com/news/6719/cage-this-beast-brendan-fevolas-sexual-assault-exposed/

and you wonder why things are hushed up for AFL

The woman – who attended the Brownlow Medal event – is thought to be unlikely to want to make a complaint because it might adversely effect her career or her reputation in the football world. That’s a remarkable reflection on modern football, if true.
 
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I can't actually see what the problem is with her article, except at the margins. Its mostly ok ... I think a lot of you are blinded by your hatred of Wilson, and general conspiracy paranoia. :shock:

Taking what she says, what is not actually true?

AFL rules in code battle

* Rebecca Wilson
* From: Herald Sun
* June 17, 2010 12:00AM

JUST for one minute, imagine this happened in the AFL in 2010.

A senior assistant coach - a football legend - attends a team bonding session. He has a few too many beers and tells those in attendance that they must target the black c--- from the opposition during this week's big match. He also has a crack at players of Polynesian heritage and other indigenous members of the opposing team.
The first bit is not disputed by anyone really. The second may or may not have happened, depending who you believe. Given that Tahu denies it, it is probably an exaggeration of how bad Johns behaviour was.

An indigenous player who listens to the rant leaves the team camp in disgust. He has had enough of racial vilification over a long period of time. This is not the first time he has heard racist taunts from the same bloke.
This is what Tahu is saying happened.

The team managers decide on a cover-up. They are set to announce the player has a hamstring injury. He sneaks out of the camp and they bring another replacement player in through a side entrance to hide his presence from the media.
Basically true.

It is only when the media gets hold of the story that the assistant coach is finally caught out. He resigns the camp in disgrace.
Again, quite true.

The player refuses to return to the camp, but instead issues a home-made video explaining why he had no choice but to make a stand against the endemic problem of racism.
Completely factual.

This actually happened in NSW this week. The team in question is the NSW State of Origin rugby league side, an elite football team aspired to by every young kid who plays the code.

The squad was preparing for Wednesday night's match against Queensland, the biggest series on the league calendar each year.
Again, pretty basic and straightforward facts.

While the National Rugby League announced it does have a mediation policy in place (nobody in the NSW media was aware of such a policy until this week), it is powerless to intervene because although it is the governing body of the sport, it does not actually run State of Origin football.
This seems correct. I have no idea whether the NRL does or doesn't have a policy as she says, nor whether anyone actually knew about it. However, it is true that the ARL runs SOO not the NRL.

Sound strange? Welcome to the world of rugby league.

While those close to league accept with resignation the chaotic nature of the sport's administration, big backers of the code acknowledge that this week's racism, and the shambolic response to it from senior figures in the sport, is another example of why rugby league will never challenge the AFL as the nation's premier football code.
I don't think anyone would deny the administration of league is a dog's breakfast, nor that the response to the Tahu/Johns stuff has been well handled by league officials.

OK, the last sentence reflects a bias, but its an opinion shared by approx 50% of Australia.

As one very senior businessman said recently, rugby league is a game played by wharfies, watched by wharfies and run by wharfies.
Someone's opinion, and not one I think is terribly far off the mark.

Conversely, the AFL transcends class, is played by every kid in the southern states of Australia (and a growing number in Queensland and NSW) and run by real businessmen with a genuine corporate culture.
Again, not much to argue with here. Might dispute the growing numbers in Qld and NSW. You look at the boards of the AFL and its clubs and the big end of town is much more involved than with the NRL.

Andrew Demetriou, CEO of the AFL, is clever, often ruthless and extremely process-driven. He is backed by a commission that boasts a balance of Melbourne business, sporting interests and industry leaders. They are united as one in trying to make the code bigger, stronger and wealthier./
You might not share her opinion of Demetriou but those that pay his salary are obviously happy with the job he does, and the business performance of the AFL reflects that he seems to be doing a good job.

The National Rugby League, by contrast, runs only part of the game. The NRL boss, David Gallop, juggles a mish-mash of blazer-wearing dinosaurs, five boards and disparate interests constantly engaged in power struggles that nobody ever really wins.
Does anyone seriously want to argue that the administration of league is much different to this? I think about 90% of posts on this forum about league administration are sh*tcanning it.

While the push is on for an independent commission, the in-fighting and brawling has put a halt to such negotiations for months.
Seems true enough.

The badly managed NSW team is a living, breathing example of why the game must change, or face extinction.
OK, this is her opinion, but its hard to deny the NSW team is badly managed, and that things must change. The bit about facing extinction I will agree is an exaggerration.

While the AFL has had a mediation policy in place since the 1990s for instances of racial vilification, the body that controls representative football in league, the Australian Rugby League, has no such thing.
As far as I'm aware this is true.

The repugnant days of Mal Brown running around with "cannibals" have long been consigned to history by the strong measures put in place by the AFL over the past three decades.
This is debateable. Yes the AFL has put measures in place but whether they've eradicated racism is debateable. Adam Goodes and others seem to think it is still there to some extent.

The AFL's attitude to its indigenous players is a revelation compared with league. These young athletes are embraced, their communities are celebrated and their talents are held in awe by all who follow Aussie rules.
Don't know - don't follow AFL closely enough.

Those close to league acknowledge there has been little change in racist attitudes for decades. There can be no doubt they are right when a senior coach, two former champion players (the team managers) and Andrew Johns obviously colluded to cover up the sorry events at an elite team camp.
Don't know about the first bit. Personally I don't think racism is endemic in the sport. The last part of what she says looks to be true.

Johns, a former champion player turned assistant coach, resigned from the team this week for his appalling comments. He was not sacked.
True.

In fact, the team managers said "Joey" Johns was "shattered" by the events in the camp.

They were serious, too. How can modern administrators of professional sport possibly turn disgraceful, rampant racism into some sort of martyrdom for the perpetrator?
OK, this is laying it on a bit thick. I think its not impossible for people to condemn Johns' words without condemning him as a person. I would question what Johns is shattered by - his words, their impact on Tahu, or the embarassment that this all went public?

The player who made the stand, Timana Tahu, says this is not the first time Johns has made racist remarks. A proud Aboriginal and Maori, Tahu said he walked out because he was sick of the constant racist remarks that came out of Johns' mouth.
This is just reporting what Tahu has said.

While the AFL would have forced both men into mediation, and probably punished Johns, no such thing has happened this week.
Pretty much true, although there may have been some logistical circumstances that made it difficult for this to happen. (But then if it was important enough for the league, they would have made it happen regardless of any excuses.)

Tahu has even been privately accused by some league administrators of being "soft", a pretty typical response from a core element in the sport who still steadfastly believe in the White Australia policy.
Don't know about league administrators but I've certainly seen plenty of sentiment on this forum and other places which back this up.

THE ARL formed an uneasy partnership with News Limited (the publishers of this newspaper) more than a decade ago. This disparate group became the National Rugby League. Remarkably, the NRL does not control the jewel in the league's crown - representative football.

When David Gallop was asked by a Melbourne-based journalist this week why he had not said much about the Johns drama, he had to point out that he has no say over what happens in Origin football. Unbelievable but true.

Without delving too deeply into the political minefield that is league, suffice to say that the constant controversies, scandals and dramas are not helped by the uneasy truce at the top of the game.
Nothing here that seems to be untrue.

Meanwhile, Demetriou visited Sydney last week for the announcement of a $45 million stadium for the new Greater Western Sydney team. He saw at least half a dozen members of the Sydney media, looked them in the eye and faced criticism over the Israel Folau signing.
Don't know anything about this, but assume these events did happen.

He did it with focus and self-belief - an administrator of a big, successful business. The AFL has long ago said goodbye to blazer-wearers, jobs for the boys and dinosaur policies.
Her opinion of Demetriou and the AFL. She's entitled to it, and the evidence of their performance seems to support it.

Rugby league will remain in its own backwater while the grab for those blazers continues. The joke among the Sydney league media is that despite the shocking chain of events in the NSW team camp, they all agree the same people will manage and coach the side next year.
I don't think anyone seriously denies that league is poorly served by its administration and needs to change. As for the joke, sadly its quite likely true.

That's the way it is in league - excuse bad behaviour, have another beer and always remember the old saying: "Deny, deny, deny."
Basically true, but also applies often to the AFL.

So given all that I don't see there's much to whinge about in her article.
 
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the AFL stooge would see no problem with it

like anyone expected differently :lol:

Wow, intelligent response. OK, what exactly is wrong with what she is saying?

Apart from the fact that she's saying it, and you're reading it through the prism of the conspiracy theory you have about the media.
 

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