Best 17 going forward as from next week

[chrisD]

Hahaha wow your delusion knows no bounds, you continually blame every issue on RCG.

I was wrong about RCG playing origin I am happy to admit that unlike yourself who wont admit you are wrong about anything no matter how obvious it is, in fact you go the other way and imply anyone who disagrees with you just doesn't know anywhere near as much as you, even the most clear evidence that your opinion is wrong is explained away with some bull shit excuse such as above, you are truly full of shit IMO. You still think Bryce's best position is the halves? I remember you argued to death last season, hows that going? Probably RCGs fault that Bryce is throwing intercepts and forwards passes each week right?

Bryce's best attacking position is in the halves and he was the best option at 6 at the back end of last season because we were coming into the finals and it was too late to switch Moylan into 6 and switch in a new FB, we missed the chance when we could make that change. It was at the time the best option. Find me a contradictory post and I'll admit I was wrong. The same as when RCG/Tamou turn into a worthy starting front row combination.

Now are you going to really try and fall back on those tackle breaks as evidence that RCG isn't, in the words of Ennis who might know a thing or two about such things, "a very one dimensional player"? They were made in the second stints in games we had lost when we were throwing caution to the wind. Do you doubt this? I know the stat pages won't tell you that so you actually have to rely on your memory and eyes, or having watched the game closely in the first place, so I'd suggest you're better off just taking it from me. Or do you somehow think it's irrelevant? What would be your argument for that? Still, it was good to see, and if he added some of it to his game when the game is still in the balance he'd begin to get somewhere and so might we in games he starts.

Oh I remembered something I was wrong about, I was happy we signed Tamou. More than happy to admit that was f**king stupid of me.

 

[betcats]

Bryce's best attacking position is in the halves and he was the best option at 6 at the back end of last season because we were coming into the finals and it was too late to switch Moylan into 6 and switch in a new FB, we missed the chance when we could make that change. It was at the time the best option. Find me a contradictory post and I'll admit I was wrong. The same as when RCG/Tamou turn into a worthy starting front row combination.

Now are you going to really try and fall back on those tackle breaks as evidence that RCG isn't, in the words of Ennis who might know a thing or two about such things, "a very one dimensional player"? They were made in the second stints in games we had lost when we were throwing caution to the wind. Do you doubt this? I know the stat pages won't tell you that so you actually have to rely on your memory and eyes, or having watched the game closely in the first place, so I'd suggest you're better off just taking it from me. Or do you somehow think it's irrelevant? What would be your argument for that? Still, it was good to see, and if he added some of it to his game when the game is still in the balance he'd begin to get somewhere and so might we in games he starts.

One dimensional? He is a prop, he runs forward that's his job. Jesse f**king Bromwich is one dimensional as well, doesn't stop him from being one of if not the best prop in the game.

Oh and if we are going to start using commentators opinions I can point you to the many times Sterlo(amongst others) has talked up RCG. Im sure he knows what he is talking about also.

 

[herbert henry1908]

He was top offloader last year too though. Different type of player then all those mentioned

Sure but someone his size should be getting good meters per run, just because he knows how to offload doesn't mean he can't bend the line. He's soft for his size.

Trent Merrin was 4th top offloader last year and he still managed good meters per run.

 

[chrisD]

One dimensional? He is a prop, he runs forward that's his job. Jesse f**king Bromwich is one dimensional as well, doesn't stop him from being one of if not the best prop in the game.

Oh and if we are going to start using commentators opinions I can point you to the many times Sterlo(amongst others) has talked up RCG. Im sure he knows what he is talking about also.

I don't think Sterlo really does when it comes to props in the modern game, certainly nothing like Ennis does.

His job should be gaining us momentum and it gets a lot easier with some variation and some craftiness in the play the ball, he is one dimensional compared to other props, which was the point Ennis was actually making.

 

[mxlegend99]

Bryce's best attacking position is in the halves and he was the best option at 6 at the back end of last season because we were coming into the finals and it was too late to switch Moylan into 6 and switch in a new FB, we missed the chance when we could make that change. It was at the time the best option. Find me a contradictory post and I'll admit I was wrong. The same as when RCG/Tamou turn into a worthy starting front row combination.

Now are you going to really try and fall back on those tackle breaks as evidence that RCG isn't, in the words of Ennis who might know a thing or two about such things, "a very one dimensional player"? They were made in the second stints in games we had lost when we were throwing caution to the wind. Do you doubt this? I know the stat pages won't tell you that so you actually have to rely on your memory and eyes, or having watched the game closely in the first place, so I'd suggest you're better off just taking it from me. Or do you somehow think it's irrelevant? What would be your argument for that? Still, it was good to see, and if he added some of it to his game when the game is still in the balance he'd begin to get somewhere and so might we in games he starts.

Oh I remembered something I was wrong about, I was happy we signed Tamou. More than happy to admit that was f**king stupid of me.

Bryce has never been a good option at 6. He tries too hard and f**ks up more often than not. He has good moments. But even the worst halves tend to have a few highlights in a game.

Moylan carried our halves last year after Origin 3. He was coming in at first and second receiver and making things happen. This worked well when Carty was not trying to be the playmaker and instead was happy to take hitups with an offload or short pass thrown in when he felt it was on. Hes an instinct player and as a 6 he tries to make things happen every touch which isnt possible.

That is Cartwrights best use. Running forward trying to get in between defenders. He is big. He is strong and always has the arm free. Let him roam both sides still. Get Peachey, Blake and DWZ running off him and they have the size, speed and strength to punish teams from his offloads. Or if Bryce attracts enough attention. He can put them away. Or Bryce miggt even bust through himself.

His best games last year he managed to do that. It wasnt overly fancy. But it was extremely effective.

 

[betcats]

I don't think Sterlo really does when it comes to props in the modern game, certainly nothing like Ennis does.

His job should be gaining us momentum and it gets a lot easier with some variation and some craftiness in the play the ball, he is one dimensional compared to other props, which was the point Ennis was actually making.

He is one dimensional compared to Fifita but most props are, you want him to be something he is not. He cant catch and pass like Latu or Graham and he isn't as mobile as Fifita, but you can say that for most props.

For all your talk of variation etc Latu had his best game for us all year when he put the passing and shit away and just ran forward. Tamou's best performances for us have been when he forgot about trying to offload and just ran forward.

 

[chrisD]

He is one dimensional compared to Fifita but most props are, you want him to be something he is not. He cant catch and pass like Latu or Graham and he isn't as mobile as Fifita, but you can say that for most props.

For all your talk of variation etc Latu had his best game for us all year when he put the passing and shit away and just ran forward. Tamou's best performances for us have been when he forgot about trying to offload and just ran forward.

This is just shit, there's all kinds of props out there with all kinds of abilities and RCG as he has performed isn't anywhere near the top end of the spectrum and never has been. I don't want him to be something he's not, I want him to be in the role that suits what he is.

There's a whole last season that showed what Latu is capable of.

 

[betcats]

This is just shit, there's all kinds of props out there with all kinds of abilities and RCG as he has performed isn't anywhere near the top end of the spectrum and never has been. I don't want him to be something he's not, I want him to be in the role that suits what he is.

There's a whole last season that showed what Latu is capable of.

What are you talking about, anything good RCG does you just completely ignore or try to explain away with some bullshit excuse or you just move the goalposts when something becomes to silly for even you to defend. Last season he was to much of plodder who would just hit the line and fall over and now because you cant hit him with that without looking ridiculous he is too 'one dimensional' and doesn't have enough variation in his play the ball(whatever that means) as if we need another forward out there thinking he is a half or back going sideways and trying ball play and offload and every chance. All year we have been crying out for our forwards to just run hard and out of the middle rotation RCG is the only who has done that each week.

 

[chrisD]

Being a plodder who just hits the line, gets put down and takes too long to play the ball is his one dimension. And I for one am sure as f**k not crying out for more of it.

This nonsense, "we don't play direct enough", "or our forwards don't just run straight and hard", "we play too ad-lib".

You're not the only one saying this shit and I just have to wonder what the f**k you people are watching. Feels like it's a case of commentators just having repeated this shit so much that for two decades that it's infected your brains and it's all you can think. All RCG and Tamou have done by and large is run f**king straight. The rest too. We have been a one out hit-up merchant team, especially in the first half.

How the f**k has that been working out for us?

Come second halves, and particularly those parts of second halves where we look ok, it's when we are actually playing with the least amount of structure and straight hit ups.

 

[betcats]

Being a plodder who just hits the line, gets put down and takes too long to play the ball is his one dimension. And I for one am sure as f**k not crying out for more of it.

That's great Chris.

 

[PenrithPanther45]

For anyone who cannot see it, Wallace 4-6 weeks, Cartwright out indefinitely possibly in need of surgery.

 

[betcats]

Well that sucks. We will find out in a couple weeks what is happening with tmm I guess.

 

[umina panther]

Yuck Rein in first grade

 

[TheFrog]

Well that sucks. We will find out in a couple weeks what is happening with tmm I guess.

Mansour is due back next game. This means someone from the backline has to be dropped. It comes down to Hiku or Whare. So do you drop Hiku or Whare while bringing TMM in, or do you move Moylan to 6? And if its the lasster who plays fullback?

I think now is the time to switch Moylan. It is the least disruptive solution.

 

[MrBlack]

Silver lining (maybe not the 9 but may prove a capable replacement)....

1. Edwards
2. Mansour
3. Peachy
4. Blake
5. DWZ

6. Moylan
7. Cleary

9. Rein

It's like the Great Wall of China - you can see it from the moon. Let's hope Griffin can see it as well.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Trouble is, you can't see the Great Wall from the moon.

 

[Tronald Crump]

Griffin won't pick Moylan at 5/8 he hasn't done so yet so why start now? He will probably channel Brian Smith and pick Hiku there instead. Anything to keep his buddy in firsts.
Don't laugh its entirely possible with his mind.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yeah I'll be stunned if Moylan is 5/8

If TMM comes back we can certainly put to bed those rumours.

I could see him playing Peachey at 5/8

 

[franklin2323]

Rein has looked too good for NSW Cup hopefully that means he is back to decent form. Have enough options if he is shit.

5/8th is the one that is easier to fix. We scored 5 tries with Latu at 6. Moylan/Cleary will do everything anyway. I would go Peachey then Hiku ( assuming he stays) doing Peachey's bench role. Looks less disruption that way

 

[herbert henry1908]

Peachey will get in Moylans way at 5/8.

If Moylan doesn't move it just needs someone who will catch & pass.