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Big News - 6 about to be dropped

Meth

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Witness accounts indicate stood down NZ Warriors players may not have been as rowdy as their subsequent punishments might suggest.

Six players - Manu Vatuvei, Ben Matulino, Bodene Thompson, Konrad Hurrell, Sam Lisone and Albert Vete - were dropped to the reserve grade side after heading out in central Auckland on Tuesday night after the team arrived home following their 42-0 thrashing from the Melbourne Storm on Monday.

Some of the players were late to a meeting on Wednesday, leading the club to investigate.

The players ended their night at Irish pub Danny Doolans in Auckland's viaduct, a venue where many nights on the town end up, known for a raging dance floor and live music seven nights a week.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...ors-players-were-quiet-drinking-energy-drinks

Again, I would have been happy if only the players that turned up late were punished
 

Big Marn

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11631802

Chris Rattue: Time for Warriors to swing the axe on Shaun Johnson


Time for the Warriors to start afresh, to build a club full of the right attitude, yet again.

Time to swing the axe. This purge must start at the top. These are the players whose contracts need to be cut.

Manu Vatuvei

Represents much that has been both wonderful and bad at the Warriors. A power wing almost like no other. But his mistakes have been legendary, his defensive mis-reads a continual concern. The Warriors need to move on from his way.

Allowing younger members of the club to be caught out in his company socialising in the wee hours, with the Melbourne embarrassment fresh in the air, indicates his head is not in the right place.

The Warriors would miss his powerful re-starts, but there are far more athletic wings aplenty who score tries out of nothing. The Warriors have to believe they can un-earth players of that ilk.



The 30-year-old's time is up. It's time to thank the big man for all he has given, celebrate the good times, and let him go.

One thing which makes Wayne Bennett a coaching supremo is knowing when to let legendary veterans go, and having the strength of character to do something about it. Cue Andrew McFadden.

Shaun Johnson

A massive call, but one that has to be made. How long can any club wait for a bloke to prove he has the toughness to be a central playmaker every week.
Goes completely missing at times. Johnson is not a small bloke, but gets away with being a defensive nightmare and there is no room on the field for that anymore.

It's time for Tui Lolohea to be given his shot. (From a pure league lover's point of view, it would be amazing to watch Johnson reach his true peak somewhere, if he can.) The social pages would miss him in Auckland, but I wouldn't. Not anymore...and it's hard to believe it has come to this point for one of the most amazing players you will ever see at his best.

Look at the way Johnathan Thurston drove the Cowboys to the NRL title last year with a single-minded fury. Check out the relentless training and performances of the Melbourne superstars. Recall the ferocious competitiveness of "spine" players past, men like Geoff Toovey, Matthew Ridge, Allan Langer, Andrew Johns and on and on and on. Look at the up and comers making the absolute most of their abilities, like Cowboy Michael Morgan.

The NRL is a tough business, for sure. But that's what it takes, and that's what the Warriors must find.

Issac Luke

One of the dud buys of all time so far. To turn up for the new season under-prepared is unforgivable, infuriating. I believe his presence has been central to the chaos. He was there to lead the team, but has led them astray by example.

Virtually asked McFadden and Kiwis coach Steve Kearney to drop him last week - what does that say to the younger players? There was something admirably honest but annoyingly defeatist in that response. This is a time to show fight and desperation.

Konrad Hurrell

A waste of considerable space and negative influence. Re-tweeting criticism of his coach should be an automatically sack-able offence, especially given his history.

To let him stay would be a debilitating sign of weak management. Time to kiss goodbye a bloke who blows kisses off his hand when he gets handed tries by his team mates.

Hurrell was a potential world beater who has retained so many deficiencies in his game it's hard to know where to start. Has already plummeted through the thin ice he was skating on.

Jonathan Wright/Blake Ayshford/Jeff Robson

Maybe a couple of these blokes have seen much better days. But the Warriors must aim higher than where these Aussie journeymen are now. The Warriors do need some Aussies, but only those at or near the peak of their game or with exceptional promise.

How - with all the raw talent available in Auckland - does a player like Wright end up on the wing.

The player I'd like to sack (out of frustration) but can't quite do it yet is...

Ben Matulino

He has been sensational at times, a candidate as the best prop in the NRL. Then goes off the boil, to a degree that he barely justifies a place in first grade. Just can't figure him out, but he's too good, has had too many great games, to let go. Come on Ben. You are a great player. Now be a leader. Otherwise, goodbye Ben as well.

End of article.

Yes, well Mr Rattue is well known for stirring the pot so this is no surprise. Interestingly he was the one doing the live blog on the herald website for yesterdays game so he would have seen the effort of the boys.
 
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THis story is much bigger than we've been told. Something about to leak out today will put it in perspective...... think 2014 WC final.
 
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Turns out Hurrell was the sober driver and the only one not to take the pills. All 5 mixed pills with red bull, copying the exact issue from 2014.
 

Dr Crane

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Hell. If Konrad was the "good guy" in this....it's just tragic.

Sack the rest. On the spot. Didn't deserve an NSW Cup chook shoot as a farewell.
 
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Seriously, move them on. Leaders of the club my ass. We need to rub this mixing drugs and energy drinks culture out of NZ rugby league.

They won't play for the kiwis again either.
 

Iron Lion

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FFS!! How stupid can you be!

I mean MANU is a senior leader FFS - DUMB DUMB DUMB

Thompson - what a knob, he became a starter at the Warriors.

I now believe some of these guys are just straight up stupid
 
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Again, a coach can't put in what god left out.

These guys are thick. I'd keep the young 2 (Vete and Lisone) on a final warning and move the other 3 in leadership positions on. Good luck in the superleague fellas.
 

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