Board Elections

[bigfoot]

you are off the mark. Staff are not allowed to vote. Members of the footy club are the only members that can vote - season ticket holders cannot vote unless they are members as defined by the constitution of the footy club. claiming that the board rigs voting is libelous and I'd suggest league unlimited should think about what they allow on this forum.

4 posts in one and a half years, all about the board.
Are you a member of the board or something? :lol: A member of staff?

 

[LeagueLegend]

we are being told in order to change the constitution to allow football club members to vote would cost to much.But i wonder who paid for the how to vote cards naming current board members given to employees.

It wasn't just the current board handing out how to vote cards. Some "Vote for Change" cards were found in some interesting places during the election campaign. Were either group better than the other in shaping the vote..... no.

 

[murraymob]

you are off the mark. Staff are not allowed to vote. Members of the footy club are the only members that can vote - season ticket holders cannot vote unless they are members as defined by the constitution of the footy club. claiming that the board rigs voting is libelous and I'd suggest league unlimited should think about what they allow on this forum.

darkbloom are you a board member.Did it take a internet comment to get you to take a interest in the supporters.Either way time to move on election done.Bring on the footy.
This should please you i am going into the supporters store in high street and no doubt leaving with a empty wallet some great stuff in the store will not be able to help myself

 

[Dave Q]

It was too late in the day for the challengers to do much.

They needed to run a full-on campaign over several months like R2K did with the dragons.

Same old guys running the joint, same mistakes, same questionable signings, same unusual coaching, same depression and gut-wrenching misery. In other words, business as usual.

And the people have unintelligently voted for more of the same.

You are odds on for last place in 2010. I hope not but thats what people are saying.

Sons and daughters of my beloved catchment, neighbours and friends, this is sad news.

A poverty of the soul, the catchment is a player wasteland. It is barren and decaying everywhere one looks. Not a hope in sight.

Young kids will want to support other clubs and thats a tragedy.

A pefect environment for those godless AFL heathens too.

 

[darkbloom]

I am not a board member and I believe that change is desperately needed. We need a younger more dynamic Board and we need some women represented.

But there is no way you can get change by being stupid or insulting or by creating lies about those running the place.

It does not surpirse me that there was no change because there was no quality options for voters.

It does surpirse me that League unlimited allows libel.

Even though I have few posts. Even if I was a staff member or a Board member. It does not alter the fact of what I have wrote.

 

[murraymob]

It was too late in the day for the challengers to do much.

They needed to run a full-on campaign over several months like R2K did with the dragons.

Same old guys running the joint, same mistakes, same questionable signings, same unusual coaching, same depression and gut-wrenching misery. In other words, business as usual.

And the people have unintelligently voted for more of the same.

You are odds on for last place in 2010. I hope not but thats what people are saying.

Sons and daughters of my beloved catchment, neighbours and friends, this is sad news.

A poverty of the soul, the catchment is a player wasteland. It is barren and decaying everywhere one looks. Not a hope in sight.

Young kids will want to support other clubs and thats a tragedy.

A pefect environment for those godless AFL heathens too.

have to disagree Dave some good signings Alex Melvile joining the coaching staff i am very confident of a good year

 

[Fein]

I am not a board member and I believe that change is desperately needed. We need a younger more dynamic Board and we need some women represented.

But there is no way you can get change by being stupid or insulting or by creating lies about those running the place.

It does not surpirse me that there was no change because there was no quality options for voters.

It does surpirse me that League unlimited allows libel.

Even though I have few posts. Even if I was a staff member or a Board member. It does not alter the fact of what I have wrote.

The correct term is defamation and if you have any concerns about posts that trangress the boundaries, you have a report post option at your mercy for this very reason.

 

[*Sandy*]

you are off the mark. Staff are not allowed to vote. Members of the footy club are the only members that can vote - season ticket holders cannot vote unless they are members as defined by the constitution of the footy club. claiming that the board rigs voting is libelous and I'd suggest league unlimited should think about what they allow on this forum.

2002 staff members were allowed to vote...

 

[Twizzle]

I am not a board member and I believe that change is desperately needed. We need a younger more dynamic Board and we need some women represented.

But there is no way you can get change by being stupid or insulting or by creating lies about those running the place.

It does not surpirse me that there was no change because there was no quality options for voters.

It does surpirse me that League unlimited allows libel.

Even though I have few posts. Even if I was a staff member or a Board member. It does not alter the fact of what I have wrote.

could you please enlighten us as to what has been said to cause this allegation ?

 

[Dave Q]

have to disagree Dave some good signings Alex Melvile joining the coaching staff i am very confident of a good year

I hope so mob, I must be the last Souths supporter in the district still wishing the guys well.

As for libel, heres a few fun sections of the act:-


Defence of triviality
33 Defence of triviality

It is a defence to the publication of defamatory matter if the defendant proves that the circumstances of publication were such that the plaintiff was unlikely to sustain any harm.

And even if LU has defamed someone:-

DEFAMATION ACT 2005 - SECT 34

Damages to bear rational relationship to harm
34 Damages to bear rational relationship to harm

In determining the amount of damages to be awarded in any defamation proceedings, the court is to ensure that there is an appropriate and rational relationship between the harm sustained by the plaintiff and the amount of damages awarded.


Ergo: I dont think LU will be laying off Coby for lack of funds soon. Sometimes he leaves his manners at the gate, but thats the only way to run a forum filled with idiots like us.

And by the way, there is no such thing in NSW law as libel anymore.

Bummer. Ive been defamed since I first set finger on keyboard in 2006. Of course Ive only made friends since my LU career began. Not much of a loss. Maybe if one supports the Roosters, having a friend in a loss, the evil dark-hearted club they are!

 

[bigfoot]

I am not a board member

Ok no worries. You should post more often. The forums are always better with more people.

 

[darkbloom]

The libel or defamation was the statement that the current Board of penrith district rugby league football club manipulates the election to secure re-election.

In 2002 staff members who were also club members were allowed to vote for the first time because of the stupid changes the then Board made to the constitution. They have not been changed since then so the consitution still gives staff who are members that same right, I think if staff members legally challenged they would probably win the right back.

It does not change the fact that the board needs to represent a far wider demographic than it currently does. To achieve this some quality candidates to step forward. The two main ones who nominated this year are not up to scratch. They would be eaten alive by the existing board members.

 

[Bob]

The libel or defamation was the statement that the current Board of penrith district rugby league football club manipulates the election to secure re-election.

In 2002 staff members who were also club members were allowed to vote for the first time because of the stupid changes the then Board made to the constitution. They have not been changed since then so the consitution still gives staff who are members that same right, I think if staff members legally challenged they would probably win the right back.

It does not change the fact that the board needs to represent a far wider demographic than it currently does. To achieve this some quality candidates to step forward. The two main ones who nominated this year are not up to scratch. They would be eaten alive by the existing board members.

I've got to agree with you on this one, what we need as a club is some very successful businessmen, Dave O'Neil (Abcoe Warehouse) and Sanyo's Managing Director whose name escapes me would be 2 I would vote for.

 

[Fibroman]

If things are to change, I agree with Darkbloom in that we need some younger people, perhaps with a background in sports administration. The presence of a woman or two would also be a good move in my humble opinion.

 

[Twizzle]

The libel or defamation was the statement that the current Board of penrith district rugby league football club manipulates the election to secure re-election.

In 2002 staff members who were also club members were allowed to vote for the first time because of the stupid changes the then Board made to the constitution. They have not been changed since then so the consitution still gives staff who are members that same right, I think if staff members legally challenged they would probably win the right back.

It does not change the fact that the board needs to represent a far wider demographic than it currently does. To achieve this some quality candidates to step forward. The two main ones who nominated this year are not up to scratch. They would be eaten alive by the existing board members.

If, in your opinion, thats what the current board has done, it is not a League Unlimited issue.

 

[Dave Q]

The libel or defamation was the statement that the current Board of penrith district rugby league football club manipulates the election to secure re-election.

In 2002 staff members who were also club members were allowed to vote for the first time because of the stupid changes the then Board made to the constitution. They have not been changed since then so the consitution still gives staff who are members that same right, I think if staff members legally challenged they would probably win the right back.

It does not change the fact that the board needs to represent a far wider demographic than it currently does. To achieve this some quality candidates to step forward. The two main ones who nominated this year are not up to scratch. They would be eaten alive by the existing board members.

I dont beleive the statement gave rise to any defamation whatsoever.

But even if it did, wheres the loss and how is the allegedly defamend going to prove it?

No connection, no case.

Fred Nerk " Because of what I read on LU, I formed the view that the Panther board were corrupt as, and I doth verily withheld a planned donation of $1m."

Pffft!

Anybody who satisfies themseleves beyond a reasonable doubt that anything said on LU is true, and then acts on that belief, to their detriment or against their interests, is likely to be medically, insane.

 

[murraymob]

The libel or defamation was the statement that the current Board of penrith district rugby league football club manipulates the election to secure re-election.

In 2002 staff members who were also club members were allowed to vote for the first time because of the stupid changes the then Board made to the constitution. They have not been changed since then so the consitution still gives staff who are members that same right, I think if staff members legally challenged they would probably win the right back.

It does not change the fact that the board needs to represent a far wider demographic than it currently does. To achieve this some quality candidates to step forward. The two main ones who nominated this year are not up to scratch. They would be eaten alive by the existing board members.

Dark bloom not having a go at you and i have not yet read a copy of the constitution .Can you tell me currently are staff able to vote on these elections or are the told they are not allowed

 

[stretcher]

I've got to agree with you on this one, what we need as a club is some very successful businessmen, Dave O'Neil (Abcoe Warehouse) and Sanyo's Managing Director whose name escapes me would be 2 I would vote for.

are you kidding oneill a successful business man he owns a frozen food company not on his own i might add that has gone well and by no means is it a multi million dollar company employing hundreds of staff this guy is a local park footballer done good with absolutely nil higher education and business training and would know as much as a your local plumber,bricklayer with a successful business please people you need people with appropriate business backround with a number of degrees and experience in a large corporation with contacts and vision who may already be on a couple of other boards with a good reputation as a go get em type of person who dosent pull punches and gets the job done...ps there are a lot of people in the city of penrith who are more successful than the dave oneills of the world that refuse to put there money into football sponsorship to get recognition....

 

[murraymob]

so stretch are you saying the fact he has no degree means he has no vision.The man is a self made millionare .He would bring new ideas are maybe even a outside of the box approach.
Bottom line the old days of just plugging in another pokie are gone.I will agree with you that new people are needed but we just had our chance and could not get them in.I just hope the massive losses we are hearing about will be overcome now everything is up and running.And running well from what i have seen

 

[*Sandy*]

Dark bloom not having a go at you and i have not yet read a copy of the constitution .Can you tell me currently are staff able to vote on these elections or are the told they are not allowed

How I read it murrymob is that those staff members who are current club members are allowed to vote. That's how he wrote it.

I'm not quite grasping what darkbloom means by if the staff members legally challenged it, what rights would they win back? Their voting rights?

If I am reading right, were they led to believe they couldn't vote, yet the constitution hasn't changed so therefore they could have voted?

Interesting... I wonder if they knew would they have voted for change?