Board Elections

[Nigel Highley]

In regards to your point 1 here, there was a statement made by darkbloom earlier on that the board of 2002 had changed the constitution to enable the staff of the licensced club could vote, I'm guessing you must have been one of the employees back then?

It was also mentioned that the constitution had not changed. So would that not have enabled the employees to be able to vote still?

Not that it really matters, but might make it clearer for some who might be as confused as I am on the matter.

Yes Sandy I was a staff member in 2002, I did vote in the election then if memory serves me right there was a complaint made to the OLGR and a second election was held in which I was not allowed to vote, I believe this was based on the staff vote and the fact that staff had received how to vote cards with their payslips.

Over the past several years I had read numerous documents in relation to the governance of the club, the most recent version of the clubs constitution that I have is 2008 and it clearly states that staff are strictly prohibited from voting, also I have read a pre nomination module produced by the OLGR and this also states the same condition that staff are prohibited from voting.

This is also stated in the latest amendment to the Registered Clubs Act 1976. I have been in attendance at recent AGM's and there has been no discussion in regards to a change to the constitution relating to staff voting, and I do believe that the OLGR over rules any clubs constitution, as I stated the only area that I am not certain on are the employees of the football club I do believe they can vote, as it is classified as a different payroll and entity.

I am not aware as to whom the poster "Darkbloom" is and I do not know what his experience or interaction is at this level with the club, but I will say that Darkbloom's writing's remind me very much of those of Panthers Marketing Manager.

 

[murraymob]

nigel
If you run next election.All of us will volunteer and get out there to promote you and i should add Steve Mckenzie as well.I have been massivley impressed by the way you have handled the election and after as well
I might even try to rope in our bunny friend Dave Q for a few election ideas.And as you have stated Nigel We now move on support the team both by attending games and have a few soft drinks at the club

 

[Dave Q]

nigel
If you run next election.All of us will volunteer and get out there to promote you and i should add Steve Mckenzie as well.I have been massivley impressed by the way you have handled the election and after as well
I might even try to rope in our bunny friend Dave Q for a few election ideas.And as you have stated Nigel We now move on support the team both by attending games and have a few soft drinks at the club

I would like to assist, I have helped in a few elections here and there previously on different scales and I have my panther connections.

My conenctions love the panther people. Thats what they are about.

I am going to let Nigel know a few things about Souths that I cant say publically, things he can think about and maybe apply to his situation and help the rank and file panther people.

 

[darkbloom]

Try this url for what can be dealt to posters on websites. I can't post a link so i have left out some dots and forward slashes. it is a story that should be intersting to you.

The number of legal cases arises from public spaces is rising rapidly.

www news com au adelaidenow story/0.22606.26381751-2682.html?from=public rss

Nice catch Nigel but the marketing manager has shown himself to be a defender of the board. I am for urgent and widespread change.

 

[Dave Q]

Try this url for what can be dealt to posters on websites. I can't post a link so i have left out some dots and forward slashes. it is a story that should be intersting to you.

The number of legal cases arises from public spaces is rising rapidly.

www news com au adelaidenow story/0.22606.26381751-2682.html?from=public rss

Nice catch Nigel but the marketing manager has shown himself to be a defender of the board. I am for urgent and widespread change.

DB, I respect a guy who backs up. I will read the story with interest.

 

[murraymob]

Dark Bloom
have you ever thought of running for the board .You clearly are a knowledgeable person with a great passion for the club .Themore candidates there are the more chance for change

 

[darkbloom]

if they would allow me to attend meeting by teleconference I would think about it. I now live too far away from the riff. I also dont have the profile and, to be honest, am in much the same boat as the recent candidates. good at expressing thoughts in writing but when it comes to the cut and thrust of politics I am out of my league.

 

[Dave Q]

if they would allow me to attend meeting by teleconference I would think about it. I now live too far away from the riff. I also dont have the profile and, to be honest, am in much the same boat as the recent candidates. good at expressing thoughts in writing but when it comes to the cut and thrust of politics I am out of my league.

Work the room db, its easy.

 

[darkbloom]

thats easy for you to say, but my tongue gets tied, voice shakes and i break into a cold sweat when I have to confront issues i am passionate about. The best political method is gto remain cool, logical, and dispassionate.

 

[Dave Q]

thats easy for you to say, but my tongue gets tied, voice shakes and i break into a cold sweat when I have to confront issues i am passionate about. The best political method is gto remain cool, logical, and dispassionate.

No-one has it over you db, people are essentially equal and your view is as worthy as anyone elses...just remember that.

Ive met prime ministers and homeless people. At the core human level, they are the equal of each other.

 

[darkbloom]

I agree 100% and I know and i tell myself that but itdoes not stop the inner voices that that take me down a few pegs when it counts.

 

[Dave Q]

I agree 100% and I know and i tell myself that but itdoes not stop the inner voices that that take me down a few pegs when it counts.

Yeah, I understand.

Its sounds silly, but sometimes when I am raking the leaves in the yard, I worry about how we can reduce alcoholism in the country.

Ernie Dingo said its not just an aboriginal issue, Ive lived in the country and hes absolutely right.

All the people have to decide to improve things, from the bank manager to the brain-damaged.

 

[franklin2323]

Murraymob you should run yourself. Me and my mates were very keen for change however as we are under 30 so wouldn't have the "lifeskills" to get in. However you seem to be 1 that be successful. How many on the board even know 3 Windsor, SG Ball or Harold matts players. How many of them regularly attend the club besides games. You do both

I am in for assisting in getting new blood in next time around. We need change.

We need to get as many 40-50yo that attend the club regularly how else can you have a say in it's workings if you don't attend it yourselves.

If we get enough of us to do how to vote cards 10 of us doing 100 each instead of Nigel etc printing 1000 it easier on the canidates.

Finally we should contact every member we know and get them to vote. I missed about 50 this time (sorry Steve, Nigel). My woman and her friends don't support the footy but they know I am angry at the current board and would vote for change with me. As would my mum etc

 

[murraymob]

Murraymob you should run yourself. Me and my mates were very keen for change however as we are under 30 so wouldn't have the "lifeskills" to get in. However you seem to be 1 that be successful. How many on the board even know 3 Windsor, SG Ball or Harold matts players. How many of them regularly attend the club besides games. You do both

I am in for assisting in getting new blood in next time around. We need change.

We need to get as many 40-50yo that attend the club regularly how else can you have a say in it's workings if you don't attend it yourselves.

If we get enough of us to do how to vote cards 10 of us doing 100 each instead of Nigel etc printing 1000 it easier on the canidates.

Finally we should contact every member we know and get them to vote. I missed about 50 this time (sorry Steve, Nigel). My woman and her friends don't support the footy but they know I am angry at the current board and would vote for change with me. As would my mum etc

Franklin next time there be a organized push by us`all.My work commitments would make it hard for me to run.But i agree we need to get more people we know who are leagues club members to vote for our candidate

 

[Panther_Daz]

In about 10-15 years i will definately run for the Board. Till then i will continue to assist Nigel and Steve in their campaigns to gain valuable experience.

I do agree with you both about getting more members to vote. 500 is simply not enough when there is about 60,000 members.

 

[franklin2323]

In about 10-15 years i will definately run for the Board. Till then i will continue to assist Nigel and Steve in their campaigns to gain valuable experience.

I do agree with you both about getting more members to vote. 500 is simply not enough when there is about 60,000 members.

You are about 5 years younger then me. I too will be running about the same time.

The problem is no one knew it was on. Or if they could vote I had to double check I could vote. We just need to get the word out

 

[Panther_Daz]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/outgoing-penrith-panthers-captain-peter-civoniceva-urges-fans-to-dump-board/story-e6frexnr-1226120817021


PANTHERS directors are reeling after an extraordinary ambush from Petero Civoniceva, with the outgoing skipper - in the club's official newspaper - urging fans to dump the board.

In a carefully crafted and clandestinely executed attack, Civoniceva used a farewell column in last weekend's edition of Panther News to launch an unprecedented political broadside.

"We have seen many changes to the football department over recent months," Civoniceva wrote.

"Fans and supporters, you have the chance to further that change by electing a new board later in the year.

"We need a successful, passionate and driven board who can give (general manager) Phil (Gould) the backing and support he needs to re-engage with the football and business community."

While Panthers chairman Don Feltis declined the opportunity to respond last night, Civoniceva elaborated on his feelings in a candid interview with The Daily Telegraph.


The Broncos-bound veteran voiced his team's displeasure at the board's lack of consultation over coaching appointments that created double player angst - first when Matt Elliott was axed in April and again when Steve Georgallis was overlooked for the full-time role in June.

"For us as players, all we wanted was to an opportunity to convey the thoughts of the playing group," Civoniceva explained. "We are out there playing and trying and we just wanted to let them know what we felt as a group.

"That opportunity was not given to us.

"At the end of the day, we would've liked to have an opportunity to speak . . . but that's not the way they run the business.

"Whatever decisions have been made - whether it's Matty or Georgie - we've just had to accept it and move on. It's been such a disruptive season. To the boys' credit we've held tight together."

But away from football, the 35-year-old has also developed a deep and passionate opinions about Penrith's off-field position. The Panthers licensed business has posted a combined $20 million loss over the past two years, and yet the board has not been challenged.

In short, Civoniceva feels Penrith "has not reached its full potential".

He added: "They've been in there a long time. Maybe there has not been a deep analysis of how successful the decision-making process of this board has been.

"We need an analysis of how the Leagues Club and Football Club is going and then make a decision about whether these guys are the appropriate guys to be taking the club into the future.

"I wanted to spark a bit of interest among the fans about who they want making decisions. I'm entitled to my opinion. I've been at the club four years. In that time I've seen the good and the bad sides of the club. That's what I base my opinion on.



"I love the club and in the space of just four years I never felt I'd feel this way about the Panthers. It's the people I love the most.

"There are some very passionate people here - some of the greatest people I've ever met in the NRL.

"But for them and the club as organisation, Penrith has not reached its full potential.

"People need to realise they've got the chance to make a change."

There's been speculation a rebel ticket will be formed to challenge Feltis's board at the end-of-year poll.

Civoniceva has spoken to powerful figures with similar concerns, but was unaware whether a rival ticket had been assembled as yet.

However, some lengthy discussions with Gould have convinced him that fresh blood must be infused to execute Gould's vision. "There's an election coming up," Civoniceva said.

"I've sat down with Phil Gould quite a number of times. I know about his plans for the club and what he wants to do - not just for Penrith but the whole of Western Sydney. He's got a great plan and strategy.

"I think he needs people who can make decisions that give him the best platform to implement those plans.

"I want to see people who are passionate and want to see it be a successful footy club to have an opportunity to be in power.



"The club needs sharp business people that are from the area and passionate about Penrith to be on board."

 

[Big Mick]

I think Petero needs to shut up imo.

 

[franklin2323]

I am counting down the days until the elections.

We are losing money galore from the League's club. 6 months after the AGM. The 18months until financial security is no further advanced mainly due to it being reliant on the government allowing them to palm off some clubs.

The board stupidly re-signed Elliott after 3 terrible years. Cut the funding to the juniors so much that we struggle big time.

 

[betcats]

I think Petero needs to shut up imo.

I agree, shut up and have fun in Brisbane.

Edit: Though some changes on the board would probably be welcome, i think Petero has felt way too entilted as captain of this team. Captains dont pick boards or hire coaches.