Brett Stewart found not guilty of sexual assault

[bartman]

Muat be the arse bartman has his head stuck up.

I'll pay that :lol:

 

[GB!]

Now people might think twice when they call Slater and Gallen grubs ??....

lol, grabbing nuts, gouging & kicking is a bit different to an alleged assault

 

[gong_eagle]

I think it may be time to lock this thread and move on to the season that we have coming

 

[Timmah]

This is true, however the fact that the cops have formally charged him should indicate in the early stages at least, that they are fairly confident the girl isn't lying.

I say this not in defence of Stewart, but Crockett and Laffranchi were not found guilty after being charged. It can still very easily go either way.

Now people might think twice when they call Slater and Gallen grubs ??....

Not at all. A bit of perspective is required here - Gallen and Slater are both still A-grade grubs on the footy field.

Not to mention Stewart is yet to be found guilty on this matter - it's hardly fair to label him a grub just yet if he is found to have done nothing.

 

[Eels Dude]

I'm shattered also. I've watched him since he was coming through the grades and he's been one of my favourite players since. I guess myself and all Manly fans are hoping he comes out of this innocent, but I'm sure that would be the case for any team's supporters

I personally hope justice prevails. If he's found not guilty then so be it and things go back to normal, but I think it is an insult to the victim to hope someone is found 'not guilty' simply because you are a fan of them.

And Kiki, some people on here do understand the legal system (even work within it) Bartman and several others, for example have certainly shown the knows things they know so I don't think legal debates should be disregarded as such.

 

[kia ora storm]

I think it may be time to lock this thread and move on to the season that we have coming

Why ???....the more scrutiny the better.

 

[gong_eagle]

Now people might think twice when they call Slater and Gallen grubs ??....

no need to think :sarcasm:

 

[Timmah]

I think it may be time to lock this thread and move on to the season that we have coming

Rubbish. I know you're hurting as a Manly fan but discussion on this will continue until there's nothing more to be said.

There's still plenty to be said and as long as people don't make comments that have any legal ramifications, the show must go on.

On that note though - don't get me wrong, I wanna talk footy too!!!

 

[Ray Mosters]

This is true, however the fact that the cops have formally charged him should indicate in the early stages at least, that they are fairly confident the girl isn't lying.

Yeah, it means that the guys investigating, the guys that have talked to everyone involved and seen the results of the forensic evidence, have decided that not only do they think he did it, but they think there is enough evidence to build a solid case to prove it in court.

Im struggling to believe this.

 

[God-King Dean]

Now people might think twice when they call Slater and Gallen grubs ??....

:lol:

 

[supersoniceagle]

I personally hope justice prevails. If he's found not guilty then so be it and things go back to normal, but I think it is an insult to the victim to hope someone is found 'not guilty' simply because you are a fan of them.

And Kiki, some people on here do understand the legal system (even work within it) Bartman and several others, for example have certainly shown the knows things they know so I don't think legal debates should be disregarded as such.

By all means I'm hoping he is found not guilty, but only if he is just that - not guilty of the charge. I agree with justice prevailing, let the law run its course and we'll see what happens.

 

[sting]

Rubbish. I know you're hurting as a Manly fan but discussion on this will continue until there's nothing more to be said.

tbh there's nothing really to be said.

this is f**ked, that's pretty much it

 

[Loudstrat]

I think the reason most people are shocked is because he was such a squeaky clean, upstanding, good advertisement for the game. Nobody expected this of him.

Nobody expected Lockyers incident either, but it happened.

Trouble is, by the sounds of it, Manly's boardroom is falling apart. I wondered whether the Penn/Delmedge standoff would impact on tyhe pleying staff, as public spats of this nature usually do - see Canterbury a year and a bit ago. When I hear players flattening sponsors who come to the aid of their daughters - at a sponsors function, I wonder with how much esteem these players afford those who, in some capacity, support their club and their wage. OK, The Watmough incident could have been isolated, but when Stewart - much admired, liked and respected, is alleged to treat a young neighbour with similar disrespect, one wonders wether it goes beyond errant personalities and becomes a wider problem.

One media report speaks of Delmedge putting his credit card on the bar to keep the booze flowing - to the point where bar staff refused to use it - citing RSA guidelines. If that was true, then you have to lay blame at the culture that, through the boardroom, has permeated the club. There is not much a CEO or coach can do to influence players on the right path when the boss acts like that.

A real shame for Manly, a real shame for League.

 

[Timmah]

tbh there's nothing really to be said.

this is f**ked, that's pretty much it

Nothing to be said? Yeah it's f**ked but 950-odd posts on the matter indicates otherwise...

 

[mik01]

Before we get carried away about this and rape/intercourse conjecture, the preceding Section 61H gives the following definitions.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s61h.html

So under those definitions a charge of sexual assault could include digital penetration of the genitals or genital penetration of the mouth, without consent.

the law draws no distinction between these acts

 

[Fein]

Nobody expected Lockyers incident either, but it happened.


Trouble is, by the sounds of it, Manly's boardroom is falling apart. I wondered whether the Penn/Delmedge standoff would impact on tyhe pleying staff, as public spats of this nature usually do - see Canterbury a year and a bit ago. When I hear players flattening sponsors who come to the aid of their daughters - at a sponsors function, I wonder with how much esteem these players afford those who, in some capacity, support their club and their wage. OK, The Watmough incident could have been isolated, but when Stewart - much admired, liked and respected, is alleged to treat a young neighbour with similar disrespect, one wonders wether it goes beyond errant personalities and becomes a wider problem.

One media report speaks of Delmedge putting his credit card on the bar to keep the booze flowing - to the point where bar staff refused to use it - citing RSA guidelines. If that was true, then you have to lay blame at the culture that, through the boardroom, has permeated the club. There is not much a CEO or coach can do to influence players on the right path when the boss acts like that.

A real shame for Manly, a real shame for League.

While most of this may well be true Loudstrat, I just keep coming back to two words.

f**k Manly. :lol::lol:

They are the scum that were the catalyst for the Super League war when they were "allowed" to pilfer all of the good players from other clubs back in the 70's and 80's.

They changed the game and at the helm of Manly or the ARL while all this was going on was that sh*teater Arthurson. :x

Karma merkins, karma. :lol::lol:

 

[myanonymoususername]

Nothing has been said about the DNA tests in relation to the charges, the DNA results have already been said to not be in until Saturday.

The charge was made based on Stewart's statement to police this evening.

Its quite possible the police decided to proceed with charges based on evidence not including the DNA. For example, she and possibly other witnesses have provided a credible version of events. And Stewart has not been able to refute anything other than say he can't remember, if he's said anything at all.

The DNA evidence would only serve to strengthen the police case, it may not be essential to them deciding to charge him. They may already have had physical evidence to support what the complainant said - eg I thought I'd read that the police had taken samples from under her fingernails, and told them she scratched him in a particular place on his body, and when they call him in he has the marks to match that.

 

[GB!]

Nothing to be said? Yeah it's f**ked but 950-odd posts on the matter indicates otherwise...

but half those posts are just shyte stirrers

 

[Kiki]

I think the reason most people are shocked is because he was such a squeaky clean, upstanding, good advertisement for the game. Nobody expected this of him.

yeh thats exactly it. there has never even been a sniff of trouble around him and all of a sudden this happens.

meanwhile any anti-Manly people who are delighted by this turn of events needs to take a good look at themselves.

 

[StormChaser]

Yeah, it means that the guys investigating, the guys that have talked to everyone involved and seen the results of the forensic evidence, have decided that not only do they think he did it, but they think there is enough evidence to build a solid case to prove it in court.

Im struggling to believe this.

That's what I thought, but my only legal knowledge comes from hours of watching the CI channel on Fox. :sarcasm: