bring back arko and quale

[Red Bear]

f**k Arko, a Manly Merkin who put Manly first, rugby league second.

Sure he was the lesser of two evils compared to Ribot and co but he was still a merkin.

 

[dallymessenger]

regardless of what is said by superleague nuthuggers these 2 were the best administrators the league has seen.
in 95 we had the higest ratings,biggest crowds and the game was expanding to all parts,these 2 were league men with a (i hate to say it)vision for our game and only in the interest of our game.
i know arko is to old but what about quale.
the sad thing for me as a supporter is that if the players and clubs had stuck together they could have got anything they wanted and we would now probaly dominate the aussie sporting landscap.
i would also after 10 yrs still like to thank all the superleague clubs for giving a game that wasnt theirs to sell to ruppert,we are now finaly starting to see the negatives of that decision come to fruitition via poor tv deals and a game being run by lawyers for the sole benefit of murdoch.

please bring in some people with league in their hearts not profits in their mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgWxveYFBU


compare that to david gallop saying we cant compete with AFL.

when the game was run by people and the body who created it, all was good in the game.

all the problems stem from the cancer that is news ltd.

 

[dallymessenger]

Arko's interest was Manly first, rugby league second.

How else did Manly, bankrupt in the late 90's, end up with Gosford stadium and then an NRL licence? Manly should have been the first club kicked out if teh criteria was fair dinkum.

Self-interest is what is killing rugby league. We need people focussed on the game, not simply their own club.

f**kwit, manly were offered a place in Super League that wouldve guaranteed their future. Arko wouldnt allow it. Unlike some other ARL clubs which were more looked after, manly had to shoulder the financial burden of the payer payments mostly on their own,

it almost sent them broke and needed a merger to keep them going.

Arko and manly put RL ahead of their own interests.

Canterbury, penrith and cronulla did not.

 

[dallymessenger]

If the ARL had been the leaders you claim they would have found a way of working a deal with News that wouldn't have seen us splintering in the way we did. AFL managed it when News came sniffing so why didn't we?

BS.

the game was going broke.

we couldnt afford to hold on for much longer.

if we had news ltd wouldve given up

 

[dallymessenger]

If Super League was actually embraced rather than totally ridiculed because of ARL self-interest, then players would be getting paid what they think they deserve to be paid, we'd have a national competition and players wouldn't be going to the ESL where they did embrace Super League and competition is now thriving and expanding.

why did news ltd give up on perth if they wanted a national competition merkin?

news ltd wanted the pay tv rights, other than that they really dont give too much of a sh*t

 

[nqboy]

You know dally, that inverted commas icon is a handy tool. Sort of like you, only handy.

 

[dallymessenger]

You know dally, that inverted commas icon is a handy tool. Sort of like you, only handy.

sunscreen on the neck mate.

and give the banjo a rest

edit : surprising you consider me an icon

 

[nqboy]

sunscreen on the neck mate.

and give the banjo a rest

edit : surprising you consider me an icon

I'm sorry. There's no prize for second.

 

[Perth Red]

Rugby league was shown on BBC with Test matches getting 70,000 to Wembley before SL. How the hell is it better off now in terms of exposure? Now they can't get 30,000 to a Test and the game is not on terrestrial TV. The profile of the game has diminished if anything. I'd say the game has grown outside the heartlands in spite of SL not because of it.

In any case your club was one of the ones that stabbed the ARL in the back and went to SL after the ARL gave it a start. Ask John Quayle about that.

Rubbish, RL is still shown on terrestial TV with the CC, a BBC program and NL1 finals. Agreed the Test crowds are down compared to the one off games that were played at Wembley but that is as much due to the State of the Int fixture programming and general running down of Int RL by the Australians as anything. When my club was last in the top division they averaged around 4,500, after two seasons in Sl our crowds are up around 8,500, take a look at any SL teams crowds compared to the old Div1 if you don't believe me. Not sure if it is ignorance or your dislike of the Sl concept but you are very wrong to say SL has had no benefits for the English game.

and what the frick do the Reds have to do with how good for English RL SL has been? Again in your ignorance you may not realise that the Reds were on the verge of going under and the SL threw them a financial lifeline.

 

[dallymessenger]

I'm sorry. There's no prize for second.

there is a prize for last place.

what adress should i send the wooden spoon to?

 

[Man_of_Steel_1982]

Watch John Quayle interviewed almost a year ago - http://podcasts.freedigitalcontent.com/videonews/070808_johnquayle.mp4

Compare how well he speaks to David Gallop. A great rugby league man, very smart, very passionate.

It would be the best way to get the game back on track if he was CEO. He'll never return though.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Rubbish, RL is still shown on terrestial TV with the CC, a BBC program and NL1 finals. Agreed the Test crowds are down compared to the one off games that were played at Wembley but that is as much due to the State of the Int fixture programming and general running down of Int RL by the Australians as anything. When my club was last in the top division they averaged around 4,500, after two seasons in Sl our crowds are up around 8,500, take a look at any SL teams crowds compared to the old Div1 if you don't believe me. Not sure if it is ignorance or your dislike of the Sl concept but you are very wrong to say SL has had no benefits for the English game.

and what the frick do the Reds have to do with how good for English RL SL has been? Again in your ignorance you may not realise that the Reds were on the verge of going under and the SL threw them a financial lifeline.

English RL is just as minor as it has ever been. It's only the fans of the SL clubs that think otherwise. The rest of the country don't give a sh*t. The BBC treat the game like rubbish. CC games are a joke these days and the SL show is only shown in the north or at ludicrous hours. International football was nearly killed BY SUPER LEAGUE. Typical poms trying to blame "Australians" for it when the ARL (and Fiji) were the only ones that stood up to News Ltd. And I didn't say it didn't have benefits but anyone who thinks RL in England is way better off now is kidding themselves. RL is still a freckle on fleas bollocks in the sporting landscape in Britain and even smaller when you consider that internationals were the only thing that got the game some attention and they can't even sell them there now.

Perth was not going under. It played about three games before News Ltd broke so you can be sure News Ltd had been courting them even before the ever played a game. The scumbags stabbed the ARL in the back, the organisation that gave them life, and got what they deserved. Once News had used them they tossed them away like the piece of garbage they were. Financial lifeline? Some bloody lifeline. Now the Reds are back and who do they go to for a handout? The ARL of course. Anyway, like I said, ask John Quayle about it.

I can't believe nearly 15 years on and all the damage that was done f**kwits who support the traitorious scum clubs that nearly killed RL by forming SL still try to claim that they did the right thing.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

f**kwit, manly were offered a place in Super League that wouldve guaranteed their future. Arko wouldnt allow it. Unlike some other ARL clubs which were more looked after, manly had to shoulder the financial burden of the payer payments mostly on their own,

it almost sent them broke and needed a merger to keep them going.

Arko and manly put RL ahead of their own interests.

Canterbury, penrith and cronulla did not.

You gullible idiot. manly saving rugby league!!!:crazy:

They were broke - and Arko saved them. The Bears were the sacrificial lamb. Don't talk about what you don't know or understand.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

BS.

the game was going broke.

we couldnt afford to hold on for much longer.

if we had news ltd wouldve given up

dally

Crap. News Limited used rugby league to sell PayTV in Australia. It was because it was travelling so well that it got their attention in the first place.

Arko, Packe and the other useless ARL pricks shoudld have put up a genuine fight for he game and kept it going. All Arko did was save the Manly basketcase then give his mate Packer the FTA rights for 2 bucks.

As for the Manly saved league" rubbish - it was Manly who spearheaded the "buy a premiership, stuff your juniors" approach decades before. So, to complain that they were "funding" their own players is a sick joke.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Mate your as painfull to listen too as a screaming baby on a 12 hour flight.

 

[dallymessenger]

Watch John Quayle interviewed almost a year ago - http://podcasts.freedigitalcontent.com/videonews/070808_johnquayle.mp4

Compare how well he speaks to David Gallop. A great rugby league man, very smart, very passionate.

It would be the best way to get the game back on track if he was CEO. He'll never return though.

i think if he was approached he would take it.

they didnt do the job for money.

he would love to put RL back where it was during his time.

 

[dallymessenger]

You gullible idiot. manly saving rugby league!!!:crazy:

They were broke - and Arko saved them. The Bears were the sacrificial lamb. Don't talk about what you don't know or understand.

dopey if manly had gone to SL theyd have been safe.

they put the game ahead of themselves, unlike the disloyal sydney clubs.

i hated manly all my life but during those times they showed their true colours.

 

[dallymessenger]

Arko, Packe and the other useless ARL pricks shoudld have put up a genuine fight for he game and kept it going. All Arko did was save the Manly basketcase then give his mate Packer the FTA rights for 2 bucks.
.

so the ARL didnt put up a genuine fight
:lol:

 

[mave]

You gullible idiot. manly saving rugby league!!!:crazy:

They were broke - and Arko saved them. The Bears were the sacrificial lamb. Don't talk about what you don't know or understand.

Of course we were broke. Where do you think we spent all our money?

 

[Rockin Ronny]

so the ARL didnt put up a genuine fight
:lol:

Obviously not.

As for Manly, only one club was told they were in trouble of exclusion - North Sydney - and that they had to move to Gosford. they spent $3 million on the ground. they were then put into administration even though there was $10 million from their Leagues Club available - but that money came out AFTER the Neagles was formed. Point is - it was Norths who put an effort in, Manly did nothing, yet Manly got the licence and Gosford Stadium - thanks to Arko.

To hear from you that Manly were the great white knight of rugby league was complete horsesh*t. they were broke - and Arko saved them. he also gave Packer the TV rights for bugger all which caused great harm to the game in terms of lost revenue.