Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[MugaB]

Melbourne have had 25 years to grow. There's only 5k registered players in Victoria.

Perth only has 4k registered players. An NRL team will be competing against two massive AwFuL clubs for fans and corporate support. Plus 12k RU players making it difficult to raise the player base for RL.

There's nothing to be gained from adding a team in Perth. It's why media analyst Colin Smith said to forget about Perth and focus on Brisbane 3, PNG, NZ2 and Melbourne 2.

Broncos and Dolphins are the two largest rugby league clubs in the world. There's interest from Ch9 in a third Brisbane team. If we want to get more money from the next broadcast deal then we'll need to give them something in return. Dolphins have proven there's room for growth in Brisbane. Simon Fordham said as much.

A socially conservative city like Perth cannot support two AwFuL clubs, a Super Rugby club and an NRL club. Its people are too set in their ways to embrace chance. Perth is at least 40 years behind Brisbane.

Wow imagine competing in a city with 9 AFL clubs and another NRL club

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Wow imagine competing in a city with 9 AFL clubs and another NRL club

We're decades away from Melbourne 2 being viable. The point stands that a media analyst who has worked on previous NRL broadcast rights negotiations said to forget about Perth and rated Melbourne 2 ahead of them. Based on the poor ratings for AwFuL in Perth, he might have a point.

 

[Colk]

Melbourne have had 25 years to grow. There's only 5k registered players in Victoria.

Perth only has 4k registered players. An NRL team will be competing against two massive AwFuL clubs for fans and corporate support. Plus 12k RU players making it difficult to raise the player base for RL.

There's nothing to be gained from adding a team in Perth. It's why media analyst Colin Smith said to forget about Perth and focus on Brisbane 3, PNG, NZ2 and Melbourne 2.

Broncos and Dolphins are the two largest rugby league clubs in the world. There's interest from Ch9 in a third Brisbane team. If we want to get more money from the next broadcast deal then we'll need to give them something in return. Dolphins have proven there's room for growth in Brisbane. Simon Fordham said as much.

A socially conservative city like Perth cannot support two AwFuL clubs, a Super Rugby club and an NRL club. Its people are too set in their ways to embrace chance. Perth is at least 40 years behind Brisbane.

Fair points about popularity of league in Brisbane (although you oversimplify broadcast deals) but right at the end you make this ridiculous statement (again).

It’s a shame because you occasionally seem like an intelligent fella but this is probably the biggest load of kuso that a person could write, particularly from Queensland.

You come from the most conservative state in Australia. If a society was 40 years behind Queensland, they would be still living in caves.

 

[Bukowski]

Fair points about popularity of league in Brisbane (although you oversimplify broadcast deals) but right at the end you make this ridiculous statement (again).

It’s a shame because you occasionally seem like an intelligent fella but this is probably the biggest load of kuso that a person could write, particularly from Queensland.

You come from the most conservative state in Australia. If a society was 40 years behind Queensland, they would be still living in caves.

He's very insecure about Brisbane. I don't know why, it's a nice little village. With an A class idiot.

 

[Colk]

He's very insecure about Brisbane. I don't know why, it's a nice little village. With an A class idiot.

It’s fine to argue for a third Brisbane side - I’m not against it down the line.

Some of his arguments though are bizarre and absolutely irrelevant.

 

[Wb1234]

It’s fine to argue for a third Brisbane side - I’m not against it down the line.

Some of his arguments though are bizarre and absolutely irrelevant.

The only issue with Brisbane 3 is timing not their obvious merits

Perth can’t compete with Brisbane 3 and the only thing saving Perth is the dolphins getting some clean air before another team comes into the market

 

[Bukowski]

It’s fine to argue for a third Brisbane side - I’m not against it down the line.

Some of his arguments though are bizarre and absolutely irrelevant.

Ramblings. I can't read them anymore.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Firstly, that wasn't a single factor analysis. . . I didn't say that the drop off in participation was the be all and end all threat to RL and the NRL's future did I.

Secondly, the fact that participation is dropping in all contact sports (which isn't actually true BTW) doesn't change the fact that it's a massive concern for RL itself. I've never seen any solid evidence that touch/tag is making up the difference in the key male demos either, just lots of people assuming that is because of it's steady increase in numbers over the last 30ish years. Not to mention the fact that on average most people whom play touch/tag have zero interest in RL or the NRL.

Thirdly, nobody has ever successfully created a streamlined method to convert non-contact players into full contact professionals late in their development in any sport, and people have been attempting it in multiple different sports for decades. There aren't even really any examples of significant players whom were truly developed from non-contact amateurs into contact professionals. Shaun Johnson is always the example people bring up in RL, but he grew up playing contact RU and Aussie Rules, where he would have learnt all the basic tackling skills he needed to progress into a RL career.

So yeah, the NRL are even more off their heads if they think that they can fill the gap in the decline in participation with touch and tag players. The simplest solution is the best in this case; upscale and increase investment into grassroots and juniors programs and broaden their reach to funnel through as many people as possible to counteract the general decline in participation as much as possible.

Cheer up mate. The game is doing well

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Fair points about popularity of league in Brisbane (although you oversimplify broadcast deals) but right at the end you make this ridiculous statement (again).

It’s a shame because you occasionally seem like an intelligent fella but this is probably the biggest load of kuso that a person could write, particularly from Queensland.

You come from the most conservative state in Australia. If a society was 40 years behind Queensland, they would be still living in caves.

Can you honestly say Perth is as culturally advanced as Brisbane?

Brisbane has hosted the G20 Summit, Goodwill Games, Commonwealth Games, Expo, AwFuL GF, NRL GF, Magic Round and will host the 2032 Olympics.

The facilities at the Queensland Tennis Centre in Tennyson are light years ahead of Perth's state tennis centre. The Brisbane International is returning on the 29th of December due to popupar demand and will have Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal in its draw. Perth only gets to host the group stages of the United Cup that was shunned by Brisbane.

WA still has a ban on gaming machines at licenced venues. Queensland legalised them 32 years ago.

Perth Rectangular Stadium is a dump compared to Lang Park.

Up until recently the best facility in Perth was Subiaco.

The new developments in the Brisbane CBD are light years ahead of anything in Perth.

The largest arts precinct in Australia is currently being built in Brisbane.

Perth is an isolated city that is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

 

[Perth Red]

Melbourne have had 25 years to grow. There's only 5k registered players in Victoria.

Perth only has 4k registered players. An NRL team will be competing against two massive AwFuL clubs for fans and corporate support. Plus 12k RU players making it difficult to raise the player base for RL.

There's nothing to be gained from adding a team in Perth. It's why media analyst Colin Smith said to forget about Perth and focus on Brisbane 3, PNG, NZ2 and Melbourne 2.

Broncos and Dolphins are the two largest rugby league clubs in the world. There's interest from Ch9 in a third Brisbane team. If we want to get more money from the next broadcast deal then we'll need to give them something in return. Dolphins have proven there's room for growth in Brisbane. Simon Fordham said as much.

A socially conservative city like Perth cannot support two AwFuL clubs, a Super Rugby club and an NRL club. Its people are too set in their ways to embrace chance. Perth is at least 40 years behind Brisbane.

We don’t take dumps in our stadium seats lol
brisbane is like a giant bogun town with a shtty brown river in the middle
pauline Hanson, say no more!

 

[Perth Red]

Can you honestly say Perth is as culturally advanced as Brisbane?

Brisbane has hosted the G20 Summit, Goodwill Games, Commonwealth Games, Expo, AwFuL GF, NRL GF, Magic Round and will host the 2032 Olympics.

The facilities at the Queensland Tennis Centre in Tennyson are light years ahead of Perth's state tennis centre. The Brisbane International is returning on the 29th of December due to popupar demand and will have Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal in its draw. Perth only gets to host the group stages of the United Cup that was shunned by Brisbane.

WA still has a ban on gaming machines at licenced venues. Queensland legalised them 32 years ago.

Perth Rectangular Stadium is a dump compared to Lang Park.

Up until recently the best facility in Perth was Subiaco.

The new developments in the Brisbane CBD are light years ahead of anything in Perth.

The largest arts precinct in Australia is currently being built in Brisbane.

Perth is an isolated city that is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

Don’t forget the ikea lol,

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The only issue with Brisbane 3 is timing not their obvious merits

Perth can’t compete with Brisbane 3 and the only thing saving Perth is the dolphins getting some clean air before another team comes into the market

I still cannot see Perth getting in before Brisbane 3.

The ARLC want teams that can increase the talent pool and provide financial stability. Rugby league is a religion in Brisbane and will have more than enough corporate support to be one of the biggest clubs in the world. A Perth-based team will always struggle for relevancy in a market thst only cares about fumbleball. Western Australian Kerry Stokes from Seven West won't give our game any favours.

The fact Perth Red continues to beat his drum about expansion into new markets is the definition of insanity. The RFL tried that with London, Paris and Toronto. All three failed. It took 20 years of bailout money from News Ltd and a golden run on the field for the Storm to carve out a supporter base of about 16k in a city with 5 million people. Perth won't be given any of these luxuries.

Any thought of a Perth-based team creating 10k or more registered players is delusional. Perth Red is always arguing that an NRL club isn't responsible for grassroots development when confronted with Melbourne's poor record, yet consistently says a Perth-based team will lead to thousands of new players. He's a hypocrite.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

We don’t take dumps in our stadium seats lol
brisbane is like a giant bogun town with a shtty brown river in the middle

Perth has people who dress up in G-strings with menstrual blood on their boobs running into shops. They probably got it from Maxipad.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don’t forget the ikea lol,

At least the people at Springwood's Ikea aren't naked with menstrual blood on their boobs.

 

[Wb1234]

We don’t take dumps in our stadium seats lol
brisbane is like a giant bogun town with a shtty brown river in the middle
pauline Hanson, say no more!

Tbf it was peeing not dumping

 

[Colk]

Can you honestly say Perth is as culturally advanced as Brisbane?

Brisbane has hosted the G20 Summit, Goodwill Games, Commonwealth Games, Expo, AwFuL GF, NRL GF, Magic Round and will host the 2032 Olympics.

The facilities at the Queensland Tennis Centre in Tennyson are light years ahead of Perth's state tennis centre. The Brisbane International is returning on the 29th of December due to popupar demand and will have Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal in its draw. Perth only gets to host the group stages of the United Cup that was shunned by Brisbane.

WA still has a ban on gaming machines at licenced venues. Queensland legalised them 32 years ago.

Perth Rectangular Stadium is a dump compared to Lang Park.

Up until recently the best facility in Perth was Subiaco.

The new developments in the Brisbane CBD are light years ahead of anything in Perth.

The largest arts precinct in Australia is currently being built in Brisbane.

Perth is an isolated city that is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

I think most places in the developed world are as “culturally advanced” as Brisbane or even more so. I think you need to travel more.

In any case, not one of those things highlighted (and everything outside of largest arts precinct or that they have hosted more events is just an opinion) has any correlation to whether a populace is more socially conservative or more socially liberal; unless the meaning of those terms have changed.

I’ll say that the ban on gaming machines is conservative; however, if you want to argue what is more conservative, I’d say a history of long term populist premiers, a unicameral parliament and a society that has given birth to Pauline Hanson, Joh Bjelke Petersen and Bob Katter suggest a slightly greater socially conservative bent than others in Australia

 

[Canard]

Can you honestly say Perth is as culturally advanced as Brisbane?

Brisbane has hosted the G20 Summit, Goodwill Games, Commonwealth Games, Expo, AwFuL GF, NRL GF, Magic Round and will host the 2032 Olympics.

The facilities at the Queensland Tennis Centre in Tennyson are light years ahead of Perth's state tennis centre. The Brisbane International is returning on the 29th of December due to popupar demand and will have Andy Murray and Rafael Nadal in its draw. Perth only gets to host the group stages of the United Cup that was shunned by Brisbane.

WA still has a ban on gaming machines at licenced venues. Queensland legalised them 32 years ago.

Perth Rectangular Stadium is a dump compared to Lang Park.

Up until recently the best facility in Perth was Subiaco.

The new developments in the Brisbane CBD are light years ahead of anything in Perth.

The largest arts precinct in Australia is currently being built in Brisbane.

Perth is an isolated city that is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

Not one of these events are related to social conservatism.

Expo was held 35 years ago, probably before you were born. It's culturally irrelevant to 2023.

The cold hard fact is that PRS is better then a dozen current NRL venues. So that arguement is as weak as piss.

 

[MugaB]

Fair points about popularity of league in Brisbane (although you oversimplify broadcast deals) but right at the end you make this ridiculous statement (again).

It’s a shame because you occasionally seem like an intelligent fella but this is probably the biggest load of kuso that a person could write, particularly from Queensland.

You come from the most conservative state in Australia. If a society was 40 years behind Queensland, they would be still living in caves.

Logan has folk still living in caves

 

[MugaB]

We're decades away from Melbourne 2 being viable. The point stands that a media analyst who has worked on previous NRL broadcast rights negotiations said to forget about Perth and rated Melbourne 2 ahead of them. Based on the poor ratings for AwFuL in Perth, he might have a point.

Viable? Every club is viable nowadays, even basketcase Gold Coast, and the Shire Sharks..
Please don't be disgenious, if Colin Smith predicted Melb2, there must be some merit in it, and as for a decade away, thats where the firebirds are after the ARLC are wanting the dolphins to bed in further

 

[mongoose]

We don’t take dumps in our stadium seats lol
brisbane is like a giant bogun town with a shtty brown river in the middle
pauline Hanson, say no more!

Brisbane itself isn't onservative. The Joh Bjelke Peterson days are long gone and Brisbane has been one of the strongest Greens seats in recent times. I would say Sydney is more politically conservative than Brisbane these days. I really don't want to take sides with that Logan nutbag but QLD is politically and economically the most diverse state in the country, easily. The labour party started in QLD, most people don't even know this. The regions are still quite conversative and backwards and you get characters like Bob Katter making their way into power. SEQLD isn't any more backwards or bogan than any other capital. I've read countless posts on social media from Perth folks complaining about unwanted aboriginals in the inner city too btw