Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

its a media deal, MEDIA.
This includes TV, digital and media related upgrades to their stadium. Its not hard to understand.
As ours includes radio rights included in the $400mil announcement it was also a media deal, not just a tv deal.

They got $571mil cash a year, of which somewhere between $520-540mill is likely to be TV only cash.

Brisbane 3 thread.

 

[Perth Red]

Brisbane 3 thread.

Heed what you type then

There's no guarantee that adding teams to Adelaide and Perth will lead to our game generating more revenue. You've failed to provide any evidence that the broadcasters and sponsors will pay more for an NRL that has teams in Adelaide and Perth.

NBL, BBL and A-League have a presence in all metro area, yet they don't generate as much revenue as the NRL!

This is where you say "that's because they're minor sports!"

Guess what motherf**ker, cricket is Australia's only national sport and is played and watched avidly around the entire country!

In 2019, the Sydney Sixers had a budget of $12.5m. Hobart Hurricanes had a budget of $8.5m.

That f**ks up your bullshit theory and proves you're full of shit.

You're against everyone that isn't Perth because you're an obnoxious wanker with an entitlement complex. A few weeks ago you ranted about how much you hate the Dolphins for using red, black and gold in their away jersey. According to you those colours must be reserved for a Perth-based team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Heed what you type then

Brisbane Tigers bid > Perth bid

Lang Park > Perth Rectangular Stadium

Brisbane Tigers $135m assets > Perth $0 assets

Brisbane Tigers High Performance Training Centre at Langlands Park > Perth's thin air

Brisbane commercial sector's contribution to rugby league > Perth commercial sector's devotion to fumbleball.

Player base in southern Brisbane, Logan and Ipswich > WA's lousy 4k Park footballers playing in front of no one in low quality competitions

Brisbane's overall TV ratings 111k > Perth's overall TV ratings 8k

 

[Perth Red]

So anti RL lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So anti RL lol

Brisbane 3 thread.

 

[The Great Dane]

Interesting you point to male participation... I assume you are referring to male full contact. I hate to break it to you but that's the case for just about all contact sports in the modern day.

What was that you said about single factor analysis?

Firstly, that wasn't a single factor analysis. . . I didn't say that the drop off in participation was the be all and end all threat to RL and the NRL's future did I.

Secondly, the fact that participation is dropping in all contact sports (which isn't actually true BTW) doesn't change the fact that it's a massive concern for RL itself. I've never seen any solid evidence that touch/tag is making up the difference in the key male demos either, just lots of people assuming that is because of it's steady increase in numbers over the last 30ish years. Not to mention the fact that on average most people whom play touch/tag have zero interest in RL or the NRL.

Thirdly, nobody has ever successfully created a streamlined method to convert non-contact players into full contact professionals late in their development in any sport, and people have been attempting it in multiple different sports for decades. There aren't even really any examples of significant players whom were truly developed from non-contact amateurs into contact professionals. Shaun Johnson is always the example people bring up in RL, but he grew up playing contact RU and Aussie Rules, where he would have learnt all the basic tackling skills he needed to progress into a RL career.

So yeah, the NRL are even more off their heads if they think that they can fill the gap in the decline in participation with touch and tag players. The simplest solution is the best in this case; upscale and increase investment into grassroots and juniors programs and broaden their reach to funnel through as many people as possible to counteract the general decline in participation as much as possible.

 

[Maximus]

Is there an AFLunlimited site?

Maybe these AFL trolls could migrate their garbage to such a site

Donkey and wb1234 liked this, but they are the biggest afl fans on the forum, constantly talking up how great they think it is.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Firstly, that wasn't a single factor analysis. . . I didn't say that the drop off in participation was the be all and end all threat to RL and the NRL's future did I.

Secondly, the fact that participation is dropping in all contact sports (which isn't actually true BTW) doesn't change the fact that it's a massive concern for RL itself.

Thirdly, nobody has ever successfully found a streamline method to convert non-contact players into full contact professionals late in their development in any sport, and people have been attempting it in multiple different sports for decades. There aren't even really any examples of significant players whom were truly developed from a non-contact into contact professionals. Shaun Johnson is always the example people bring up in RL, but he grew up playing contact RU and Aussie Rules, where he learnt all the tackling skills he needed to play RL at a high level.

Didn't Benji Marshall play touch?

 

[Wb1234]

Firstly, that wasn't a single factor analysis. . . I didn't say that the drop off in participation was the be all and end all threat to RL and the NRL's future did I.

Secondly, the fact that participation is dropping in all contact sports (which isn't actually true BTW) doesn't change the fact that it's a massive concern for RL itself.

Thirdly, nobody has ever successfully found a streamline method to convert non-contact players into full contact professionals late in their development in any sport, and people have been attempting it in multiple different sports for decades. There aren't even really any examples of significant players whom were truly developed from a non-contact into contact professionals. Shaun Johnson is always the example people bring up in RL, but he grew up playing contact RU and Aussie Rules, where he learnt all the tackling skills he needed to play RL at a high level.

So auskick is. A total waste of money then

and afl is crazy to use it as a metric

phew

 

[Perth Red]

Brisbane 3 thread.

ok

No need for a third club for at least a decade
Better use of a license to grow into new markets
with two clubs to support Brisbane fans dont need a third option
Neither of the two clubs are close to being at max capacity for attendance suggesting still growth opportunity for them both
News ltd/Broncos wont allow it
AFL isnt a threat to RL in Brisbane

 

[The Great Dane]

So auskick is. A total waste of money then

and afl is crazy to use it as a metric

phew

Kids quickly graduate from Auskick to contact versions of the game.

 

[The Great Dane]

Didn't Benji Marshall play touch?

I'm sure he did, he also played tackle before getting a scholarship for Keebra Park at the age of 16.

In other words, no he wasn't a touch player whom was dropped into an NRL system without any prior experience playing contact footy.

 

[Perth Red]

Soon all that kids U10 will be playing is touch

 

[Wb1234]

Kids quickly graduate from Auskick to contact versions of the game.

So you agree it’s a totally bs metric

 

[Wb1234]

ok

No need for a third club for at least a decade
Better use of a license to grow into new markets
with two clubs to support Brisbane fans dont need a third option
Neither of the two clubs are close to being at max capacity for attendance suggesting still growth opportunity for them both
News ltd/Broncos wont allow it
AFL isnt a threat to RL in Brisbane

Why is Perth a better choice than brisbane easts ?

beisbane easts will be stronger across the board than Perth

why not give broadcasters what they want

esp since png has little tv value we will be adding two teams with little tv value

 

[Perth Red]

Why is Perth a better choice than brisbane easts ?

beisbane easts will be stronger across the board than Perth

why not give broadcasters what they want

esp since png has little tv value we will be adding two teams with little tv value

It comes down to if you think the game should just keep adding clubs to its two heartlands or should use precious licenses to grow into new markets.
I have no doubts Easts could be a success, pretty much any pokie LC could run a club in the NRl these days with the grant on offer. Its not could they, its should they?
And in my opinion the game has sat on its hands for too long and its time to show some strategy and courage and grow the bloody thing, we've got a great product, we need faith in it now.

again any tv signifcant increase will come from competitive tension not location of new clubs.

 

[Wb1234]

It comes down to if you think the game should just keep adding clubs to its two heartlands or should use precious licenses to grow into new markets.
I have no doubts Easts could be a success, pretty much any pokie LC could run a club in the NRl these days with the grant on offer. Its not could they, its should they?
And in my opinion the game has sat on its hands for too long and its time to show some strategy and courage and grow the bloody thing, we've got a great product, we need faith in it now.

again any tv signifcant increase will come from competitive tension not location of new clubs.

Good response I’ll pay that

 

[MugaB]

You could have just said yes you agree they participated in illegal market manipulation, I don't give a shit about the rest.

I dont give a shit about you or what you want

 

[MugaB]

Didn't Benji Marshall play touch?

Shaun johnson too

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

ok

No need for a third club for at least a decade
Better use of a license to grow into new markets
with two clubs to support Brisbane fans dont need a third option
Neither of the two clubs are close to being at max capacity for attendance suggesting still growth opportunity for them both
News ltd/Broncos wont allow it
AFL isnt a threat to RL in Brisbane

Melbourne have had 25 years to grow. There's only 5k registered players in Victoria.

Perth only has 4k registered players. An NRL team will be competing against two massive AwFuL clubs for fans and corporate support. Plus 12k RU players making it difficult to raise the player base for RL.

There's nothing to be gained from adding a team in Perth. It's why media analyst Colin Smith said to forget about Perth and focus on Brisbane 3, PNG, NZ2 and Melbourne 2.

Broncos and Dolphins are the two largest rugby league clubs in the world. There's interest from Ch9 in a third Brisbane team. If we want to get more money from the next broadcast deal then we'll need to give them something in return. Dolphins have proven there's room for growth in Brisbane. Simon Fordham said as much.

A socially conservative city like Perth cannot support two AwFuL clubs, a Super Rugby club and an NRL club. Its people are too set in their ways to embrace chance. Perth is at least 40 years behind Brisbane.