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Red&BlackBear

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The foundation meeting was at Davision office at Chemside. I suggest they buy crushers leagues club.

QSAC could easily be used for their training base too.


Crushers leagues club @ grange is like 10mins from Redhill and still all northside. I thought at first the article said Chelmer/Chandler but then I re-read it and it said Chermside and was like eh? QSAC is a fair distance from Grange or Chermside.. matter of fact Dolphin oval is alot closer to Chermside.
 

Red&BlackBear

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its not the 50's anymore but yes its on the northside

Well after Chermisde you have Pine Rivers Council/Moreton Bay Regional Counciol so yeah it definitely is as North of Brisbane (city) as you can get. Still back on point, when I first read it I thought it said Chandler/Chelmer and thought that was a great location (Chandler specifically because the QLD Swimming Center and alot of training sports fields are out that way)
 
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johns_reds

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Crushers leagues club @ grange is like 10mins from Redhill and still all northside. I thought at first the article said Chelmer/Chandler but then I re-read it and it said Chermside and was like eh? QSAC is a fair distance from Grange or Chermside.. matter of fact Dolphin oval is alot closer to Chermside.

Maybe you've read a different article/quote then what I have but I haven't seen them come out and say we are going to represent South Brisbane, from what i've read they want to represent the whole of Brisbane just like the Broncos do, So I don't think it matters where they are based in Brisbane?

Although I do think with the Broncos leagues club at Red Hill it would be perfect if they could put a leagues club someone on the south side like at Springwood (that corridor is booming) the only problem is the Brisbane Lions now have a leagues club down there so there will be some competition.
 

Red&BlackBear

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Maybe you've read a different article/quote then what I have but I haven't seen them come out and say we are going to represent South Brisbane, from what i've read they want to represent the whole of Brisbane just like the Broncos do, So I don't think it matters where they are based in Brisbane?

Although I do think with the Broncos leagues club at Red Hill it would be perfect if they could put a leagues club someone on the south side like at Springwood (that corridor is booming) the only problem is the Brisbane Lions now have a leagues club down there so there will be some competition.

Only problem is the Springwood corporate section is in favour of an Ipswich Jets bid (even though they've made no effort to show it thus far) and could be considered part of the Ipswich bid.

I believe that the absolute best result is to.. wait for it.. set up shop in Acacia Ridge Leagues Club (souths) and call themselves the (South) Brisbane Magpies (with Souths-Logan being their main feeder club since they lost ties with Canberra) and use Sunnybank/Acacia Ridge as their main junior pools whilst spreading their reserves/area from WestEnd to Browns Plains, Chelmer to Mt Gravatt.

Keeping the Bay Area and Northside for the BRONCOS and Beaudesert to Beenleigh to Tweed for the TITANS.
 
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fightingirish69

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what about strengthening the competitions in league heartlands, promoting junior league and league at a grass roots level.?
maybe this should be done before setting up more boutique teams in areas that are already pro- league.

if the media and brisbane population had kept supporting the local comp after the inception of the bronco's, the lions would have just been as big a failure as the brisbane bears were.
 

Mr Angry

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It is not a Northside/Southside thing anyway.

It is a Bronco or not thing, Chermside residents and Mt Gravatt Residents will have choice of teams of who they can support.

I see smiley all ready had the reason the meeting was held there.
 

BDGS

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why? Similiar sized cities, Broncos are similiar size to the Eagles back before Dockers joined, seems Brisbane and Perth actually have a great deal in common. This isn't the only example, Heart and Victory in Melbourne, numerous International examples. Or do you think RL is in some way totally unique to every other sport in the world and Brisbane unique to every other city in the world?

Look at the sporting market of both cities at the respective times, South East Queensland has 2 soccer teams, 2 NRL teams, 2 AFL teams, a Union team and a cricket team and a baseball team. All competing for fans from the one place, out of all those teams only the cricket team doesn't really cross over on the other teams seasons, leaving 8 teams fighting it out for supporters in one area. The Broncos are largely winning that battle, throw in another team could have bad effects for the Broncos.

The Melbourne Heart and the Melbourne Victory aren't going as good as most people think. I've just spent the last 15 minutes looking through archives trying to find a particular article, anyway the article itself said that Melbourne Victory crowds are down by about as much as Melbourne heart were getting at their games.

Ive got a feeling that there is going to be a sh*t fight from the other clubs in agreeing to any expansion at all in 2013...

Here is what Searle is saying...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-least-six-years/story-e6frg7mf-1225995760309

I think his article is a fair call in regards to the Queensland bids and the need for careful and consideried expansion in the backyard of an existing club, but probably a little less relevant for the CC Bears bid for obvious reasons

I do also think he is correct in that we need to thoroughly entrench our two existing expansion clubs in Melbourne and the Gold Coast, before we focus so agressively on even further expansion. The Titans are still doing it pretty tough on a liquidity of funds level, and Melbourne, which has always lost heavily despite overwhelming on field succes, is about to face its toughest period in the history of the club, so if Searle is worried about shoreing up those efforts as a first priority, then I do support him in that

I agree Kool87, i have been saying this for a while now. The QLD Sports market (particularly South East Queensland) has changed a lot in the past 5 years, lots of new teams in a lot of different sports. It is less relevant to teams outside of Queensland.

The journalist who the article is misleading the public, unfortunately this has been down to play on peoples emotions. Below is the quotes out of that story from Searle only:

"With seven potential suitors, from Port Moresby, Rockhampton, Ipswich, Central Coast, Perth, Wellington, New Zealand and now Brisbane, it is hard to frame a market in such a congested field," he said. "But they will have to be in it for the long haul and have a real passion for the game.

"What I don't want to see happen with three rival bidders coming out of Queensland is for them to pull down the Broncos temple.

"The Titans have shown since we first came into the league in 2007 that we are built on a sustainable business model.

"Not once have we asked for a handout from the NRL, while the AFL is propping up the Suns and the Giants in western Sydney with $20 million handouts.

"Rugby league has shown itself to be sustainable in a challenging marketplace like Queensland."

Now, that is a lot different to what the article and the headline lead the reader to believe. This is nothing less then poor journalism.
 

beave

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“But we can't control what the Brisbane bid are doing. There were always going to be other bids coming out of Brisbane and I know of another one that is secretly in the pipeline as well".................................
 

DC_fan

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The architect of the Titans fears for the Broncos temple


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Michael Searle says there will be no expansion until 2017. Source: MICHAEL ROSS / News Limited


Any player looking to join an expanded NRL competition will have to wait at least six years, according to Michael Searle, the architect of the Gold Coast Titans and the league's new independent commission.


Searle was responding to news that a consortium was well advanced with plans to establish a second Brisbane team in 2013.

Searle said the earliest a new team would be added to the competition would be 2017.

"With seven potential suitors, from Port Moresby, Rockhampton, Ipswich, Central Coast, Perth, Wellington, New Zealand and now Brisbane, it is hard to frame a market in such a congested field," he said. "But they will have to be in it for the long haul and have a real passion for the game.

"What I don't want to see happen with three rival bidders coming out of Queensland is for them to pull down the Broncos temple.

"The Titans have shown since we first came into the league in 2007 that we are built on a sustainable business model.


"Not once have we asked for a handout from the NRL, while the AFL is propping up the Suns and the Giants in western Sydney with $20 million handouts.

"Rugby league has shown itself to be sustainable in a challenging marketplace like Queensland."

Craig Davison, 53, yesterday quit his post after eight years as chairman of the Thoroughbreds, a Broncos-aligned coterie, to be the public face of the second Brisbane bid team.

Davison, who has built an outdoor furniture empire from scratch, says he can use the business model to establish a second rugby league team in Brisbane.

Davison, along with fellow Broncos minority shareholders John Geaney and Tony Scanlon, had sought a seat on the board of the publicly listed company, but they were apparently unsuccessful.

The three Queensland business identities own a combined 25 per cent stake in the team and are now looking to sell the stock.

Shares in the Broncos have traded between 40c and 26c in the past year and closed yesterday at 32.5c, valuing the company at $31.3 million.
"The shareholding that we own in the Broncos in three separate bundles has been in the marketplace since late last year," Davison said.

Yesterday The Australian saw a draft document outlining the Davison consortium's plans for the second Brisbane club to play at Suncorp Stadium.

It linked former Origin greats Wally Lewis and Mal Meninga as ambassadors for the new Brisbane bid. But Lewis and Meninga, in Sydney last night to play in an Origin legends fundraiser for Queensland flood victims, denied having any contact with the Davison group.

"What you've seen is a draft piece of paper with their names added first without speaking to them. But all will be revealed at a media conference in Brisbane on February 21," Davison said.

Crucially, the Brisbane franchise will be privately owned, as opposed to the rival southeast Queensland bid based in Ipswich.

The 10-page Powerpoint presentation titled "NRL expansion bid ownership opportunity" states that 40 shares will be issued at a cost of $500,000 each, guaranteeing the club $20 million to help set up its operations.
The club would play at Suncorp Stadium, but is in negotiations on a training facility.

The document provides a proposed timeline of 2013 for NRL expansion, something not confirmed by NRL chief executive David Gallop.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...e-broncos-temple/story-fn2mcuj6-1225995867737
 

DC_fan

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Searle doesn't know that and would have no say in it anyway.


Searle appears to be a major powerbroker in the game. I would think he would know a lot of what is happening.

I don't agree with his thoughts. In my opinion the game cannot wait till to 2017 or later for expansion.
 

Zigwaa

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What a merkin. Doesn't want the Titans to lose their newest team tag.

The public wants it mate, it's gonna happen sooner than 6 years.
 
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