Brisbane2 Bid News

[Red&BlackBear]

At the bottom there is a box where you can put where you are from, you can put what you like, i know lots of people who 'fake' where they are from, these guys could be from anywhere pretending to live in brisbane.

Thats true. But if thats the case why aren't more people pro-this?

 

[johns_reds]

Thats true. But if thats the case why aren't more people pro-this?

Because it's like anything, when ever you don't like a product you tell 10 people, when you do like a product you tell maybe 1 or 2 people. The first people to come out are always the complainers, those who like the idea don't go shouting to the rooftops as much, it's been announced for 2 days, give it time then those who live in brisbane and don't like the broncos will start supporting this.

This bid has come in quite late so i don't know how good thier chances are, i think in 7-8months time when the decision is made we'll know a lot more about everyone's bid, i think it is great there are so many options for the future, lets just hope the right decision is made by the NRL!

 

[Bluebags1908]

Having a genuine 2nd Brisbane team is a very nice problem for the NRL to have. A 2nd Brisbane team is definitely warranted. And I'm glad that they might put a spanner in the Ipswich bid so no team will call themselves the Jets.

 

[Bluebags1908]

Not really. The free to air stations could not care less whether a side brings in "new eyes" or just gets the same old people to watch another game. They are selling advertising space, so the only thing that matters is how many people watch the game. Whether those same people have already watched another game that weekend doesn't matter.

Of course getting new people to watch might mean that the overall ratings will be higher but not necessarily, and especially not in the short term.

Ask yourself this question: which game would get more people to switch on their TV and watch - one featuring a new team from Perth or one featuring a new team from Brisbane. Quite clearly the Brisbane team is it. The fact that that same audience might also watch the Broncos play the next day is not relevant (for free to air revenue).

Pay TV revenue is another story and this is where a Perth side might have an edge. As Pay TV operators derive revenues from subscriptions, the amount of new eyes/subscriptions is relevant and could increase value. Although advertising still plays a part.

In respect of generating new TV revenues the Central Coast are sadly not even in the hunt. As much as people want it to not be the case, Central Coast is part of the greater Sydney region, even the ABS classifies it as such. Many people from there work in Sydney CBD and come from other parts of Sydney originally. And the Sydney TV market is already dominated by the big-rating clubs like Saints, Parra etc. It's hard to see where the Central Coast would have an effect. Not that the Central Coast Bears bid does not have merits, but additional TV revenue is not one of them, unfortunately.

One minute you say it's not the 'new eyes' that bring the ratings & revenue, but rather it's the same viewership getting to watch an extra game (true).

Yet on the other hand a 2nd Brisbane team will have Queenslanders all watching this extra game and rate it's socks off, but a Central Coast team won't have the same effect in the NSW market for NSW fans watching?

 

[Bluebags1908]

If you think the Bears would bring a bigger TV contract than a QLD team you're dreaming. Let's ask the networks. I would be willing to accept what they say.

I'm sure the affiliates for Channel 7 and Channel 9 are currently sponsoring the Bears bid. So there must be some value in it.

True a 2nd brisbane team would be a ratings bonanza in Brisbane, but there's no reason the Bears can't do the same thing in NSW.

It's not the extra viewers that these teams will bring in. It's the same viewers gettign to watch an extra game. And on that count, both bids would be the same in their respective states.

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

but the brisbane will add to the metro figures and that is what most sponsors are chasing

 

[smithie]

but the brisbane will add to the metro figures and that is what most sponsors are chasing

Correct. Brisbane II & Perth are the standouts for TV.

 

[Doug2234]

I see it as WA Reds and the South Brisbane Bears...

Sounds good.

 

[Goddo]

Great news. Brisbane II and Perth surely are the favourites now.

The next time around with expansion we may get Wellington/Christchurch and a 5th Queensland side.

Reason will win out especially with the ARLC in charge of the TV deal - TV money fuels the game, something a NSW bid can not provide.

 

[johns_reds]

I see it as WA Reds and the South Brisbane Bears...

Sounds good.

haha, only problem is we used to have a brisbane bears! not a good thing! (to be associated with that failed brand & code)

 

[Spitty]

I think Brisbane 2 has a long way to go and a lot of bid details to come out before we can even declare them legitimate contenders.

I do think that if they can get their bid up to speed they are a very good chance. But at this early stage despite them having some ground to make up on CC and WA, they do pose a better TV prospect than CC and aren't a big expansion risk like WA.

But the bid could fall over with the change of breeze at the moment.

 

[macavity]

Brisbane Diehards

in Navy and Burnt Orange, white trim

works for me....

 

[beave]

I will ask again, what the hell is a diehard??

I know the old logo was that of a titan/spartan looking lad, but surely they can't go down that path now with the titans down the road???

 

[Noa]

I will ask again, what the hell is a diehard??

I know the old logo was that of a titan/spartan looking lad, but surely they can't go down that path now with the titans down the road???

This is a die-hard....you really dont want to f**k with it

 

[Noa]

Some-one mentioned it before but it really is wonderful for the game that so many independant groups are clamouring to gain entrance to the NRl...........unlike another comp that has to set up and run its own clubs and hope the people come.

I cant wait till 2020.

 

[flamin]

Brisbane II is a much better option than Ipswich or CQld which are still about 15 years off being able to support teams in a national comp.

 

[dimitri]

Brisbane II is a much better option than Ipswich or CQld which are still about 15 years off being able to support teams in a national comp.

im not really sure

Broncos - can only manage 10k members now - when they should be up near 30-40k

How will a new 2nd Bris Team go with members ???

 

[docbrown]

To recap what I said on the Ipswich thread:

If QLD can get 2 out of 8 F2A spots with a team feature most Fridays & Sundays (except obviously when derby games are on) in the two back to back double headers, then you're looking at an aggregate annual TV ratings boost of around 37 million for that 4th game.

 

[NRLMad]

To recap what I said on the Ipswich thread:

If QLD can get 2 out of 8 F2A spots with a team feature most Fridays & Sundays (except obviously when derby games are on) in the two back to back double headers, then you're looking at an aggregate annual TV ratings boost of around 37 million for that 4th game.

I agree - the bid makes great sense. The ratings in QLD will boost the total TV audience. CC won't really be able to do this. Perth also offers a new timezone. CC can come in with NZ2 after 2015. The attendance for the Brisbane2 team are guaranteed to be in excess of pretty much all Sydney teams (especially considering they'd play the Broncs, Titans, Cows etc infront of at least 40,000)....

 

[juro]

The worst thing the NRL could do would be to choose Central Coast and Brisbane as the expansion clubs. Please, choose at least 1 club that actually expands the rugby league world!