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Campese. ACL. Torn.

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It was, although McCrone has been going great guns this year. Williams is a great prospect but without our leader it's going to be very tough to make the 8 this year, I know I'm being pessimistic but I reckon we might be done for the year.
 

Raider_69

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Come now Nick neither TLL or Dugans injury were handled very well by the club. They both literally just made the existing injury worse when they played. I appreciate your angle here but both were disastrously managed.

TLL and Dugan are as bad as each other
if we rested those blokes every time they had niggles, we'd never seem them play. They are alway carrying niggles. If thats your opinion then there are ramifications

1. You better come to terms with having Dugan and TLL along with many others for only half a season. If we're resting them each time there is a niggle, thats the situation

2. You might as well release them, because the big money deals they are on arent worth it for that time frame and actually under the salary cap, by resting anyone with a niggling injury, we will be debuting about 10 blokes a year on the 2nd teir cap and exceeding it, which will impact our cap the following year. So Dugan, Fensom, Shillington... we're going to have to cut them

3. Because we're rest any big name player (ie the good ones) who has a niggle, you can expect us to be spooners every year, as our stars wont be on the paddock for enough games to get us into semi final football.

the fact of elite sports life is most players carry niggling injuries, in some cases they would be better suited to sit the games out and get better, but in most cases they can play through effectively.

The other fact is these athletes are managed at a health level beyond any other profession. Medical experts are paid to make determinations on the extent of the injury and the likelyhood or re-injury or further damage. Those experts who have medical qualifications advise the player and club of their opinion and in most cases, that is the option taken by the club and player.

If the medical staff tell them they cant play, very few cases ive heard of defying that advise (and you always hear of it when it happens because we all feed of those "defied mecial advise and played a staring role" stories in the paper.)

You are way off base here mate. The injury toll at the club simply cant be blamed on the furners, as much as you'd dearly like to
 

jbl31649

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Might not be his career, but he has to be thinking with all that bad luck he has had, maybe its time to hang up the boots for the sake of the rest of his life.

Just so many serious injuries I really do feel sorry for the bloke. So much ability and potential, but everytime cut down with a lot of bad luck.

Does he consider giving it up and maybe moving in coaching?
 
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I reckon He'll be fine. His game was never about speed or good footwork was it. Lockyer came back from it, but at the same time he lost a lot of his pace. He was still able to be the main play maker and run the show though.

Lets just hope the raiders handle it better next time around. If there was any concern at all you would think they would rest him. Especially since he had just come back from a knee recon.
 

Timbo

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The thing that's got me even more worried is that this isn't three season enders in three years - it's three season enders in three seasons over eighteen months.

Injury 1 - Semi Final, end of 2010
Injury 2 - Comeback game, mid-2011
Injury 3 - Early 2012

I really love Campo, one of my favourite Raiders but I really have to wonder if he can ever get back to his best after this run.
 

Sleep

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Same knee. Send him over to the Phoenix Suns medical team. They're miracle workers.

And the reason why he isn't opting for LARS is because it's a largely untried method. No one knows what the down the road effects are so they're looking after his long term health.
 

Pete Cash

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Come on now Nick

Dugan didn't have a niggle he had an AC joint tear grade 1. That is substantially more than a niggle. Considering he plays at 100 percent every second of a game and he is targeted by opposition players heavily you are talking shit if you just put this down to a "niggle"

It must be some kind of spooky coincidence that he was targeted by the Roosters and ended up with an AC joint tear grade 4 while playing with an already injured AC joint. Come on mate it was very dumb. TLL also made his injury worse. This suggests to me he was not healed properly in the first place. Its all well and good that TLL and Dugan are going to have niggling injuries but if this is the case is it not stupid to play them injured. It seems to me if they are prone to injury then why make it more risky. Dugan would have healed from that injury in at worst 2 weeks. Instead he went down for 3 times that.
 

Timbo

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I'm not buying into Pete's conspiracy theories completely, but we have been rushing players back a week or two earlier than expected this year.
 

Slackboy72

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The thing that's got me even more worried is that this isn't three season enders in three years - it's three season enders in three seasons over eighteen months.

Injury 1 - Semi Final, end of 2010
Injury 2 - Comeback game, mid-2011
Injury 3 - Early 2012

I really love Campo, one of my favourite Raiders but I really have to wonder if he can ever get back to his best after this run.
If he returns against the Dragons he most certainly will.
 

Pete Cash

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And its not just Furner I am blaming but that is a lot of serious injuries over the last few years. Are we just unlucky or is there something lacking with rehabilitation and injury management at the Canberra Raiders. Why did Michael Weyman suddenly stop getting injured all the time ? Is it all just a big coincidence and the Raiders just are unlucky or is there more to it.

Why is a team like the Melbourne Storm very lucky with injuries and a team like the Raiders very unlucky. It seems like once again a bit of a weird coincidence that the more professionally run of those sides (the Melbourne Storm) have less serious injuries on their better players.
 

bottle

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And its not just Furner I am blaming but that is a lot of serious injuries over the last few years. Are we just unlucky or is there something lacking with rehabilitation and injury management at the Canberra Raiders. Why did Michael Weyman suddenly stop getting injured all the time ? Is it all just a big coincidence and the Raiders just are unlucky or is there more to it.

Why is a team like the Melbourne Storm very lucky with injuries and a team like the Raiders very unlucky. It seems like once again a bit of a weird coincidence that the more professionally run of those sides (the Melbourne Storm) have less serious injuries on their better players.

He's been playing with a chronic injury for the last few years, however it has by and large been the same ongoing issue.
 

Pete Cash

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I'm not buying into Pete's conspiracy theories completely, but we have been rushing players back a week or two earlier than expected this year.

I dont think its a conspiracy I just think the club and Dugan thought he was unlikely to make a grade tear 1 worse which to me in hindsight seems a bit silly because the Roosters are always going to target Dugan (as all clubs do) and Rugby League is a sport with a lot of impact injuries happen anyway.

Most of Dugans injuries have happened because he has returned too early. He very rarely got injured before last year. I think he missed like three games through injury in his first two years in top grade football but suddenly when the pressure was on him to be our main man with Campo out last year, he picks up an injury in the trial and in my opinion never got the chance to really heal at all last year.

Maybe I am wrong but his season never really got started last year and he did have A LOT of pressure on him to play with Campo out. Lets face it without Campo and Dugan our spine is the worst in the comp. RR, McCrone, Williams, Buttriss...I am sure the NRL shakes in fear at that.
 

Pete Cash

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Anyway whats done is done. No point harping on about it. Just ultra frustrating to see so much salary cap sitting on the sidelines. Realistically we should have chased Carney.
 

Gibbo

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Anyway whats done is done. No point harping on about it. Just ultra frustrating to see so much salary cap sitting on the sidelines. Realistically we should have chased Carney.

Lord knows the Canberra Police did a few times
 

Vic Mackey

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Always liked campese as a player, such a shame for him and the raiders team.

Can't help but have a little chuckle at skeepes expense after he said he hoped benji marshall breaks his spine and has to retire in the tigers/raiders game thread. A bit of karma perhaps...
 

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