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Central Coast Bears - Stand Aside

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Who is the bully? Talk about pot calling the kettle! How dare an insignificant flea like you call an Australian representative an idiot. Crawl back under your rock you cretin and the Sharks can fold now for all I care. You've just lost ANOTHER advocate.

And re Club opposition, that line is the greatest myth of the past 2 months in League. Only 2 clubs opposed the Central Coast Bears - no prizes for guessing who. 2 also opposed a Ipswich Jets bid.

In a nutshell, the Clubs are reluctant for ANY expansion, so they can get a bigger slice of an enlarged pie after the TV deal. That's why the Bears and other bidders have to prove :
a) they can add more revenue to the game than would be diluted from sharing
b) they have a sustainable model that will be around in 50+ years - the NRL's investment $$$ would be wasted otherwise.

Greg Florimo has had 2 meetings with the NRL in the past 2 weeks. I saw Greg on the weekend and while not giving much away, he was very positive. If the Bears weren't a chance why would the NRL keep meeting with them and going through their model. In 2004 they dropped off having meetings then announced 6 months later the Gold Coast was coming in. The Bears are right in the mix believe me - a few Clubs opposing us only proves they fear our strength, which actually impresses the NRL - they want strong Clubs, not weak clubs.

Haha! Like the Sharks need your support!

Oh and you don't know me so what an ignoramus you are!

Greg Florimo can have as many meetings he likes.

It doesn't mean they are getting any closer to being in the NRL.

And another thing.

I can't wait for an IC to be established and working.

They will be even more strategy focused.

The Central Coast is not a strategic inclusion in the NRL.

Enjoy your pipe dream!
 

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Like South East Queensland? the rugby league heartland that has only 2 NRL teams compared to Sydney's 9.

Can you imagine the AFL putting another team in Victoria?

there are no other towns of worthwhile size in victoria....who cares what the AFL do
 

Beowulf

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Like South East Queensland? the rugby league heartland that has only 2 NRL teams compared to Sydney's 9.

Can you imagine the AFL putting another team in Victoria?

If they had a Super League War and Geelong had been evicted, yes. In fact the AFL would have put them back in sooner than its taken the NRL.
 

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What the hell?

We will be safe no matter what happens with either bid.

Couldn't care less what happens with your bid.

Personally I don't think your bid is strategic enough.

Shoot me for having an opinion!

Don't waste your time having an opinion Dragon Slayer (you either have to follow the conga line or be attacked), just sit back and watch the other submissions gain strength over the next 6mths. Also the sharkies will get a bigger slice of the pie once the new TV rights are distributed guaranteeing their survival, I'm sure all Existing Clubs will be looking after each other.
 

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The NRL stated in 2010 that they have no preferred order of entry for expansion teams. They are encouraging bids in areas that have potential for inclusion, ie Central Coast, Perth, western brisbane corridor. They weren't even looking at CQ until D Gallop was impressed by his tour end of the year.

If there is no preferred order of entry, the successful tenders will be whoevers bid is most advanced and ticks all the boxes.

Everyone agrees there will be at least 1 more QLD team in the NRL at some point - the question is, is their bid superior to Central Coast or WA Reds for inclusion THIS TIME. If not this time, then obviously 1 or maybe even 2 QLD teams will enter next time IF they keep going and develop the bids.

Wouldn't have to be superior, just viable.
 

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Haha! Like the Sharks need your support!

Oh and you don't know me so what an ignoramus you are!

Greg Florimo can have as many meetings he likes.

It doesn't mean they are getting any closer to being in the NRL.

And another thing.

I can't wait for an IC to be established and working.

They will be even more strategy focused.

The Central Coast is not a strategic inclusion in the NRL.

Enjoy your pipe dream!

All the expanion bidders can't wait for the IC either - existing Clubs and their petty self-interest will be excluded.

And speaking of pipe-dreams, have you sold that isolated swamp land yet for $100 mill? No? I thought not.
 
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Don't waste your time having an opinion Dragon Slayer (you either have to follow the conga line or be attacked), just sit back and watch the other submissions gain strength over the next 6mths. Also the sharkies will get a bigger slice of the pie once the new TV rights are distributed guaranteeing their survival, I'm sure all Existing Clubs will be looking after each other.

Yes don't they get defensive.

They can post as much as they like about why they deserve to be in the NRL.

But in the end anyone with half a brain can work out that we don't need another N.S.W Club.

If we are serious in getting the bigger T.V dollars and spreading our game to wider areas than you seriously have to adopt a strategy of Perth, Q.L.D team or another N.Z team on the South Island in the future.
 
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All the expanion bidders can't wait for the IC either - existing Clubs and their petty self-interest will be excluded.

And speaking of pipe-dreams, have you sold that isolated swamp land yet for $100 mill? No? I thought not.

You will see something in the media very soon.

Make you cry into your Cornflakes.
 
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Meanwhile............

NRL clubs don't want Bears in their backyard Written by Greg Prichard smh.com.au Wednesday, 01 December 2010 05:56 THE bid by the Central Coast Bears for admittance to the NRL is lacking crucial support from existing clubs.
Sources have told the Herald that at the two-day annual conference of NRL club chief executives and chairmen in Byron Bay, which finished yesterday, there was a majority belief that expanding in other areas would better suit the competition.

The addition of a club from Perth and another from Queensland - either central Queensland or west of Brisbane - emerged as the preferences in discussion. But while the consensus was that expansion was a positive for the game at the appropriate time, that may not be 2013, as has been widely expected - and there may not be any additions to the 16-team premiership before 2015.

The new free-to-air and pay television deals are scheduled to be in place in time for the start of the 2013 season, and existing clubs are keen to use the anticipated increase in funds to try to boost their own profitability before the financial pie is cut into thinner slices.

The power of the clubs is increasing as the founding of an independent commission to run the game nears completion. The clubs are more likely to join forces on major issues, as demonstrated by the push from NSW clubs to install their representatives in key positions at the NSWRL this Friday.

The commission will be responsible for making big decisions in the future, but the clubs will still have a major influence on the direction the game takes - particularly when they stick together.

Perth has support from the clubs as an area for expansion for three reasons: because the time difference between there and the eastern states would allow it to fit in nicely with live television programming; nib Stadium is already available as a venue and the economy there is seen to be booming.

It is understood there are influential figures in Perth who would be prepared to get behind a bid there.

A fourth Queensland team would increase the number of Queensland derbies that could be staged - another plus for television. NRL chief executive David Gallop was in Rockhampton last week to meet the central Queensland bid team.

Gallop refused to discuss the pros and cons of expansion bids when contacted by the Herald last night, but said that ''while we discussed the 18-team scenario, it's clear we need to have more profitability in our [existing] clubs before we expand''.

Referring to potential new clubs, Gallop added: ''Not only would they need to have viable business plans for themselves, but they would have to show they could add something to the overall health of the game.''

The club chairmen and chief executives yesterday decided that from next season, games in week one of the finals series that included a Sydney team as the higher-ranking side would not be played at that team's home ground, but at either Sydney Football Stadium or ANZ Stadium.

Clubs have been reluctant to switch such games from their home grounds in the past, but there has been a change in attitude that now sees the maximisation of revenue as a priority ahead of home ground advantage. Huge attendances at games played at ANZ Stadium during later stages of the finals in the past two seasons has had an influence there.

Gallop described that decision as a positive example of the need for the game to continue to make important decisions ahead of the independent commission being operative, and not just tread water in the meantime.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...130-18fga.html









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NRL clubs don't want Bears in their backyard Written by Greg Prichard smh.com.au Wednesday, 01 December 2010 05:56 THE bid by the Central Coast Bears for admittance to the NRL is lacking crucial support from existing clubs.
Sources have told the Herald that at the two-day annual conference of NRL club chief executives and chairmen in Byron Bay, which finished yesterday, there was a majority belief that expanding in other areas would better suit the competition.

The addition of a club from Perth and another from Queensland - either central Queensland or west of Brisbane - emerged as the preferences in discussion. But while the consensus was that expansion was a positive for the game at the appropriate time, that may not be 2013, as has been widely expected - and there may not be any additions to the 16-team premiership before 2015.

The new free-to-air and pay television deals are scheduled to be in place in time for the start of the 2013 season, and existing clubs are keen to use the anticipated increase in funds to try to boost their own profitability before the financial pie is cut into thinner slices.

The power of the clubs is increasing as the founding of an independent commission to run the game nears completion. The clubs are more likely to join forces on major issues, as demonstrated by the push from NSW clubs to install their representatives in key positions at the NSWRL this Friday.

The commission will be responsible for making big decisions in the future, but the clubs will still have a major influence on the direction the game takes - particularly when they stick together.

Perth has support from the clubs as an area for expansion for three reasons: because the time difference between there and the eastern states would allow it to fit in nicely with live television programming; nib Stadium is already available as a venue and the economy there is seen to be booming.

It is understood there are influential figures in Perth who would be prepared to get behind a bid there.

A fourth Queensland team would increase the number of Queensland derbies that could be staged - another plus for television. NRL chief executive David Gallop was in Rockhampton last week to meet the central Queensland bid team.

Gallop refused to discuss the pros and cons of expansion bids when contacted by the Herald last night, but said that ''while we discussed the 18-team scenario, it's clear we need to have more profitability in our [existing] clubs before we expand''.

Referring to potential new clubs, Gallop added: ''Not only would they need to have viable business plans for themselves, but they would have to show they could add something to the overall health of the game.''

The club chairmen and chief executives yesterday decided that from next season, games in week one of the finals series that included a Sydney team as the higher-ranking side would not be played at that team's home ground, but at either Sydney Football Stadium or ANZ Stadium.

Clubs have been reluctant to switch such games from their home grounds in the past, but there has been a change in attitude that now sees the maximisation of revenue as a priority ahead of home ground advantage. Huge attendances at games played at ANZ Stadium during later stages of the finals in the past two seasons has had an influence there.

Gallop described that decision as a positive example of the need for the game to continue to make important decisions ahead of the independent commission being operative, and not just tread water in the meantime.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...130-18fga.html




Yes that's the article thats incorrect - the NRL joked about it with the Bears bid team and told them to ignore it and to keep doing what they're doing.

Note how he says viable business plan. Tick for Bears

Overall health of the game. An ingenious comment referring to the wounds caused by the Super League War. Tick for Bears and WA Reds as their admission heals those wounds.




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Like South East Queensland? the rugby league heartland that has only 2 NRL teams compared to Sydney's 9.

Can you imagine the AFL putting another team in Victoria?

if there was a population and growth area as significant as the Central Coast, then... well, the AFL would probably locate a team. League doesn't have that option though, the Bears have the region sewn up.

And hey man, I agree on SE Qld! Ipswich-Logan and Central Coast would be my choices
 

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Don't waste your time having an opinion Dragon Slayer (you either have to follow the conga line or be attacked), just sit back and watch the other submissions gain strength over the next 6mths. Also the sharkies will get a bigger slice of the pie once the new TV rights are distributed guaranteeing their survival, I'm sure all Existing Clubs will be looking after each other.

Well well - Dumb supporting Dumber. Beautiful.

Your two clubs (the Manly breadliners and the Cronulla Legups) fighting to stave off bankruptcy. Max Delmege has dropped Manly like a hot potato. Cronulla are relying on a pie-in-the-sky development which has been going on so long that it will soon get "National Trust" status.

Yet, these 2 geniuses are sledging the CC Bears bid!

This is why rugby league suffers in comparison to the AFL. Because rugby league would rather ignore 2 key areas and a team that will strengthen the game - whilst propping up 2 gormless clubs going nowhere.
 
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Don't waste your time having an opinion Dragon Slayer (you either have to follow the conga line or be attacked), just sit back and watch the other submissions gain strength over the next 6mths. Also the sharkies will get a bigger slice of the pie once the new TV rights are distributed guaranteeing their survival, I'm sure all Existing Clubs will be looking after each other.

Youre a numbnut of the highest order. You seriously think the jets and cq bids will grow now rapidly? Turn on the tv genius and see the situation. People are going to be too busy rebuilding their communities to give a sh*t about an nrl bid. Ipswich is under water. Rocky is under water. If the ccbears were originally killed due to bad weather during the bluetongue construction phase then what the hell does that mean for 2 bid areas under water in flood? If they weren't behind the wareds, ccbears pack before they certainly are now. All the money that was intended to be spent on the bids will be put forward for more important actions.

My folks who live outside of ippy have their property looking like a swamp. My mates houses from ippy to westend near the rivers are lost. My own house at Windsor has 1m of water through it.

And while I use the last bit of iPhone battery to post this. I ask you, no I plead to you to grow a f**ken brain.
 

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Thoughts to all in QLD. Expansion talk is meaningless when lives are lost and homes/businesses destroyed.
 
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Well well - Dumb supporting Dumber. Beautiful.

Your two clubs (the Manly breadliners and the Cronulla Legups) fighting to stave off bankruptcy. Max Delmege has dropped Manly like a hot potato. Cronulla are relying on a pie-in-the-sky development which has been going on so long that it will soon get "National Trust" status.

Yet, these 2 geniuses are sledging the CC Bears bid!

This is why rugby league suffers in comparison to the AFL. Because rugby league would rather ignore 2 key areas and a team that will strengthen the game - whilst propping up 2 gormless clubs going nowhere.

Wow more bullying.

No one is being propped up by the NRL.

And the only Club going no where at the moment is the Central Coast.

Expansion maybe in 2015 so keep plugging away by all means.

But by then I think there will be a lot more impressive bids than the Central Coast Bears.
 

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If they had a Super League War and Geelong had been evicted, yes. In fact the AFL would have put them back in sooner than its taken the NRL.

Geelong is a regional city. North Sydney is part of Sydney. The AFL will be delighted if/when one of their Melbourne teams falls over. They want to be the national footy code and having 9 Melbourne teams is preventing that from happening. NRL should make it happen by offering franchises to WA & QLD.
 
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Well well - Dumb supporting Dumber. Beautiful.

Your two clubs (the Manly breadliners and the Cronulla Legups) fighting to stave off bankruptcy. Max Delmege has dropped Manly like a hot potato. Cronulla are relying on a pie-in-the-sky development which has been going on so long that it will soon get "National Trust" status.

Yet, these 2 geniuses are sledging the CC Bears bid!

This is why rugby league suffers in comparison to the AFL. Because rugby league would rather ignore 2 key areas and a team that will strengthen the game - whilst propping up 2 gormless clubs going nowhere.

Look whats crawled back out from under it's rock.

In case you have failed to notice what goes on outside of your ego centric Bears world.
Manly have sorted their ownership issues with Quantum (who have made a 53 million net profit over the past 24 mths in a global financial crisis) buying out Delmege. This is just one half of Manly's financial backing so I'm not losing sleep over Manly's financial viability.

Truth is I was never a Sharks fan but seeing Bears supporters (like yourself) death ride Cronulla like a Buzzard over a living body, kind of gets my back up.
 

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Geelong is a regional city. North Sydney is part of Sydney. The AFL will be delighted if/when one of their Melbourne teams falls over. They want to be the national footy code and having 9 Melbourne teams is preventing that from happening. NRL should make it happen by offering franchises to WA & QLD.

North Sydney immediate area (North Sydney and Willoughby teams) represent 2 junior teams out of 23 in the Central Coast Bears bid catchment. Most of the fan base, players, ground, offices, staff will be/are at the Central Coast, same distance from Sydney as Gold Coast is from Brisbane and Geelong is from Melbourne.
 

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Look whats crawled back out from under it's rock.

In case you have failed to notice what goes on outside of your ego centric Bears world.
Manly have sorted their ownership issues with Quantum (who have made a 53 million net profit over the past 24 mths in a global financial crisis) buying out Delmege. This is just one half of Manly's financial backing so I'm not losing sleep over Manly's financial viability.

Truth is I was never a Sharks fan but seeing Bears supporters (like yourself) death ride Cronulla like a Buzzard over a living body, kind of gets my back up.

No ones death riding Sharks, they are death riding Dragon Slayer for his aggressive anti-Bear comments!

As for death riding, what a joke coming from a Manly fan talking about the Bears! You absolute hypocirite! Manly have been jumping for joy since the Beas were forced into the Northern Eagles JV. Then running back to Brookvale saying we hated being on the Coast. But thanks for bringing the Coast and Bears together as one in a giant loathing of Manly - its made our bid much stronger.
 
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