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Central Coast Bears - Stand Aside

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Rockin Ronny

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and the point still remains that you have been on the coast for 10 years, by your admission.......and yet still, by the figures supplied even halving the central coast population and the fact you target specific areas for membership drives there is not too many people interested in signing up,and then there is the north shore where the percentages get worse, even if you halve this areas population...as i said earlier dont you think that a lot more people would be signing up, just to rub it in the face of the NRL........just my observations, no need to go into a flap fellas

We haven't been on the Coast - we have been fighting those who have been trying to keep us away - the NRL (who introduced incentives to kill us off), your club (wanting to steal gosford stadium), fraudulent bidding set-ups etc etc.

yet - despite all of these setbacks over many years, the CC Bears has completely smashed very other club in signing up members in the last year or two - without even knowing if they will be in the NRL.
 
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We haven't been on the Coast - we have been fighting those who have been trying to keep us away - the NRL (who introduced incentives to kill us off), your club (wanting to steal gosford stadium), fraudulent bidding set-ups etc etc.

yet - despite all of these setbacks over many years, the CC Bears has completely smashed very other club in signing up members in the last year or two - without even knowing if they will be in the NRL.

fair enough re: the 10 years, i misread your post, i will cop that one.

re: the rest......well we will have to agree to disagree
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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Agree from that point of view. I was more considering the thinning of the playing talent with 2 teams coming in at once.

That would happen in all expansion. At least with 2 teams, we will make a decent amount of money from the extra game ASWELL as the exposure into new markets like Perth.
 

Timmah

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hillbilly (appropriate name, but that's neither here nor there), your response to me that "the Bears have something to prove, Manly don't" is utter garbage. Manly are not meeting the standards that other NRL teams are, and the Bears are already demonstrating that, without a team even playing a match yet. Closing in on 6,000 members two years from kicking a ball is evidence you wish didn't exist, but is there all the same. Using population figures to justify your argument makes no sense.
 
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hillbilly (appropriate name, but that's neither here nor there), your response to me that "the Bears have something to prove, Manly don't" is utter garbage. Manly are not meeting the standards that other NRL teams are, and the Bears are already demonstrating that, without a team even playing a match yet. Closing in on 6,000 members two years from kicking a ball is evidence you wish didn't exist, but is there all the same. Using population figures to justify your argument makes no sense.

have you got access to the office files of Manly......you and the other supporters here and the skateboard kid keep bringing up the population of the central coast and the north shore, saying that there is a population of 1 million people in the catchment area, i just pointed out that the percentage of members compared to the population (and i even conceded and halved the population), is not good

whether Manly or any other team are not meeting standards or not, the fact still remains that they do not have to prove themselves as they are already in the comp.....not trying to get in.....if you can`t get your head around that, then i give up, take your ccbears glasses off and try to look at the good and the bad

if they get in and they have sh*tloads of members good on them,but at the moment imo the figures do not add up

as i said to RR we will have to agree to disagree

im going to check the progress score of the Manly v Sharks trial
 

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have you got access to the office files of Manly......you and the other supporters here and the skateboard kid keep bringing up the population of the central coast and the north shore, saying that there is a population of 1 million people in the catchment area, i just pointed out that the percentage of members compared to the population (and i even conceded and halved the population), is not good

whether Manly or any other team are not meeting standards or not, the fact still remains that they do not have to prove themselves as they are already in the comp.....not trying to get in.....if you can`t get your head around that, then i give up, take your ccbears glasses off and try to look at the good and the bad

if they get in and they have sh*tloads of members good on them,but at the moment imo the figures do not add up

as i said to RR we will have to agree to disagree

im going to check the progress score of the Manly v Sharks trial

www.twitter.com/leagueunlimited - score updates are being posted as they come to hand.

As for your arguments, what comes through loud and clear is that a Central Coast OR Bears team is viewed as a threat.

Your points make no sense, suggesting that there's one set of rules for the Bears and another set for all the other NRL clubs.

The Bears are achieving membership numbers comparable to, and in some cases GREATER than other current teams. The relevance of the population figure has little bearing in terms of the membership numbers, at least not at this stage anyway. No team pulls strictly from their own population base either, which destablises your already poor logic further.
 

Perth Red

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He's on a wind up!
Have you heard anything about a rumour that the two succesful expansion teams will have Under 20's teams in the 2012 Toyota cup?
 

Perth Red

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I heard that the Reds don't want to just be producing players out of their SG ball for other teams and are keen to have an Under20's team next year for our SG Ball players to progress into.
 

BDGS

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I heard that the Reds don't want to just be producing players out of their SG ball for other teams and are keen to have an Under20's team next year for our SG Ball players to progress into.

They'll have to change the structure of the comp, but i would be happy with that.
 
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Way to miss the point.

Manly shouldn't have anything to worry about, but sadly some fans and even some management think they do.


thanks for the updates

i am not worried about the bears ........but i can see both sides of the coin, the good and the bad

as i said we might have to agree to disagree, again
 

Timmah

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Your supposed "bad points" don't make sense. That's my point.
 

Beowulf

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-expansion-teams/story-e6frg7t6-1226004683279

Skinny on potential NRL expansion teams

SO, the sport editor calls me this week and tells me he wants a column on expansion.
As I wipe the sleep from my eyes, my instant reaction is he's talking about my waistline. After all, it's been a long and lazy summer. Holidays over the Christmas period will do that to you.
No, you idiot (his use of the Queen's English has been cleaned up for our PG audience), he says, I'm talking about expansion in the NRL. I exhale and undo the top button on my pants. No problem I say. Shouldn't be too difficult given it's been the talk of rugby league.
Barely a day goes by without some sort of expansion story. Everyone, it seems, is queuing up to join the NRL. Bids are coming in from all corners of the country. They're sweeping in from interstate and overseas.
Perth and Papua New Guinea are in the thick of it. Southeast Queensland has two consortiums - one in Ipswich and another in Brisbane. The latter plans to formally launch itself this month. (Our tip is it may call itself the Broncos, after all they've they made no secret of their plans to steal everything else from the six-time premiership winners.)
Central Queensland has a mining magnate backing its plans. They've flown NRL executives around the country in his private jet. Mind you, catching a private jet to Rockhampton is like driving a Ferrari to Penrith - the trip is fun but there's not much to do once you arrive.

There's also a bid from Wellington, although details remain sketchy. So sketchy, no one even knows whether it actually exists - the bid, not the town of course. As for PNG, they've put their bid emblem on the Broncos' shorts. Not quite sure how that helps their cause. Not that the Broncos are complaining.
All this and the NRL still has no idea whether it plans to expand. The suggestion is a decision will be made mid-year. If it comes down in favour of expansion, another bunfight is bound to break out between the bidding parties.
That final decision will rest with the eight wise men who will form the inaugural independent commission. Mind you, the identity of those eight men is almost as big a mystery as the chances of expansion. If the commission is anything to go by, a decision on expansion may not come for another decade.
Quite frankly, it's hard to keep up. The whole thing has rugby league in a flap. If that isn't enough, the game is also being haunted by a betting scandal. Allegations are flying, houses are being raided and players are being arrested. Granted, that bit sounds like your standard off-season in the NRL. Only this time there seems a genuine chance someone is headed to the big house. My instant reaction is to combine the two. So I phone my good friends at a betting agency and ask them to frame a phantom market on expansion in 2013. No problem they say, that's what we do. Before you know it, they were back to me with the odds.
No surprises with the favourites being Central Coast. The Bears have spent an eternity working on their bid. They're more advanced than anyone else. They've even got a coach in David Fairleigh. But they won't be getting my hard-earned. Can't see the other clubs going for that given Newcastle is only an Andrew Johns punt kick up the highway.
Next up is no expansion at all, which makes more sense. Why expand when the vast majority of your clubs are running at a loss. NRL clubs lose millions every year. Can you imagine their reaction when expansion is brought up. Sure, give the new clubs the money. We don't need it. We love losing money hand over fist.
Of the Queensland sides, the bookies are banking on Brisbane being the chosen one.
The rank outsider is PNG - the only country in the world where rugby league is a national sport - and Wellington, a city where rugby union is king.
Debate is bound to rage for months. The NRL won't be doing anything to hose down the promise of expansion. While consortiums are bidding to enter the competition, it makes rugby league appear in the rudest of health, which brings me back to where I started. I'm off to the gym. The game may be in rude health but yours truly isn't. I need to look after my own expansion.


Not a serious article I agree, but puts bid rankings in order & perspective. Thats why the Bears want another bid team to go hard in the next 4 months - expansion by 2 is more likely than by 1. With SEQ diluting its chances with every new bid, Perth looks a better bet for the 2nd license by the day.
 

Perth Red

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what a cr4p lazy article that was, talk about a journo not being 4r5ed to do any research and actually write about a subject. Must have taken him all of 4 minutes to put that together.
 
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