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Channel 9 wants to kill of a sydney club

AJB1102

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Makes you wonder if this has just been one big Newsltd sht stir and everyone has been suckered into responding to something that was never said?


"The NRL have raised discussions on a second team for Brisbane - we agree with that proposition because we believe the fans in that market will embrace it," Malone said on Monday.

"We’ve never suggested a Sydney-based club should be axed. Others have named clubs in a bid to introduce emotion into the discussion.
"It’s up to the NRL to decide if and how they put a second team in Brisbane."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ni...k-wants-sydney-club-axed-20190902-p52n6p.html

Malone was quoted that it'd be preferable to "discontinue" an existing club. The above quotes are him back-peddling after the majority of NRL fans said "f**k CH9".
 

Perth Red

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Agree, but mate Gould also stated ,Smith had no idea where the code was going to be down the line.
IOW no top execs had a clue.

None have as it has never been set as strategic priority. Until the NRL does that, and even now this latest review is only at the behest of one director in Beattie, then no CEO will take it on as a priority for the business. Sadly with the pathetic strategic plan they put out its virtually impossible to know what this current mobs strategic goals are, let alone how they will measure if they've reached them. If I hear one more time, "we want to increase our footprint, but that doesn't necessarily mean new clubs" I'll throw something at Greenberg!
At the very least Smith put out a decent strategic plan with some very measurable goals. The only NRL CEO in my 20 years being here that has.
The fact they failed to meet most of them is a different issue!
 

flippikat

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Plus what are you talking about the NFL has relocated teams a heap. And they are very aware of fans losing interest that is why they always change the rules to make sure coaches are not destroying the game.

As mentioned above, relocation in American leagues is usually initiated by the owner of the team that's going to relocate.

It's not usually imposed by the league itself, however I understand that their leagues require a vote of all the other owners to "approve" the relocation proposal. From what I gather that's usually one-sided in approval.

It would be interesting if a Sydney NRL club went broke & a NRL-negotiated relocation + bailout package had to go to an approval vote from the other 15 clubs!
 

taipan

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None have as it has never been set as strategic priority. Until the NRL does that, and even now this latest review is only at the behest of one director in Beattie, then no CEO will take it on as a priority for the business. Sadly with the pathetic strategic plan they put out its virtually impossible to know what this current mobs strategic goals are, let alone how they will measure if they've reached them. If I hear one more time, "we want to increase our footprint, but that doesn't necessarily mean new clubs" I'll throw something at Greenberg!
At the very least Smith put out a decent strategic plan with some very measurable goals. The only NRL CEO in my 20 years being here that has.
The fact they failed to meet most of them is a different issue!

It's not much good putting out a strategic plan, if wheels are not set in motion to get there.
 

Perth Red

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Malone was quoted that it'd be preferable to "discontinue" an existing club. The above quotes are him back-peddling after the majority of NRL fans said "f**k CH9".

Was that a direct quote or something that someone said he said? Link?
 

Perth Red

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It's not much good putting out a strategic plan, if wheels are not set in motion to get there.

Its better than not having a clear strategic plan, but not by much! I agree but getting a really clear plan with measurables and sharing it with stakeholders was a great step forward, putting in place the actions to meet the goals seems to have alluded Smith then Greenberg! Only in RL sigh.
 

taipan

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"That could come from another team being relocated there, or better still another club being discontinued and a new club established in Brisbane," Malone said.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/br...g-clubs-at-risk-of-axing-20190901-p52mrd.html

Or better still Malone to be punted, and someone with an understanding of rugby league fill his boots.This clown should also be looking at his commentary team, and ask himself are they performing up to scratch, is the commentary team jaded or tired, is Rabs past his use by date, is Gus too negative and this is a turnoff, is our lack of promotional work on the NRL a problem?
He's blaming everyone outside ,and completely ignoring inside his operation.Any CEO worth his salt should be questioning both aspects.
 

Travitoh

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Oh hang on, maybe people aren't sick to death of the Storm and Roosters.

I'm not despite the fact i dislike both clubs.

Plus what are you talking about the NFL has relocated teams a heap. And they are very aware of fans losing interest that is why they always change the rules to make sure coaches are not destroying the game.

The NFL don't relocate teams, the owners do. And who was the last NFL team in a strong market to be relocated? Were they successful?
 

T-Boon

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The NFL don't relocate teams, the owners do. And who was the last NFL team in a strong market to be relocated? Were they successful?

The owners of NFL teams would relocate from the over crowded Sydney market in an instance. Actually they would have done it 50 years ago. But its not like the NRL club owners (poker machine clubs) are going to relocate when they are poker machine clubs and they have a history of having no initiative at all, so yes in this instance the NRL is going to need to step in for the good of the clubs own selves.
But the point is that this talk comes up in part because of how bored everybody is with the current NRL. Everything about it is dull.
So a couple of league unlimited contributors are an exception, big deal.
Get over it.
Admit I am right.
Go on. Admit it.
 
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Bring'em back and dump the Broncos
 

Twizzle

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I like having the Warriors in the NRL.

Craddock saying they have done nothing is bullshit, what he probabaly meant to say is that they have not won a premiership in 25 years but that's not what he said.

They have been competitive enough in both grades to provide competition to other NRL teams.
 

Travitoh

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The owners of NFL teams would relocate from the over crowded Sydney market in an instance. Actually they would have done it 50 years ago. But its not like the NRL club owners (poker machine clubs) are going to relocate when they are poker machine clubs and they have a history of having no initiative at all, so yes in this instance the NRL is going to need to step in for the good of the clubs own selves.
But the point is that this talk comes up in part because of how bored everybody is with the current NRL. Everything about it is dull.
So a couple of league unlimited contributors are an exception, big deal.
Get over it.
Admit I am right.
Go on. Admit it.

Where would a NFL owner take a Sydney club?

This has become a story because channel 9 want an extra game in Brisbane each week but don't want to pay for a new team. The story isn't in the best interests of NRL, it is in the best interests of 9's ratings.
 

ACTPanthers

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The owners of NFL teams would relocate from the over crowded Sydney market in an instance. Actually they would have done it 50 years ago. But its not like the NRL club owners (poker machine clubs) are going to relocate when they are poker machine clubs and they have a history of having no initiative at all, so yes in this instance the NRL is going to need to step in for the good of the clubs own selves.
But the point is that this talk comes up in part because of how bored everybody is with the current NRL. Everything about it is dull.
So a couple of league unlimited contributors are an exception, big deal.
Get over it.
Admit I am right.
Go on. Admit it.
I love how you state things as fact when it’s just you talking out of your arse... Never change mate
 

BadnMean

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I like having the Warriors in the NRL.

Craddock saying they have done nothing is bullshit, what he probabaly meant to say is that they have not won a premiership in 25 years but that's not what he said.

They have been competitive enough in both grades to provide competition to other NRL teams.

It would be pretty dumb to cut the Warriors. Playing out of one of the biggest cities in the comp. Representing a region of a couple of million others besides.

The period of their existence has seen NZ go from fringe outpost to reliable talent supply, national team to world champions, genuine international competition etc. There is a market for the game there.

The club itself has never quite put it together. They get the toughest travel schedule in the comp. If anything they should get canvassed as to whether they support 2 week "away tours" & 2 week home stretches or similar to mediate this issue. It's the kind f thing the AFL has done with increased caps & draft picks etc for expansion clubs they know will benefit the league as a whole if given a break or two to even the playing field (equal is not equity).

We need NZ in the comp. One step closer to being a pisspoor suburban Sydney grade comp without it.
 

grouch

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Your first issue is that you place any value on anything that Phil Gould says. He is an agenda-driven ego maniac that holds views as consistent as Paul Kent's. He will complain about the referees penalising too much, only to follow up a week later that they weren't enforcing the play the ball hard enough. He complains about going to the video ref, but is the first to complain when they don't go. This season, this is my favourite, he has complained about double movement, because in 'his rule book' it would be allowed. He literally complains about the rules of the game.

The AFL has a track record of fudging it's numbers, including counting anyone who did an Auskick session at school as a junior player. It's the equivalent of the NRL counting any footy skills at schools as junior players, when they simply aren't. Let's also not get started on GWS crowds (or better yet, the "sellouts" in China).

Meanwhile, here is some numbers for you:
  • Country Rugby League is dying? In 2018, the CRL experienced an increase of 5.5% increase (after in 3.5% increase in 2017) in senior male players, and 28% in female players.
  • NSWRL in 2018 experienced a 60% year-on-year increase in female participation.

The NRL absolutely needs to expand. Doing so will not only increase the reach of the game, but will increase the revenue that will come into the game. The NRL is the highest rating sport in Australia, so Channel Nine are looking at how they can increase their revenue without increasing investment into the NRL. Channel Nine are positioning themselves to weaken the NRL's bargaining position.
Great post.

And yes people really need to realise Gould is a fraud.
 

Valheru

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Truth hurts champ. But then again you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the pointy bit, being a Rorter fan.

Why truth are you referring to?

Your club is a failure, that is the fault of your club and no one else.
 

adamkungl

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I like having the Warriors in the NRL.

Craddock saying they have done nothing is bullshit, what he probabaly meant to say is that they have not won a premiership in 25 years but that's not what he said.

They have been competitive enough in both grades to provide competition to other NRL teams.

Feels like it's been about 25 years since the Broncos have done anything maybe Cradock should look in his own backyard.
Is being a complete f**kwit a prerequisite for signing on as a Courier Mail writer?
 
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