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Clarke dropped!

The Colonel

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lockyno1 said:
Symonds was runnout, that happens it is cricket. He bowled well in the first dig, bowled tightly and allowed them to attack at the other end. He will be much better in Adelaide where he can bowl spin. I am not saying he is our answer to the all-rounder, Watson PROBALLY is, but at the moment he is the best we have got!

Against the WI he isn't needed. It is a luxury we can ill-afford if injuries occur to our bowling stocks. Play five bowlers if they must. Symonds is a OD specialist not an all rounder. He bowled nude nuts......
 

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The all rounder is already there. Stop playing Gilchrist at 6 and put him back at 7 and bring in a batsman. Symonds and Watson should be competing for the middle order not as all rounders.....

I have said this many times but when we have no warne, no mcgrath we are struggling to bowl teams out twice to win test matches. We need that 5th bowler. That bowler is probally going to be watson or henriqes. Currently watson has to improve and I am prepared to give him time. Symonds is only ever going to be a short term option.
 

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Against the WI he isn't needed. It is a luxury we can ill-afford if injuries occur to our bowling stocks. Play five bowlers if they must. Symonds is a OD specialist not an all rounder. He bowled nude nuts......

If Symonds wasn't needed why do we need a 5th bowler who would be just as under-used? Symonds is playing as a batsman who can bowl a bit similar to watson. We need to give them time guys!
 

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If Symonds wasn't needed why do we need a 5th bowler who would be just as under-used? Symonds is playing as a batsman who can bowl a bit similar to watson. We need to give them time guys!

Get a fifth bowler into the team who can be used as a stock bowler and can learn the ropes. Wasting it on a part timer like Symonds who isn't a long term option is more a waste than playing a fifth bowler.....
 

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Get a fifth bowler into the team who can be used as a stock bowler and can learn the ropes. Wasting it on a part timer like Symonds who isn't a long term option is more a waste than playing a fifth bowler.....

No because quite frankly unless you are going to play someone other than Bracken (who can't swing the ball even at state level on flat pitches) or Clark, pfft. Then there is just as much chance of symonds getting wickets at adelaide considering it is a flat pitch, as much as those two NSW bowlers. Symonds I'd rate a better chance of scoring more rund too.
 

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Watson was actually meant to be able to bat and bowl ;-) Symonds is definitely in there to bat and bowl to keep it tight. Ponting isn't expecting much from Symonds.
 

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Rammo said:
As a New South Welshman I can admit that New South Wales players get special treatment with selectors.

Why can't the Queenslanders admit the same thing though?

I'm sick of people having a go at each other on here regarding the way players from their respective staes performed.

We're all Australian ffs, judge players individually and don't favour them because they're from your state.

10-15 years ago QLD got preference. But it is not that NSW get players picked it is what players. Katich, Clark, Bracken. I'll take the others but jeez players like Lewis, Bichel, Kasper, Brad Williams, Inness, Crosgrove, Hodge, Hussey. Gosh you name them. I would take all of these players ahead of the NSW players!
 

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aussies1st said:
Watson was actually meant to be able to bat and bowl ;-) Symonds is definitely in there to bat and bowl to keep it tight. Ponting isn't expecting much from Symonds.

Watson can bat and bowl but he will take time. People forget that it took watson a while to get used to first class cricket. It took Flintoff 3 YEARS before he got to where he is now. Symonds is primarily a batsman who can bowl a bit.
 

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Watson can bat and bowl but he will take time. People forget that it took watson a while to get used to first class cricket. It took Flintoff 3 YEARS before he got to where he is now. Symonds is primarily a batsman who can bowl a bit.

If Watson moved to NSW he wouldn't have all these people commenting on him ;-)
 

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Symonds might have failed but give the man ago. Sure if he fails in the next test drop him but one bad innings in a situation where they were miles ahead he shouldnt be given the axe. clarke has been given 3 or 4+ matches to proove himself but has failed.. I personally think Ponting should of gave him ago with his off spiners as they are definatley more effective and could of produced more on a pitch where it was doing more for the spinners. .
Symonds has proven he is a deadly weapon when under pressure. I'm a NSW guy but i take my hat off to symonds for what he has done with his career in the last 2-3 years.
If Australia's top order fail and is left to the middle order to get the runs symonds is one of the best cricketers to adapt and get you the runs. He thrives on pressure moments e.g 2003 world cup.
Symonds would be more handy at the crease then a struggling michael clarke. Symonds was unlucky in the second test, run out off a great piece of fielding.
If he wasnt usefull he wouldnt of got 2 50's against WI for queensland and wouldnt of been picked.

All i'm saying is Don't be so negative towards him, he has proven to be a threat to any side in pressure situations.
 

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Symmonds' selection is bullsh*t. He can't bowl at all, he doesn't even LOOK like taking a wicket. As for his batting, it's ok, but there's a hell of lot of people further up the queue than him that deserve a shot.

Symmonds is and forever will be a nuffy at test level.
 

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It's got nothing to do with Symmonds being a queenslander. I didn't like Watson but I was willing to give him a chance, because there is definately potential there. But Symmonds, ffs. He'll never be better than a part time bowler and a bloke than bat ok. It's like playing Ian Harvey in the test team.
 

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JJ said:
nope - Fleming, Astle, Marshall and Styris are all better - sorry - you can keep him!

Whose the idiot wanting to give Clarke to NZ? He will come right, everyone has these bad patches. Clarke has shown he has got real potential.
 

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JJ said:
nope - Fleming, Astle, Marshall and Styris are all better - sorry - you can keep him!

he's better than those three put together

we'll see how good a judge you are in a year or so
 

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aussies1st said:
I'm sure locky made the call secretly ;-)

No I actaully have nothing against Clarke to be honest and unlike Katich, becuase he is young, I am prepared to give him time. But to be honest he has been awful for the last 12 months and is struggling against this WI side. His dropping is fair, but unlike Katich I wish him well to get back in the side. But when he comes back he should be at no6 not no4. Currently Clarke is a waste in this team considering there are better batsmen around the country. He is still young and should improve.
 

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