Commission to outlaw 'shoulder charge'

[hellteam]

Yes!!!!

 

[BunniesMan]

It is over. The RLPA is irrelevant.

And will people please stop going on and on about the players opinions. Yes many are genuine in their opinions, as foolish as they are, but any players who are for the shoulder charge ban would never in a million years say so in public.

If I was an NRL player I'd be as for it as I am now, would I say that? f**k no. After the sooking going on from so many members of the public and other players any player who came out as supporting this would be castrating.

The only way players opinions could be accurately measured would be in a private poll. Oh wait...they had one of those and couldn't be bothered answering.

The shoulder charge is gone. It is not coming back under any circumstances. The ARLC did not make this decision lightly. They knew it would be unpopular because there are so many stupid people around. They would never have made the decision if there was any chance of them changing their minds.

 

[docbrown]

The ban is f**king bullshit.

 

[Apey]

Not always but sometimes popular opinion should be ignored. That's why we have representative parliaments rather than direct democracy. That's why we have presidents and prime ministers instead of putting everything to a vote. And that's why we have a commission instead of just ringing up fans around the country and asking them to vote for what they want.

Some things are just not understood by the average fan and average player. Some things are above them. Including this.

Typical idiot fan/player: I want big boom! I want shoulder charge!
ARLC: Shoulder charges can result in serious long term injury. We have been warned by all 16 club doctors unanimously as well as multiple other experts that shoulder charges are significantly more dangerous than the normal tackle. If we ignore this advice we are vulnerable to multiple lawsuits in the future that could cost the game tens of millions of dollars and put the future health of the game at risk.
Typical idiot fan/player: Don't care about the long term. You're killing rugby league!
ARLC: We're sorry you feel that way but it is our job to lookout for the long term future of the sport of rugby league, we feel this decision is critical to the games future. We feel not taking action now puts the game at serious risk. We understand this is an unpopular decision but it is a very necessary one.
Typical idiot: That's it! Let's march on the NRL!

It is over. The RLPA is irrelevant.

And will people please stop going on and on about the players opinions. Yes many are genuine in their opinions, as foolish as they are, but any players who are for the shoulder charge ban would never in a million years say so in public.

If I was an NRL player I'd be as for it as I am now, would I say that? f**k no. After the sooking going on from so many members of the public and other players any player who came out as supporting this would be castrating.

The only way players opinions could be accurately measured would be in a private poll. Oh wait...they had one of those and couldn't be bothered answering.

The shoulder charge is gone. It is not coming back under any circumstances. The ARLC did not make this decision lightly. They knew it would be unpopular because there are so many stupid people around. They would never have made the decision if there was any chance of them changing their minds.

please just die, please.

 

[miguel de cervantes]

please bring it back just to spite bunniesman. a couple of deaths a year would be well worth it.

 

[RWB]

Not always but sometimes popular opinion should be ignored. That's why we have representative parliaments rather than direct democracy. That's why we have presidents and prime ministers instead of putting everything to a vote. And that's why we have a commission instead of just ringing up fans around the country and asking them to vote for what they want.

Some things are just not understood by the average fan and average player. Some things are above them. Including this.

Typical idiot fan/player: I want big boom! I want shoulder charge!
ARLC: Shoulder charges can result in serious long term injury. We have been warned by all 16 club doctors unanimously as well as multiple other experts that shoulder charges are significantly more dangerous than the normal tackle. If we ignore this advice we are vulnerable to multiple lawsuits in the future that could cost the game tens of millions of dollars and put the future health of the game at risk.
Typical idiot fan/player: Don't care about the long term. You're killing rugby league!
ARLC: We're sorry you feel that way but it is our job to lookout for the long term future of the sport of rugby league, we feel this decision is critical to the games future. We feel not taking action now puts the game at serious risk. We understand this is an unpopular decision but it is a very necessary one.
Typical idiot: That's it! Let's march on the NRL!

:lol: You made my night. I hope for your sake you're a troll.

 

[kmav23]

Some people on this board may not have finished high school...they have no idea.

Any board (company or club) must do their due diligence especially on legal issues.

When you have all 16 club doctors and legal advice to ban the shoulder charge, do you think there is any other choice?

 

[adamkungl]

BunniesMan says it's over. This gives me hope.

 

[adamkungl]

Some people on this board may not have finished high school...they have no idea.

Any board (company or club) must do their due diligence especially on legal issues.

When you have all 16 club doctors and legal advice to ban the shoulder charge, do you think there is any other choice?

There is no legal issue you nuffy.

 

[reanimate]

Not always but sometimes popular opinion should be ignored. That's why we have representative parliaments rather than direct democracy. That's why we have presidents and prime ministers instead of putting everything to a vote. And that's why we have a commission instead of just ringing up fans around the country and asking them to vote for what they want.

Some things are just not understood by the average fan and average player. Some things are above them. Including this.

Typical idiot fan/player: I want big boom! I want shoulder charge!
ARLC: Shoulder charges can result in serious long term injury. We have been warned by all 16 club doctors unanimously as well as multiple other experts that shoulder charges are significantly more dangerous than the normal tackle. If we ignore this advice we are vulnerable to multiple lawsuits in the future that could cost the game tens of millions of dollars and put the future health of the game at risk.
Typical idiot fan/player: Don't care about the long term. You're killing rugby league!
ARLC: We're sorry you feel that way but it is our job to lookout for the long term future of the sport of rugby league, we feel this decision is critical to the games future. We feel not taking action now puts the game at serious risk. We understand this is an unpopular decision but it is a very necessary one.
Typical idiot: That's it! Let's march on the NRL!

And some Rugby League 'fans' like AFL, we definitely shouldn't listen to anything they have to say.

Btw, adamkungl, I completely agree with what you said a few pages back. And I also agree with Masoe_eats_babies, what on Earth are they defining as a shoulder charge if there's apparently only 0.3 per game? What are they actually banning and what's still allowed?

Whatever they've banned, fans and players aren't happy- we should keep making more and more noise until they're forced to change their minds. We don't want to take the chance of good, solid hits from the shoulder forever being banned and the game becoming a stupid penalty-a-thon. We have Union for that.

 

[RWB]

Some people on this board may not have finished high school...they have no idea.

Any board (company or club) must do their due diligence especially on legal issues.

When you have all 16 club doctors and legal advice to ban the shoulder charge, do you think there is any other choice?

Judging people's intelligence based on their level of education is laughable, it already shows up your ignorance.

Shoulder charges aren't dangerous, hitting someone in the head is. Policing this is what needs to be done, not just banning the shoulder charge.

 

[kmav23]

There is no legal issue you nuffy.

have you finished high school ?

the board already obtained legal advice that they will be likely liable for litigation.

disregard their own 16 club doctors and their own legal advice....lol will not happen.

the doctors know more about health then you

the barristers know more about law then you

 

[kmav23]

Judging people's intelligence based on their level of education is laughable, it already shows up your ignorance.

Shoulder charges aren't dangerous, hitting someone in the head is. Policing this is what needs to be done, not just banning the shoulder charge.

drink driving and speeding is not dangerous

hitting someone with the car is...

 

[kmav23]

One more point..

mothers will prevent sons playing the game if doctors are saying brain damage from shoulder charges...will occur...

AFL have reduced physical head contact.... and they are as popular as ever...

 

[adamkungl]

Proof of legal advice? Haven't seen it mentioned in any articles.
In any case, as has been brought up countless times before, it would be like a boxer suing for getting punched in the head. You can't f**king sue someone for getting hurt playing a violent game that you chose to play. This isn't the NFL and this isn't the US.

Health doesn't come into it. The injury rate is negligable, even with the stats twisted to provide the outcome they wanted.

Doctor's would advise you to play touch footy if they were that worried about concussions.

 

[adamkungl]

One more point..

mothers will prevent sons playing the game if doctors are saying brain damage from shoulder charges...will occur...

AFL have reduced physical head contact.... and they are as popular as ever...

Dopey mothers will always prevent kids from playing contact sports.

AFL allows shoulder charges.

f**k me we're softer than AFL now.

 

[RWB]

drink driving and speeding is not dangerous

hitting someone with the car is...

Irrelevant, drinking is a variable you've added to the situation.

Your sentence in a fair comparison would read;

Driving is not dangerous, hitting someone with the car is.

Are you for banning Driving due to the minimal risk it does posses when the act of driving is done incorrectly or recklessly because it can result in the loss of life or serious injury?

Now, how can we prevent this...

- More hours for L platers
- Compulsory safety driving classes
- Advertising
- etc
- etc

This is what the NRL needs to do.

Shoulder charges are not dangerous, hitting someone in the head is.

Now what incentives and disincentives can we put it place to make sure that coaches and players are far more cautious when pulling off the shoulder charge;

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[Masoe_eats_babies]

And some Rugby League 'fans' like AFL, we definitely shouldn't listen to anything they have to say.

Btw, adamkungl, I completely agree with what you said a few pages back. And I also agree with Masoe_eats_babies, what on Earth are they defining as a shoulder charge if there's apparently only 0.3 per game? What are they actually banning and what's still allowed?

Whatever they've banned, fans and players aren't happy- we should keep making more and more noise until they're forced to change their minds. We don't want to take the chance of good, solid hits from the shoulder forever being banned and the game becoming a stupid penalty-a-thon. We have Union for that.

That's a good question that the sooner they clear up the better. I've just heard new Warriors coach Elliott saying that the ban does not apply to Ben Matulino, because Ben Matulino doesn't shoulder charge, he's "making tackles where he hits with his shoulder. There's a big difference"

Now by every definition I've ever known what Ben does is shoulder charge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqKd66nQUU

What else can you call that? There aren't any real use of the arms, he's just smashing blokes shoulder to shoulder.

I'm baffled.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Irrelevant, drinking is a variable you've added to the situation.

Your sentence in a fair comparison would read;

Driving is not dangerous, hitting someone with the car is.

Are you for banning Driving due to the minimal risk it does posses when the act of driving is done incorrectly or recklessly because it can result in the loss of life or serious injury?

Now, how can we prevent this...

- More hours for L platers
- Compulsory safety driving classes
- Advertising
- etc
- etc

This is what the NRL needs to do.

Shoulder charges are not dangerous, hitting someone in the head is.

Now what incentives and disincentives can we put it place to make sure that coaches and players are far more cautious when pulling off the shoulder charge;

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I think kmav is just a troll, he just yaps on and on about x number of doctors say x. While ignoring the hundred times people have brought up that doctors will say everything should be banned if you asked them in a player welfare context

 

[adamkungl]

McGuirk worded it as 'hitting without attempting to wrap with arms' or something to that effect.