Commission to outlaw 'shoulder charge'

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Just outlaw the use of the shoulder to keep this guy happy

I'm a big advocate of keeping the shoulder charge. I just think it's funny all these anti-shoulder charge people on this forum, in the media and such, doctors too, have been trying to take the moral high ground, telling us how the shoulder charge must be eradicated because it's dangerous, and player wealth is super cerial yo

flashforward a few games into the season and these same buffoons have convinced themselves that they were right all along, that that game has lost nothing now the shoulder charge is dead... without realising that nothings changed and they're still happening

Long may the shoulder charge continue on, and respect to the NRL if this was their grand plan all along!

 

[attila_the_gorilla]

Refs are still adapting and struggling a bit with the enforcing the rule. It will happen gradually.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Refs are still adapting and struggling a bit with the enforcing the rule. It will happen gradually.

That's the worry.

I guess this is a good example of the sometime positive results of institutional incompetence(if like me you happened to disagree with the ban). NRL refs are too gutless, or stupid, or a combination of the two, to pull players up, or recognise when a shoulder charge happens 5 foot in front of them in the first place.

It'll probably end up once they get in their rhythm a little like the high tackle rule, where tackling high is banned, but unless it's in-your-face blatant, pun intended, they're generally overlooked.

 

[franklin2323]

Here's a JWH hit from last year which is identical to Sandows in everything but result(Hargreaves lifted his man about 20 foot in the air)

Do you think if this round a big lad like JWH or Tom Learoyd Lars hit someone like that and flattened them that the refs would let it go, the loose arm makes a bit of gay contact after all.... i doubt it, but i hope so! would be a great interpretation that players can exploit easily

I Notice all those hits are to the head always going to be penalties.
How many tackles did Sandow miss? 5. So no proof that this wasn't a missed tackle also. There is no way of stopping the shoulder charges a criteria had to be done. Arm makes contact 1st seems to be the rule.

 

[chrisD]

The whole argument was it's too dangerous if one misses the target and hits a player in the head. So by that logic if Sandow's shoulder charge which wasn't a shoulder charge hit the player's head that wouldn't have been too dangerous because he stuck his other irrelevant arm out in some random direction.

There is no rule seems to be the rule. We've had one bullshit all stars game penalty, and another round 1 which was late. It's bullshit, funny and good.

I give the NRL credit, say some shit, pretend like you're doing the "responsible" thing, pander to the dickheads, and really just keep on keeping on.

What they're going to do right, is continue on letting everything go until someone hits someone in the head. Then they're going to throw the book at them and say how lucky it is we banned the shoulder charge or this shit would be happening all the time. It's genius.

 

[Springs]

Except that Burgess already hit Pearce in the head last week. Luckily it wasn't too dangerous for some reason.

 

[eozsmiles]

Sandow's left arm makes the difference. He gets it in between the ball carrier and the other defender. So while his shoulder makes contact with the ball carrier, his arm is in position to wrap around or grab the defender. And that's all he has to do. Doesn't actually have to complete an arm tackle, just has to look like he tried.

To make things really simple, if you attempt to get your arm into the tackle as well as your shoulder, play on.

 

[afinalsin666]

Everyone attempting a shoulder charge needs to run in like this. Apparently it's then a-ok.

 

[chrisD]

Except that Burgess already hit Pearce in the head last week. Luckily it wasn't too dangerous for some reason.

Yeah but that wasn't a shoulder charge. Someone is going to hit someone in the head with a shoulder charge, considering it's not really banned, and then the NRL will sit back and shrug and say we've done all we could, we banned the shoulder charge.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Everyone attempting a shoulder charge needs to run in like this. Apparently it's then a-ok.

Haha that's great.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Sandow's left arm makes the difference. He gets it in between the ball carrier and the other defender. So while his shoulder makes contact with the ball carrier, his arm is in position to wrap around or grab the defender. And that's all he has to do. Doesn't actually have to complete an arm tackle, just has to look like he tried.

To make things really simple, if you attempt to get your arm into the tackle as well as your shoulder, play on.

That doesn't make any difference. How does doing that limit the risk of concussions and head knocks? Having that arm there, doing nothing other than being there, doesn't solve this player safety crisis we were told the shoulder charge presented.

What's the point of the shoulder charge rule if such a piss poor effort(i doubt there was any effort on Sandows part to be honest) is accepted as legit :lol: Like I asked rhetorically on the other page. Is the James shoulder charge from last year still legal this year, because he sort of grasps him with his other arm?

Coming soon to an NRL game near you

and of course the original

 

[adamkungl]

It's a joke isnt it. Clear shoulder charge, laughably bad interpretation. Love it.

 

[beave]

Yeah i thought sandows was a shoulder charge and was surprised (but happy) they didnt penalise him for it.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Sandow said himself it was a shoulder charge, but maybe he doesn't know what one is either

At least now we know that it's going to be sort of allowed we might get to see SBW, Burgess etc going in for the big shots like we know they can.

 

[adamkungl]

Sandow said himself it was a shoulder charge, but maybe he doesn't know what one is either

At least now we know that it's going to be sort of allowed we might get to see SBW, Burgess etc going in for the big shots like we know they can.

You won't see that, if a big forward (especially one with JWHs rep or similar) put on Sandow's hit last night they'd have been penalised and probably suspended.

 

[Perth Red]

Sandow def shoulder charge and video ref had every opportunity to call it, another one in last nights game that was a blatant shoulder not penalised. Anyone thinking the NRL has told refs not to worry about penalising unless it is a head shot?

 

[some11]

But magpie4ever says its gone and forgotten!

Masoe providing clear evidence it's here to stay, just limp an arm out and you wont get pinged :lol:

 

[NrlCoach]

After Nathan Merritt got penalized for a shoulder charge.

Getting penalised for hard tough footy. The game has gone soft.

 

[thorson1987]

After Nathan Merritt got penalized for a shoulder charge.

And that one was a deadset shoulder charge. Straight to the head aswell.

 

[adamkungl]

This is getting more embarrassing every week.

I don't know what's worse, the pissweak penalties for good clean hits, or the absurd inconsistency in the policing of it.

We are getting closer to the day where a shoulder charge penalty ruins a game, and f**k I hope it's against one of the popular teams.