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CONFIRMED - Canadian team to enter English leagues

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Our west coast eyes have been watching the goings-on south of the border with PRO Rugby North America and the far-afield machinations of Super Rugby with appropriate interest.

After all, the two rugby union competitions feature the the game we know best. But as all our attention has focused on those two leagues, a third entry has been bubbling along: the Rugby Football League.

Now they’re ready to make their Canadian move.

The 13-a-side version of professional rugby will debut in Toronto a year from now. A big press conference is slated for next week, where it will be announced that Toronto will have a team playing in League 1 , the third tier of rugby league in the UK. The team has apparently already inked a handful of players to contracts.

The aim is to make the elite Super League by the summer of 2019. The Super League is where all the money is at. There’s big time exposure on Sky Sports in the UK, and there’s solid exposure down under too; Australia and the north of England are the global hotbeds of rugby league.

The Toronto Star has been on the case for a while, confirming much of the details and interested parties last fall.

Most Canadians know the fifteen-a-side rugby union. To the untrained eye, league and union might seem the same, but without much viewing, you’ll see the differences. Advocates of both games will tell you the other is plodding and boring. To this writer, both games have their merits and both have potential to appeal to a North American sports audience.

Whatever it is, both Eric Perez, the Canadian driving the new team, and the Rugby Football League, who run the professional game in the UK, believe Toronto is the right place to start. Perez is a guy who, according to the Star, went to the UK and fell in love with league. It’s a game which North American fans will quickly understand and get into.

(Like rugby sevens, the ball is seemingly always in play in rugby league. That’s a key point for fans who often look at rugby union and say “I have no idea what’s going on.”)

The RFL, the British governing body, clearly believes in the project. They’ve got aims for the American sports market, just like we know Super Rugby does. The RFL’s English rugby union counterparts have big dreams too – they played a game in New Jersey on St. Patrick’s day.

There’s also apparently Australian money backing this Toronto project.LEEDS, UNITED KINGDOM - MARCH 13: Brian Noble, coach of Wigan Warriors looks on during the engage Super League match between Leeds Rhinos and Wigan Warriors at Headingley Stadium on March 13, 2009 in Leeds, England. (Photo by Matthew Lewis/Getty Images)

The early evidence for rugby league’s potential in Toronto has been strong. The Canadian Wolverines, the national team, has played a handful of games over the past couple summers at Lamport Stadium and has drawn crowds upwards of 7,000. The fans may not know much about what’s going on, but like last month’s successful Canada Sevens in Vancouver, Canadian sports fans are looking for a fun atmosphere and are ready to be impressed.

As for the team itself, it’s going to be run by a pair of strong names. Brian Noble will be Director of Rugby. He’s got a long, solid resume of success coaching and playing in the UK – “a Pat Quinn-type” is how BC Bulldogs head coach and Canada Wolverines assistant coach Andy Blackburn described him to me. Paul Rowley will be the coach; he’s another with a strong track record, having played in England for many years and in recent seasons coaching the Leigh Centurions. He resigned from his position in February.

The team will play home stands in four week blocks and then travel to the UK and France for four-week long road trips. Given how Canadian fans are used to their teams being on the road for weeks at a time, that won’t be too strange. It will be for the players, most of whom will come from the UK. (There will be a Canadian scouting operation, as finding a new source of talent is also very appealing for the RFL.)

The logistics, no doubt, are challenging. The costs will be high, especially while the team is outside the Super League. But it’s going to be interesting to watch.
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/04...-toronto-team/
 

titoelcolombiano

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Love it! Hope it goes ahead and is successful. In a few years time we could have two French sides and a Canadian side in the twelve team Super League. Well done RFL and Eric Perez.

Should Toulouse and Toronto make SL in the next few years this will also mean it will be the beginnings of the following nations have a pool of professionals to choose from playing in ESL or NRL:

England
Australia
New Zealand
PNG (Ex-Hunters players feeding into the NRL)
Fiji (Ex-NSW cup side players feeding into the NRL)
France (Catalans and Toulouse)
Canada
Wales (Ex-Crusaders and Scorpions players feeding into SL)

This will create a much stronger and more credible international game where countries are developing their own players rather than relying on heritage players.
 

RedVee

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Will playing for Toronto for some years entitle Canadian eligibility on residential grounds?
 

The Great Dane

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By the ways that it's being reported it sounds like the Canadians business plan is reliant on the team making the Super League as soon as possible, that is a very risky prospect if you ask me and I hope they have a contingency plan if things don't work out that way.

However I can think of quite a few Nswcup and Qcup players and even a few ex-NRL players who could be convinced take massive unders to go on an extended holiday to Toronto to finish up their careers that could give the team a massive experience and talent boost (definitely a big enough boost to get them though League One at least).
 

adamkungl

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Whatever happens it can only push the sport forward. Exciting times imo

Plus another team to flog the hopeless Welsh teams..
 
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flamin

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Press conference on Wednesday.

Their goal is Super League by 2019.

Hopefully this is just another step towards a North-American pro-competition.
 

yakstorm

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I feel SL in 3 years is a tad ambitious. Even Toulouse gave themselves 5 years to make the step up. Regardless hopefully they can make the step up to the Championship quickly so they are mixing it with other Pro teams as soon as possible.
 

Pommy

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By the ways that it's being reported it sounds like the Canadians business plan is reliant on the team making the Super League as soon as possible, that is a very risky prospect if you ask me and I hope they have a contingency plan if things don't work out that way.

However I can think of quite a few Nswcup and Qcup players and even a few ex-NRL players who could be convinced take massive unders to go on an extended holiday to Toronto to finish up their careers that could give the team a massive experience and talent boost (definitely a big enough boost to get them though League One at least).

We can pray Mundine is one of them. It would be great to see clips of him getting flogged by amateur players. It would really brighten up Facebook.
 

Evil Homer

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Whatever happens it can only push the sport forward. Exciting times imo

Plus another team to flog the hopeless Welsh teams..
North Wales aren't bad to be fair, they were unlucky to drop out of the Championship when it restructured a few years ago and ran into some money troubles because of that which meant they lost a lot of their better players. They really should be pushing for promotion, hopefully they can get back to the level they were at before too long.
We can pray Mundine is one of them. It would be great to see clips of him getting flogged by amateur players. It would really brighten up Facebook.
There are no amateur players in League 1.
 

Pommy

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North Wales aren't bad to be fair, they were unlucky to drop out of the Championship when it restructured a few years ago and ran into some money troubles because of that which meant they lost a lot of their better players. They really should be pushing for promotion, hopefully they can get back to the level they were at before too long.There are no amateur players in League 1.

I thought it was a mixture of amateurs and semi pros? Oh well my point stands about seeing him getting flogged.
 

adamkungl

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Yeah can you clarify?

People were talking about Oldham being part-timers, and theyre a Championship team.

What are the salary caps in Championship and League One
 

latingringo101

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I'm surprised because the CC1 teams were upset at Toulouse being granted a place, but apparently they fully supported a team from 3000 miles away.
 

Evil Homer

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Yeah can you clarify?

People were talking about Oldham being part-timers, and theyre a Championship team.

What are the salary caps in Championship and League One
Part-timers=semi pro. Most of the Championship clubs will have maybe a couple of full-time players and then the rest are signed to part-time contracts, meaning they're on less money, only train 3/4 times a week and have a day job. Oldham are a smaller club and I guess don't have any full-time players, and some of their lesser players might just be on match payments, meaning they wouldn't be paid a wage and would just receive a minimal fee whenever they play.

In terms of League 1, most of the players especially from the smaller clubs will just be on match payments. They aren't amateurs though, although in many cases the amateur players from places like Castleford and Leigh would actually be better than the semi-pros from elsewhere, which is why a number of the League 1 clubs lost to amateur clubs in the Challenge Cup.

League 1 cap is £250,000. Championship cap is a lot more complicated than that, in theory it's the same as Super League but it's contingent on income.
 

Perth Red

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Perth should apply, best chance of us getting decent standard RL in the next decade or Two!
 

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