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If they were to strip points - you can officially chuck an asterisks next to any side who didn’t win their first two game if they go on to win the comp.

Compromises everything.


I thought the scrapping of points is only in relation to splitting the comp into conferences? If so, do you put the winners in the same group or put them with the loses virtually guaranteeing qualification into the next round? Puts a whole new perspective on March premieres.

You’d have to put an asterisk regardless what they do this year.
 

TheFrog

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Lol, sorry it’s just really weird to see Parramatta in a list of “good run clubs”.

Been a while since that has happened.
They did say after their last spoon they had to be more like Panthers. Not sure it's happened though. How many of the Eels first grade side debuted with the club? Even by that measure they get a bonus in Sivo who was bought from elsewhere.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I know it's only a rumour, but why would the competition points be reset? Everyone had a full off-season to train and prepare, and apart from the crowds and the uncertainty of the comp - everyone was on an even playing field, were they not? Our draw isn't equal in any case (teams playing some once, some twice etc) so what's the issue?

I could be wrong on this because I didn't follow the comp closely in all the shit going on but the only side compromised was us moving our home game to the Gold Coast, was it not? And like f**k we deserve a chance to be 0-0 again. We were f**king hopeless and deserve to start 0-2.
 

Canard

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I know it's only a rumour, but why would the competition points be reset? Everyone had a full off-season to train and prepare, and apart from the crowds and the uncertainty of the comp - everyone was on an even playing field, were they not? Our draw isn't equal in any case (teams playing some once, some twice etc) so what's the issue?

I could be wrong on this because I didn't follow the comp closely in all the shit going on but the only side compromised was us moving our home game to the Gold Coast, was it not? And like f**k we deserve a chance to be 0-0 again. We were f**king hopeless and deserve to start 0-2.

An option is to create a 2 or 3 team conference, which might have 4 games max before finals would happen.

So IF they did this (big IF), teams starting on 4 points would basically be automatically through and teams on 0 would potentially be eliminated with one regular season loss.
 

Sonny83

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my suggestion for this season reboot format is knockout stages, 16 teams with 8 on each sides to fight for a winner. No 2nd chances and guarantee high viewers with each and every games.

Perhaps also having 5-games SOO and 3-games GF to get some money back for the NRL.
 

Canard

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my suggestion for this season reboot format is knockout stages, 16 teams with 8 on each sides to fight for a winner. No 2nd chances and guarantee high viewers with each and every games.

Perhaps also having 5-games SOO and 3-games GF to get some money back for the NRL.

It would be a great one off variant, but it would struggle to get any interest out of TV stations, because you are reducing the games by half every other week.
 

King hit

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AFL doesn't, they have just got a line of credit for $600mill to see them through. Doubt cricket does either. No business carries large cash surpluses, hence why Myers, Qantas etc etc are standing down staff without pay.
At least with this coronavirus shit we will see how truthful flogball really is financially. They tell so many lies.
 

Vic Mackey

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I totally understand why clubs such as Knights, Eels etc would be against losing points from the first 2 games.

The most ideal scenario would be a 15 round competition where everyone plays each other once and the first 2 rounds stand.

However if the two conferences becomes the only way a season can continue then the points simply can’t stand. It’s an entirely new competition. You can’t have for instance Parramatta getting 2 points for beating the Titans, when no one else in their conference gets to play them. Same as Sharks and Manly losing 2 points against the Storm.

Keeping points from those games would be as ridiculous as saying that the trials and 9s games from earlier in the year now count as competition points.
 
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SpaceMonkey

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I totally understand why clubs such as Knights, Eels etc would be against losing points from the first 2 games.

The most ideal scenario would be a 15 round competition where everyone plays each other once and the first 2 rounds stand.

However if the two conferences becomes the only way a season can continue then the points simply can’t stand. It’s an entirely new competition. You can’t have for instance Parramatta getting 2 points for beating the Titans, when no one else gets to play them. Same as Sharks and Manly losing 2 points against the Storm.

Keeping points from those games would be as ridiculous as saying that the trials and 9s games from earlier in the year now count as competition points.

ideally you’d set conferences up so that the games already played fit into the conference structure. But whether that’s actually workable I don’t know.
 

Vic Mackey

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ideally you’d set conferences up so that the games already played fit into the conference structure. But whether that’s actually workable I don’t know.

it would be great however I believe the conferences will made up geographically. So I would imagine a Sydney one and a non Sydney one
 

SpaceMonkey

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it would be great however I believe the conferences will made up geographically. So I would imagine a Sydney one and a non Sydney one

works. I guess we move one Sydney team to the non-Sydney conference to even up numbers, which one goes? Dragons because they’re only half Sydney?
 

lockyno1

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and there’s the broncos fan lol.
No they don’t suffer, they can use their surplus to fund jnr RL, give to shareholders, private owners can keep the profits, they can donate it to charity, Or here’s an idea, it could be used to build an asset base so the game never finds itself in this nightmare situation again!

i don’t give a sht how they feel and nor should the commission. That’s the current problem of vested interests leading the game into dead end alleyways.
Clubs can’t be trusted, clubs want to win and will spend whatever they can keeping up. We don’t have an equal situation for clubs, take news ltd broncos with a city of 2 million potential fans and a billionaire owner compared to say titans with 500k catchment.

Capping total expenditure is an obvious move to support clubs to build sustainability and stops the nrl having to continually up the club grant at the expense of other areas of investment in the game

How can’t a side like Brisbane or for that matter Souths be trusted. Parramatta too. These clubs have shown how to do it and do it...and why should Brisbane not get advantages of good governance internally. Why should we pay for other sides it’s up to them to be profitable.

Whilst spending should be reviewed a league wide rule is ridiculous. Every club is different.
 

Perth Red

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How can’t a side like Brisbane or for that matter Souths be trusted. Parramatta too. These clubs have shown how to do it and do it...and why should Brisbane not get advantages of good governance internally. Why should we pay for other sides it’s up to them to be profitable.

Whilst spending should be reviewed a league wide rule is ridiculous. Every club is different.

Eels have needed bailing out to the tune of nearly $20mill from their LC in the last few years. Not sure why you keep holding them up as some bastion of good business? So basically 2 out of 16 clubs, and one of them with more advantage by far than any other, are being run well. Seems a great reason to sort this sht out for the rest dint you think?

Its exactly the fact every club is different as to why we need a total cap set at a manageable rate for all. For all the Broncos revenue and surpluses what assets do they actually own?
 

Vic Mackey

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works. I guess we move one Sydney team to the non-Sydney conference to even up numbers, which one goes? Dragons because they’re only half Sydney?

yeah saints would be the logical choice

Sydney:

Roosters
Rabbits
Eels
Sea Eagles
Sharks
Tigers
Panthers
Bulldogs

Non Sydney:

Raiders
Storm
Broncos
Warriors
Cowboys
Knights
Titans
Dragons
 

lockyno1

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Eels have needed bailing out to the tune of nearly $20mill from their LC in the last few years. Not sure why you keep holding them up as some bastion of good business? So basically 2 out of 16 clubs, and one of them with more advantage by far than any other, are being run well. Seems a great reason to sort this sht out for the rest dint you think?

Its exactly the fact every club is different as to why we need a total cap set at a manageable rate for all. For all the Broncos revenue and surpluses what assets do they actually own?

So Brisbane cop it for being profitable...sounds fair doesn’t it. Bet the stakeholders will be thrilled they will lose money. How they are profitable that’s up to the club. It is not up to the NRL to say “stop spending” to them- they know what they are doing.

If I were Brisbane and they have to prop up others they better get it back with interest.
 

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