News Coronavirus and NRL

[Vic Mackey]

If they were to strip points - you can officially chuck an asterisks next to any side who didn’t win their first two game if they go on to win the comp.

Compromises everything.

If they dont strip points and play the Conferences - you can offically chuck and asterisks next to any side who won their first two game/s against sides who arent in their Conference if they go on to win the comp.

 

[Perth Red]

So Brisbane cop it for being profitable...sounds fair doesn’t it. Bet the stakeholders will be thrilled they will lose money. How they are profitable that’s up to the club. It is not up to the NRL to say “stop spending” to them- they know what they are doing.

If I were Brisbane and they have to prop up others they better get it back with interest.

sometimes the privileged few have to cop it for the betterment of the game. Something Broncos continually fail to understand it seems. How will stakeholders lose money? By setting a cap the broncos shareholders are in fact much more likely to see increased dividends.
Well it is actually up to the nrl to do that exact same thin, or for clubs to accept in the bad times they are on their own if it goes belly up. Don’t be whinging about the nrl spending money and not bailing you out if you aren’t going to accept a level of control over your business that ensures your viability. we’ve tried letting the clubs manage their own expenditure , it hasn’t worked. Time to now get serious and rescue the game for the century ahead.

 

[T-Boon]

Eels have needed bailing out to the tune of nearly $20mill from their LC in the last few years. Not sure why you keep holding them up as some bastion of good business? So basically 2 out of 16 clubs, and one of them with more advantage by far than any other, are being run well. Seems a great reason to sort this sht out for the rest dint you think?

I wouldn't say that the Eels have needed bailing. It is more accurate to say they have a flow of revenue from the leagues club. It just goes to the wrong things. I would be fine if clubs were spending $25mill a year on trying to grow their brand, advertise, game day experience...but it all gets wasted on pay rises for useless coaching staff etc.

 

[Perth Red]

I wouldn't say that the Eels have needed bailing. It is more accurate to say they have a flow of revenue from the leagues club. It just goes to the wrong things. I would be fine if clubs were spending $25mill a year on trying to grow their brand, advertise, game day experience...but it all gets wasted on pay rises for useless coaching staff etc.

that is true but that LC money could be better spent funding jnr RL and helping the community, the things pokie revenue should be doing some good with. If the eels could run their nrl business successfully they wouldn’t need to be siphoning money away from the community in large amounts. They are a classic example of what happens if you have a free market And arms race going on.

 

[lockyno1]

sometimes the privileged few have to cop it for the betterment of the game. Something Broncos continually fail to understand it seems. How will stakeholders lose money? By setting a cap the broncos shareholders are in fact much more likely to see increased dividends.
Well it is actually up to the nrl to do that exact same thin, or for clubs to accept in the bad times they are on their own if it goes belly up. Don’t be whinging about the nrl spending money and not bailing you out if you aren’t going to accept a level of control over your business that ensures your viability. we’ve tried letting the clubs manage their own expenditure , it hasn’t worked. Time to now get serious and rescue the game for the century ahead.

No Brisbane don't have to "just cop it'...bet you Collingwood (for instance) would laugh at that proposal in the AFL. Brisbane are fine they have more than controlled their spending, and are profitable. Maybe other clubs can use it as a blueprint rather than Brisbane having to change so the poor cousins don't overspend. Here's an idea don't spend what you can't get back, it's not that hard really. It's clear the total amount of Brisbane won't be the same as GC...doesn't mean both can't make profits.

 

[T-Boon]

that is true but that LC money could be better spent funding jnr RL and helping the community, the things pokie revenue should be doing some good with. If the eels could run their nrl business successfully they wouldn’t need to be siphoning money away from the community in large amounts. They are a classic example of what happens if you have a free market And arms race going on.

I agree with this for the most part except that I think the Leagues clubs who own NRL teams should be charged a massive licensing fee to own the football team. Each year Parra Leagues club should pay about $5million to the NRL who then allocate that money to grass roots. I don't trust the Leagues clubs, I think they spend money on AFL and soccer.

 

[Nevan_]

No Brisbane don't have to "just cop it'...bet you Collingwood (for instance) would laugh at that proposal in the AFL. Brisbane are fine they have more than controlled their spending, and are profitable. Maybe other clubs can use it as a blueprint rather than Brisbane having to change so the poor cousins don't overspend. Here's an idea don't spend what you can't get back, it's not that hard really. It's clear the total amount of Brisbane won't be the same as GC...doesn't mean both can't make profits.

Let’s not forget the unfair advantage your team has over the other clubs. It must be nice to have an entire city to yourself and a match every Friday night. Plus having 68% of your club owned by the media organisation that sets the game’s talking points helps too.

 

[GongPanther]

We won't take your points: Pearce
NRL.com
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After floating the option of resetting the Telstra Premiership ladder, ARL Commissioner Wayne Pearce has said it is set to be scrubbed from the long list of ideas being considered by the Innovations Committee.

The committee, which will next meet on Thursday, was considering the step as part of its mandate to look at ways to reschedule the season following last month's decision to suspend the competition due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Pearce, who is heading up the committee, told the Sydney Morning Herald on Monday night that they would consider scrapping the competition points earned over the first two rounds of the season.

However, on Tuesday morning he said on Fox League that he would be against bringing in the controversial move.

"My personal view is when we get the competition up and running again we should carry the results from the opening two rounds," Pearce said.

"Players have worked extremely hard all off-season and clubs have lost players to injuries in those opening two games."

The theoretical resetting of the ladder would potentially have been an option as the rescheduled competition is likely to be split into two equal conferences of eight.

Under that scenario, teams would only play against the other sides in their conference as clubs would operate in a "bubble" environment to protect players and staff from contracting the virus.

Roosters coach Trent Robinson, Raiders CEO Don Furner, RLPA CEO Clint Newton, former politician Troy Grant, NRL chief commercial officer Andrew Abdo, NRL chief corporate affairs officer Liz Deegan and NRL head of football Graham Annesley are also on the committee.

Parramatta, Newcastle, Brisbane, Canberra, Penrith and Melbourne kicked off their campaigns with back-to-back victories while the Roosters began their quest for a threepeat with successive losses, while Cronulla, Canterbury, the Warriors, Titans and St George Illawarra are also winless.

Broncos CEO Paul White was adamant the results from the first two rounds should be part of the season whenever it restarted.

"This is not final, so we won’t jump ahead too far but what I would say is that our members and sponsors – the whole club in fact – have taken a lot of positivity out of those opening two wins of the season," he said on the club's website.

"The players and the coaching staff put together a really strong pre-season over a number of months and that was rewarded with two fantastic victories.

"We were undermanned in Townsville but played some great footy to get the result, and similarly we came back home and took on a strong Souths team and got the result there as well.

"They are the kind of wins that you can build a season around, and I know our whole club – the players, staff, members and sponsors – have been buoyed by those results across the uncertain weeks in the wake of the season being suspended."

https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2020/04/07/we-wont-take-your-points-pearce/

Like I said earlier: "So after two months of a hot and grueling pre-season training, then three weeks of pre-season matches, then two weeks of the competition proper, and take in mind the effort to play in those games whether you win lose and draw."

And "A move like this clearly disadvantages teams not only in wins, it also gives a clear disadvantage to those teams with injury concerns."

 

[Cactus]

Clubs to keep points from opening rounds when NRL restarts

The NRL has assured clubs the results of the first two rounds will stand if the 2020 competition resumes.

The ‘Project Apollo’ taskforce was set to debate the merits of all 16 teams starting on zero points when it meets to discuss a new competition structure on Thursday. However, that move angered the unbeaten Eels, Panthers, Knights, Broncos, Raiders and Storm, whose opening wins would have been for nought.

ARLC chairman Peter V’Landys scrapped the idea after discussions with NRL CEO Todd Greenberg and committee head Wayne Pearce on Wednesday morning.

“That won’t be happening,” V’Landys said.

“That idea came from outside the commission and once I spoke to Wayne Pearce, it was off the table.

“We’re better off announcing that straight away so they don’t waste time on it because we’re not considering it.

“It’s got to be authentic so that at the end of the season when someone wins the grand final, it will be like every other grand final, it needs to be recognised in exactly the same fashion.”

The NRL is hopeful of resuming the competition as early as May 28 and is conducting a feasibility study on a number of potential "bubble locations in NSW and Queensland. Consideration is being given to a conference system or keeping all of the players in a single location.

“The infection rate when we were playing was around 28 per cent,” V'landys said.

“Today it’s at 1.8 per cent.

“We don’t have to reinvent the world because if the infection rate keeps coming down … there’s more chance of a player getting in an accident on the way to the ground than getting coronavirus.

“You have to do a proper risk analysis and put things into perspective, but at the same time make sure there are proper biosecurity measures in place to reduce that risk.”

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/un...points-when-nrl-restarts-20200407-p54hun.html


Could buzzzzzzzz be any more wrong about everything if he tried ?

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Award Para 2020 NRL after two rounds and be done with it. With a big *

Start a new 8-15 week comp if and when they can re-start in 2020. And then celebrate that winner.

And just as an aside, if NZ Warriors don't play again...do the two teams who played them lose their points? And if they bring in an Invitational team to make 16 teams...do they get the Warriors points ( 0 ) and F/A?

 

[Perth Red]

No Brisbane don't have to "just cop it'...bet you Collingwood (for instance) would laugh at that proposal in the AFL. Brisbane are fine they have more than controlled their spending, and are profitable. Maybe other clubs can use it as a blueprint rather than Brisbane having to change so the poor cousins don't overspend. Here's an idea don't spend what you can't get back, it's not that hard really. It's clear the total amount of Brisbane won't be the same as GC...doesn't mean both can't make profits.

Wow, Brisbane are fine in their artificially created privileged position so the rest of the game can suffer? Have you listened to yourself?
well considering Collingwood and the other big clubs cop half the annual afl grant that some other clubs get and paid a ticket tax to help fund expansion I’d suggest you’re wrong there!

 

[Perth Red]

I agree with this for the most part except that I think the Leagues clubs who own NRL teams should be charged a massive licensing fee to own the football team. Each year Parra Leagues club should pay about $5million to the NRL who then allocate that money to grass roots. I don't trust the Leagues clubs, I think they spend money on AFL and soccer.

in WA the wafl own the two afl licenses and the two clubs pay them around $6million each annually to play in the afl. Goes a long way to funding grassroots. Maybe a similar situation should be set up in nrl? but no, club self interest would never allow it. They’d rather spend the money eh or more ex player tea boys and assistant coaches. Imagine if VRL where getting $2-3million from the Storm for example , would be game changer for grassroots RL in Victoria,

 

[TheVelourFog]

just cancel the season ffs

play a 9s tournament in August if they must because that is the earliest any sport will be taking place

 

[Dave's mate]

just cancel the season ffs

play a 9s tournament in August if they must because that is the earliest any sport will be taking place

Lol no

 

[TheVelourFog]

Lol no

the season is a bust buddy

 

[AJB1102]

the season is a bust buddy

It'll be back by July, latest. It's just the vibe, not gonna hang my hat on it or have anything worth arguing.

 

[TheVelourFog]

It'll be back by July, latest. It's just the vibe, not gonna hang my hat on it or have anything worth arguing.

the contractural obligations will no doubt win out and games will be played

but this season as an actual competition is a bust

 

[AJB1102]

the contractural obligations will no doubt win out and games will be played

but this season as an actual competition is a bust

Oh yeah. It'll be a money making exercise and provide a bit of sports entertainment to those keen for it, bring back/create some jobs, help the poor old bookies access all those stimulus payments and money saved on not going out. The outcome of the "comp" won't mean much, I wouldn't be bragging 2020 Premiers too loudly if my team got up.

 

[Nevan_]

The competition will be just as legitimate as the last two.

 

[Dave's mate]

the contractural obligations will no doubt win out and games will be played

but this season as an actual competition is a bust

Nonsense