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Crowd Watch 2013 - Part Deux

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BunniesMan

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So, you've clearly never driven from the CBD to Penrith.
What rubbish. You can get from George Street to Centrebet Stadium without passing through a single paddock or any bushland.

P.S. A front yard is not a paddock. A tree is not bushland.
 

franklin2323

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So Penrith isn't supposed to draw people from Sydney but Brisbane is supposed to draw people from Toowoomba? FFS.

No but how many people work in Brisbane from Ipswich? If It's like my trip west it's a turd. So people will think screw that I will go when they are good or choose 2-3 games a year. We have 16 games in Sydney plenty of time to watch Penrith without going west.

A sample of how big the actual Penrith Junior League is
from:

www.distancesfrom.com/.../travel-time...Katoomba...blacktown/TravelTi...
1 hr 11 min - Travel Time from Katoomba to blacktown

Getting to all games can be a pain. Though it's made up by the non locals that come.
 
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franklin2323

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What rubbish. You can get from George Street to Centrebet Stadium without passing through a single paddock or any bushland.

P.S. A front yard is not a paddock. A tree is not bushland.

It's been built up and is still going. Same can be said for Wollongong is that also Sydney?
 
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What you continually fail to understand VoR is that Sydney fans are generally not going to go to games featuring teams they do not support. It's true that some people from Campbelltown go for Manly or some people from Toowoomba support Canterbury but the reality is, supporter bases can basically be averaged to their catchment population (i.e. for every fan of a rival club within the catchment, there is a fan of the club outside it). Therefore comparing catchment areas is a logical way to compare relative support for clubs. I'm not sure what part of this you fail to understand.

And what you fail to understand is that (a) not everyone in Brisbane is a supporter of the Broncos (making the eleventy million people MUST follow them) which (b) invalidates the catchment area argument that might make more sense in Sydney where the current supporter base has built out of a district competition.

Brisbane and Sydney are different. Don't know why you don't get that.

Using that sort of logic, Sydney stretches from about Randwick to Liverpool

Congratulations Bondi on becoming your own city

Congratulations on thinking that Brisbane and Sydney are the same. Unlike Sydney, Brisbane has a single local government that covers Brisbane.
 

dogslife

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I'm just curious as to who you think the majority of the residents of "Greater Brisbane" (ie Brisbane) support
 

dogslife

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Donks just opened a junior academy in Logan, good to see them getting out into regional Australia!
 

jonno_knights

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I seriously question the 19,000 crowd figure at the knights game yesterday.. I was at the round 4 game against Canberra (19,000 too) and there were WAY more people at the Bulldogs game.. I struggle to see where they could have fit 13,000 more people in. I thought there would have been around 23,000 at the game for sure.
 

BranVan3000

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Is BranVan any relation to BM?

Or is it just a competition to see who can talk the most shit?

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flamin

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It's been built up and is still going. Same can be said for Wollongong is that also Sydney?
Well it's impossible for Wollongong to become part of Sydney unless someone builds houses all over the Royal National Park and levels the escarpment.
 

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And what you fail to understand is that (a) not everyone in Brisbane is a supporter of the Broncos (making the eleventy million people MUST follow them) which (b) invalidates the catchment area argument that might make more sense in Sydney where the current supporter base has built out of a district competition.

Try reading my post more slowly, it might then become easier to comprehend. I even stated that was the case but overall, these things balance themselves out (number of people within the catchment that do not support the club and number of people outside the catchment that do). A very large percentage of RL fans in Brisbane would support the Donkeys while a small percentage of RL fans in Sydney would support any given Sydney based club. I'm not sure why you would expect any club in Sydney which have an average of 5.3 million (Sydney + Illawarra) / 9 clubs worth of people to draw from would outdraw 2.2 million /1 club. Sure, some people in Brisbane don't follow the Donkeys but there are also Melbourne, Canberra, NZ, GC, NQ and Brisbane fans in Sydney.

As far as your second point about origins from the district competition, the Donkeys were built as a QLD side to compete against the NSW competition. In effect their base was built so much larger than that of any Sydney club and it would make sense that they would draw strong support from a much greater area.

At the end of the day apples are being compared to oranges but you are a fool to think that it is impressive that the Broncos are getting the crowds they are given their situation. Souths and Canterbury will soon be competing with them for crowds whilst drawing from a much smaller potential fanbase.
 

dogslife

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I'm not sure why you would expect any club in Sydney which have an average of 5.3 million (Sydney + Illawarra) / 9 clubs worth of people to draw from would outdraw 2.2 million /1 club. Sure, some people in Brisbane don't follow the Donkeys but there are also Melbourne, Canberra, NZ, GC, NQ and Brisbane fans in Sydney.
It's actually 1.1 million now champ, because apparently it stops being Brisbane when you get more than 15km outside the CBD
 

Timmah

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Yes, because you are the seer of crowds.

You keep bleating at our crowds, yet we had the second biggest for the round two weeks in a row.

Keep it coming, because you have absolutely nothing.
Grow a set, merkin.

I have an opinion - South Sydney underperforming when it comes to bums on seats is one of them. The 32k v Storm was a phenomenal crowd, and full credit for that... but why is it so hard to sustain? The team is OUTRIGHT FIRST.

As for Newcastle, I reckon if I go somewhere and see crowd figures posted regularly, I'd have a decent idea of what might not be right.
 

BunniesMan

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I seriously question the 19,000 crowd figure at the knights game yesterday.. I was at the round 4 game against Canberra (19,000 too) and there were WAY more people at the Bulldogs game.. I struggle to see where they could have fit 13,000 more people in. I thought there would have been around 23,000 at the game for sure.
The issue is I am betting there was far less than 19,000 that time but it was inflated. This last weekend you got a real crowd of 19,000. You're comparing it to a crowd pre-crackdown and coming to the conclusion that this weekends crowd must have been a lot more than 19,000.

We are finally getting real crowd numbers. We should not be comparing them to old fake numbers and insisting these ones are wrong.
Grow a set, merkin.

I have an opinion - South Sydney underperforming when it comes to bums on seats is one of them. The 32k v Storm was a phenomenal crowd, and full credit for that... but why is it so hard to sustain? The team is OUTRIGHT FIRST.


As for Newcastle, I reckon if I go somewhere and see crowd figures posted regularly, I'd have a decent idea of what might not be right.
So now we have to sustain an average that is about 10,000 higher than any Sydney team average in the history of rugby league to satisfy you?

If we average 20,000 this year it will be one of the greatest seasons in history in terms of crowds. And it won't be enough to satisfy you.
 
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