D day for Parramatta

[Snappy]

lol still going on with the TPA roll over BS

 

[Glen]

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/melbourne-storm/transfers.html

Notables are Finch, Hoffman, Inglis, Lima, Tolman, White and Blair the following year.

Fair enough, more notable players than I was thinking. It's not like they were ordered to get rid of anything more than what got them under the cap though, so if Parra can achieve that with 3 players instead of 6 that may just be the difference in dollar values in each situation

 

[betcats]

The sticky-icky-icky stirkes again! If this article is correct its a disgrace how lightly Parra have got off.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...parramatta-eels-payments-20160510-gorul7.html

Reni Maitua, Cheyse Blair and Daniel Harrison are among the former Parramatta players alleged to have received extra payments above those disclosed to the NRL.
The trio are mentioned in the breach notice that the governing body has handed to the Eels as part of its investigations into salary cap rorts. The development marks the first time the names of players mentioned in the breach notice have been published. There is no suggestion the trio were complicit in cheating the system.
Maitua, Blair and Harrison were among about a dozen players deemed surplus to requirements by then-coach Ricky Stuart in 2013. It was one of the biggest cleanouts in the history of the blue and golds and the names of those deemed not part of the club's future were displayed to the playing group via an overhead projector.

Well-placed sources have told Fairfax Media the extra payments may have been provided as an inducement for some contracted players to leave.

The mass cleanout is viewed internally as the catalyst for the salary cap debacle the club currently finds itself in. Given the players were publicly labelled not up to first-grade standard, they were always going to be a hard sell to rival clubs.
The situation effectively left the Eels at the mercy of their player managers and the flow-on effects are viewed as one of the reasons Parramatta overspent the salary cap for five of their past six seasons. In 2014, the Eels had to shell out more than $750,000 to players no longer at the club as a result, with some of them playing against them at rival teams.
Following its probe, the NRL alleges the Eels have overspent by $3 million since 2012 via a number of illegal methods, including fictitious and inflated invoices, undisclosed third-party agreements and cash handouts.
Fairfax Media revealed in March that clothing provider Zibara was paid at least $80,000 for goods the club has no record of receiving, raising questions over whether players illegally benefited from the arrangement.
Zibara was one of the companies mentioned in an email from former Eels CFO Ed Farish to club officials which has been described as "the smoking gun" in the cap probe. That correspondence, along with damning audio recordings of board meetings, are among the key pieces of evidence that have brought the club undone.
Maitua, Harrison and Blair attempted to continue their footballing careers after leaving Parramatta with varying success. Maitua, a former NSW and Australian forward, was the highest profile of the so-called "dirty dozen" who were asked to move on.
The former Eels co-captain returned to former club Canterbury, where he was in and out of first grade before heading overseas. Harrison also returned to his former club, Manly, but made just one additional NRL appearance before also continuing his career in England.
Blair enjoyed a more fruitful stint at the Sea Eagles before he switched to Melbourne at the start of this season.
The Eels are now left with the challenge of becoming salary cap compliant before Friday's clash with South Sydney, with hooker Nathan Peats the man most likely to be squeezed out. They will then need to win 12 of their remaining games to have any chance of playing in the finals.
"I'm not going to lie, it's been tough after everything with the salary cap come out," said Eels backrower Tepai Moeroa. "It's been a real kick in the guts, but hopefully we can get under the cap and play for points this week."
Asked if the players were angry at the board for putting them into this situation, he said: "No, I don't think so. We've just got to worry about what we need to do as a team to go out there as a team and win our next 12 of 15. Yeah, the board made mistakes but there's nothing we can do."


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[POPEYE]

lol still going on with the TPA roll over BS

You wasn't talking to me were you Snap

 

[Lambretta]

So basically Parra rort the cap for years, get caught, and look like having to lose Nathan Peats as the only player of note.

Nrl - wet lettuce leaf - Parra.

This is basically a green light to 15 other clubs, that under Greenburgs watch it may well be worth cheating the cap.

No, that's not the case - Parramatta aren't just losing one player of note

They're being docked 12 competition points - 5 people involved at a ministerial level have to step down - they're being fined a million dollars and have to hand back a trophy (Nines)

Add to that they're losing either Watmough, Peats and Ryan Morgan or Watmough, Paulo, Toutai & Morgan as an alternative

Now Parramatta have caught a lucky break because Watmough had been injured all season. But he's still part of their salary cap and they're having to shed him.

But if your team had been caught over the cap and you were fined a million dollars, were stripped of a trophy and were forced to offload three or four players, you'd be bitching and moaning and carrying on like a pork chop. Not celebrating

Get some perspective.

 

[betcats]

The 12 points they are losing they gained cheating, its a no brainer they should lose those. The fact they could make the finals this year over teams they beat with an illegal team is beyond ridiculous.

Despite losing Watmough(lets be realistic this is a boost for them to get that horrible contract off the books) and perhaps Peats or someone else they have set themselves up with a side(assembled while over the cap) to be very good for the next few years atleast. You have to think if they play by the rules for the last four years there could not of set themselves up with this side, I think most perennial bottom of the table clubs would sacrifice one season if it meant going from wooden spooners to top four.

 

[Snappy]

You wasn't talking to me were you Snap

No

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Kent on NRL 360 last night claimed Parra are spending 50k a day on lawyers. Sounds bullshit, especially coming from him but given the club's history, wouldn't surprise if they're paying overs for legal advice as well.

 

[ek999]

Parra players don't seem happy with the clubs decision to cut Peats

 

[mave]

The 12 points they are losing they gained cheating, its a no brainer they should lose those. The fact they could make the finals this year over teams they beat with an illegal team is beyond ridiculous.

Despite losing Watmough(lets be realistic this is a boost for them to get that horrible contract off the books) and perhaps Peats or someone else they have set themselves up with a side(assembled while over the cap) to be very good for the next few years atleast. You have to think if they play by the rules for the last four years there could not of set themselves up with this side, I think most perennial bottom of the table clubs would sacrifice one season if it meant going from wooden spooners to top four.

Exactly my thoughts on the whole matter.

 

[no name]

Parra players don't seem happy with the clubs decision to cut Peats

They would prob rather they got out instead.

 

[BunniesMan]

How can players use the ignorance card if they were getting cash payments? Surely at least some knew and should face serious consequences. Anyone getting cash should be suspended for a year at least

 

[851]

How can players use the ignorance card if they were getting cash payments? Surely at least some knew and should face serious consequences. Anyone getting cash should be suspended for a year at least

I agree, players are not known for their intellect, but they are smart enough to know that cash payment is outside the cap.

 

[El Diablo]

if a player was paid cash it would go through their manager and appear legit

 

[Rabbit toes]

if a player was paid cash it would go through their manager and appear legit

Why would a manager give players cash? A players incapable of having a bank credited with their pay?

 

[Nice Beaver]

if a player was paid cash it would go through their manager and appear legit

Bullshit.

 

[Snappy]

if a player was paid cash it would go through their manager and appear legit

 

[AJB1102]

I wouldn't imagine the insurer would be making the call to approve or deny Watmough's claim by Friday - that could take months. Factor in that its well publicised that his knee has been shot for years and just how convenient the lodging of his claim was they might apply more scrutiny to this one.

 

[Bazal]

I wouldn't imagine the insurer would be making the call to approve or deny Watmough's claim by Friday - that could take months. Factor in that its well publicised that his knee has been shot for years and just how convenient the lodging of his claim was they might apply more scrutiny to this one.

As has been mentioned countless times the Watmough retirement and insurance stuff was in the works about a month before the verdict....

 

[AJB1102]

As has been mentioned countless times the Watmough retirement and insurance stuff was in the works about a month before the verdict....

And every man and his dog knew Parra were in the shit 3 months before the verdict.

Whether Watmough has a legit claim or not wasn't my point though. Its more that you'd hate to be depending a swift insurance approval before you can play for points again.