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D day for Parramatta

Name three players Parramatta must keep if they are to make the playoffs.


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And isn't it lovely of the DT to withhold the names of the players? They showed no quarter to the Storm players when they got done.

f**k the Telecrap!

They published the list in todays tele, that is how I know Hayne got $15k in 2013, $225k in 2014 and $225k in 2015
 

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This tells me all I need to know.

Parramatta and their fans cry foul at losing to a team way over the cap (which is fair enough) and then they go and do the exact same thing.

f**k Parramatta. Zero sympathy from me. Not that they were going to get it from me anyway!

Greenberg should go one step further and bar them from competing for points at all in step with what happened at Storm. The 12 points was the preliminary penalty, right? Does that mean the punishment has the potential to be harsher as well as potential to be softer?

You can talk to me until you are blue in the face about Melbourne being X amount over a $Y cap and Parra being a certain amount over the revised cap (because it went up over time by the NRL)... cheating is still cheating. The Parra Five went out of their way to lie, hide and outright deceive the NRL then had the f**king audacity to cry foul when they got hit with a punishment that was pretty limp dicked to begin with.

Surley this is cause to make the penalty more severe. Boutros, Anderson, Seward (who was apparently seen as successor to Mark Evans at Melbourne! Looks like we dodged a bullet there!) Et all should be added to the list with Brian Waldron and Matt Hanson and never be allowed within a stray pube of the game of rugby league ever again!

For the record, I always maintained that we lost to the better side in 2009, and the fact it was only a 7 point loss indicates that the cheating wasn't as big a deal as was made out - that 2009 Eels team, on paper, should have lost by 40 to that Storm team.

My only problem was Slater dropping the ball, and having the ref penalise us, which marched you down the field to kick the field goal thay took the wind out of our sails.
 

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For the record, I always maintained that we lost to the better side in 2009, and the fact it was only a 7 point loss indicates that the cheating wasn't as big a deal as was made out - that 2009 Eels team, on paper, should have lost by 40 to that Storm team.

My only problem was Slater dropping the ball, and having the ref penalise us, which marched you down the field to kick the field goal thay took the wind out of our sails.

Go back and watch the game, chief. Kevin Kingston deliberately changes his line and runs in to Slater's arm as he gets up to play the ball. Even Ray Hadley called it in the audio commentary on the DVD of the game. Moi Moi got the rough end of the pineapple there when they blamed him.
 
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They published the list in todays tele, that is how I know Hayne got $15k in 2013, $225k in 2014 and $225k in 2015

Couldn't get past Rupe's firewall on that one. I was referring to the article with the transcripts. Thanks though.
 

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Go back and watch the game, chief. Kevin Kingston deliberately changes his line and runs in to Slater's arm as he gets up to play the ball. Even Ray Hadley called it in the audio commentary on the DVD of the game. Moi Moi got the rough end of the pineapple there when they blamed him.

I disagree.

But itBut it doesn't matter.
 

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Here is another one.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...p/news-story/58142984fbfc7f07f1a69582febecd4a
Explosive meeting tapes show Parramatta Eels board members were aware of scheme to cheat salary cap
May 17, 2016 8:05am
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EXPLOSIVE meeting tapes show that several board members and senior management of the Parramatta Eels were actively aware of — and in some cases, actively participated in — an elaborate scheme to cheat the NRL’s salary cap over a period of at least two years between 2013 and 2015.

A copy of the NRL’s breach notice — exclusively revealed by The Daily Telegraph’s television partner Fox Sports — shows that members of the board even discussed whether “fraud” had taken place at the club in its thwarting of the salary cap.

The new material implicates the five Eels officials who have already been suspended for their roles in the Eels salary cap scandal: chairman Steve Sharp, CEO John Boulous, deputy chairman Tom Issa, director Peter Serrao and head of football Daniel Anderson.


Parramatta Eels chairman Steve Sharp avoids the media.
But it also threatens to snare other current members of the board, including former Parramatta MP Tanya Gadiel and fellow current Eels board member Andrew Cordwell.

At one point in a June 2015 board meeting, Gadiel discusses a third-party payment made by one firm to star former player Anthony Watmough, which was paid by the club to a third party through inflated invoices.

Sharp said the club was effectively paying the deal. “So she was going to increase her charges to us. So we are paying the third-party deal,” he said.

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Gadiel says of the deal: “Sorry, that’s the f-word, that’s fraud isn’t it. That is fraud.”

The following exchange then takes place:

Sharp: It’s not fraud.

Gadiel (to Cordwell): What do you reckon?

Cordwell: It’s certainly fudging the figures, all right … we’re going out there … it’s a variation of how people breach the cap.


The explosive tapes — along with the boardroom minutes exposed by The Daily Telegraph in first uncovering the club’s conspiracy to cheat the cap that launched the NRL forensic investigation in March — confirm that the club knowingly lied in multiple declarations to the NRL that it was compliant with NRL salary cap rules.

In the club’s now infamous March 2014 board meeting, Boulous is discussed as the point of contact for *directly sourcing third-party *agreements. It is actively discussed for the club to directly source TPAs through a subsidiary called The Premiership Club.

TPAs are meant to be at arm’s length from the club and the board, but it is clear from the transcript of the tapes that senior officials are anything but arm’s length.


Parramatta Eels CEO John Boulous is heard clearly on the tapes.
Boulous talks at length about sourcing TPAs, and at one point remarkably says of references to The Premiership Club: “I think that should be taken out (of the minutes).”

Seward notes that the use of the club is “sailing as close to the wind as breaking the salary cap possibly can”.

Also in March 2014, Anderson talks of the importance of sourcing TPAs. Sharp’s reply is succinct: “We can get those. We’ve got to work hard to get those TPAs.”

In the June 2015 meeting, it is Issa who points to the enormity of the dodgy third-party deals when discussing a massive third-party payment to Anthony Watmough.

“Two years ago everyone came in and hit me and Steve (Sharp) up, and Daniel (Anderson), when Ricky Stuart left and we took over from (former chairman) Roy (Spagnolo),” Issa said.


Board member Tanya Gadiel appears to have also been caught in the scandal.
“The severity of those were so minimal compared to this that it’s *absurd. There was fraudulent conduct conducted previously that we said no to. We said no to all the ones that were in that dirty laundry where you just turned around and said no.”

Shortly after, Cordwell is clearly agitated about the discussion, and asks to turn off the tape: “Can we turn off the recorder? Can we just turn it off? Is that possible? I just want to speak openly. Can you turn it off and suspend the meeting or something?”

Sharp replies: “It’s off, mate”



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In a September 2015 board meeting, Serrao asks about the status of an internal inquiry by club internal investigator Rob Mulherin into “possible fraudulent conduct” and transactions involving third-party providers including Zibara Clothing, after warnings made internally by *executives.

There is no suggestion Zibara has done anything wrong.

Sharp replies that he had spoken with Parramatta Leagues Club CEO Bevan Paul and club lawyer John de Mestre. “Their recommendation is we probably not proceed with digging up too many skeletons and all that sort of stuff.”

Gadiel backs the decision to bury the inquiry. “There’s got to be a point where we draw a line in the sand you know.”

Sharp replies: “Yes and it’s time now where we move forward and focus on our actions and view what we’ve done right and wrong, and move forward and forget about the past.”

Gadiel replies: “Yep.”
 

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So now that all of this has been laid bare I'd be interested to see how the tide of public opinion will turn.

And does this new info mean that due process has run its course, the five are toast and the 12 points get stripped or is Greenberg going to continue to tip toe through the tulips?
 

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At one board meeting *former CEO Scott Seward compares the club’s salary cap crisis to other clubs’ past scandals, claiming it is “not the Bulldogs and it’s not the Melbourne Storm”.

f**k me.

And Storm were reportedly after this muppet before Dave Donaghy took over from Evans?

We sure did dodge a bullet!
 

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“Us players have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.” He said the players’ duty was to go out and play and he had put his trust in his manager and the people who ran the club.

“I’m an athlete, not a manager.”

Sorry, Jarryd. It didn't wash with the Storm players. What makes it think it will wash with you and your mates?
 

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So now that all of this has been laid bare I'd be interested to see how the tide of public opinion will turn.

And does this new info mean that due process has run its course, the five are toast and the 12 points get stripped or is Greenberg going to continue to tip toe through the tulips?

It's not new info.
 

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