Did Jarrod Croker choke ?

[Danish]

Croker choked, the raiders didn't.

Croker's miss was the very definition of a choke IMO. An 80+% kicker shanking one from 30 out and just a bit to the left. Its similar to a pro golfer missing a 6 foot putt on reasonably level green.

One thing the poor kid will get tired of hearing over the coming months is "you'll learn from it".... what the f**k is he supposed to learn?? Don't miss reasonably simple kicks?

 

[Pete Cash]

I have a 50% chance of winning lotto and getting a BJ from Jessica Alba this week. I either will or I won't...

:lol:

there are only two possible outcomes for a kick for goal. there are numerous outcomes of a lotto draw. its not a difficult concept. we are talking straight random chance which i presume was madunits point.

Say in a 40 number lotto the chances of you sitting there and randomly calling out a number as the ball is selected and getting that correct is 1/40

 

[ShaiGuY]

I feel bad for the guy... however, that is a choke... it's like a basketball player having to make clutch free throws. His % is quite high and he would do it any other day of the week... it depends how you define choking though. To some he didn't choke and I can understand that definition... however, for me choking is when you're expected to be successful at what you do but the situation gets to you. Still, poor guy, however as a goalkicker they are the moments you play for as well...

 

[Timbo]

It's amazing how often goalkickers miss 'easy' (ie - from in front or near enough) kicks when the distance is slightly not what they're used to.

Was he taking a conversion from that angle, he'd have nailed it. But the extra 10 or so metres through him off. As it did with Burt and Thurston earlier in the season.

Kickers with pronounced hook on their kicks are prone to missing when the distance is slightly off what they're used to.

I don't think that makes it a choke, just something he needs to practice more.

 

[Apey]

Two outcomes doesn't imply each have an equal chance of occurring.

 

[Pete Cash]

Two outcomes doesn't imply each have an equal chance of occurring.

It does according to my calculator ;-)

The point is that chance is not a good way to statistically represent an event with human involvement. All four sides left have a 25 percent chance of winning the NRL grand final but the Dragons are more likely to.

 

[dontbro]

:lol:

there are only two possible outcomes for a kick for goal. there are numerous outcomes of a lotto draw. its not a difficult concept. we are talking straight random chance which i presume was madunits point.

Say in a 40 number lotto the chances of you sitting there and randomly calling out a number as the ball is selected and getting that correct is 1/40

So by this logic...since there are 16 teams in the NRL competition, each team has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp. Are you implying the Sharks have an equal chance to win the comp at the beginning of a season as, say, the Dragons?

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

I can't remember my combinations & permutations maths correctly, but what are the chances of the Raiders receiving the lowest number of video referee referred tries 5 years in a row?

 

[Firey_Dragon]

So by this logic...since there are 16 teams in the NRL competition, each team has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp. Are you implying the Sharks have an equal chance to win the comp at the beginning of a season as, say, the Dragons?

By his logic, Storm were still an equal chance with 5 rounds to go.

 

[Pete Cash]

So by this logic...since there are 16 teams in the NRL competition, each team has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp. Are you implying the Sharks have an equal chance to win the comp at the beginning of a season as, say, the Dragons?

Yes each side has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp at the start of the year.

I am not trying to trick anyone here. It is the way the maths works.

 

[Pete Cash]

By his logic, Storm were still an equal chance with 5 rounds to go.

No, because the Storm couldn't win the premiership. They were outside of calculations. It isn't just arbitrary mumbo jumbo.

At the start of the finals series the CHANCE for any given final result was 1/8.

 

[badav]

Yes each side has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp at the start of the year.

I am not trying to trick anyone here. It is the way the maths works.

Yeah i mean you would know wouldn't you.

Each side would have a 1/16 chance of winning the comp at the start of the year if the winner of the comp was drawn out of a hat randomly.

 

[Gidley Up]

Probability that you all don't know what you are talking about, p = 1

 

[watatank]

It does according to my calculator ;-)

The point is that chance is not a good way to statistically represent an event with human involvement. All four sides left have a 25 percent chance of winning the NRL grand final but the Dragons are more likely to.

If the Dragons are more likely to win how can all sides left have a 25% chance of winning? :lol:

 

[simmo1]

Yes each side has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp at the start of the year.

I am not trying to trick anyone here. It is the way the maths works.

You should probably stop talking about things you don't quite understand.

 

[_Johnsy]

You should probably stop talking about things you don't quite understand.

Hopefully the penny will drop soon.

 

[Iafeta]

It's amazing how often goalkickers miss 'easy' (ie - from in front or near enough) kicks when the distance is slightly not what they're used to.

Was he taking a conversion from that angle, he'd have nailed it. But the extra 10 or so metres through him off. As it did with Burt and Thurston earlier in the season.

Kickers with pronounced hook on their kicks are prone to missing when the distance is slightly off what they're used to.

I don't think that makes it a choke, just something he needs to practice more.

Maloney missed one pretty much the same against Melbourne. I've seen Michael Witt miss them, and I dare say he was one of the best sharpshooters of the past 2-3 years.

 

[Marshall_magic]

Probability that you all don't know what you are talking about, p = 1

this

 

[attila_the_gorilla]

Yes each side has a 1/16 chance of winning the comp at the start of the year.

I am not trying to trick anyone here. It is the way the maths works.

But it's not the way the statistics work.

You wouldn't wanna be a bookmaker.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

Oh FFS who cares?