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Do we keep Sandow?

Craig Johnston

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Do you blokes understand the very simple point that I'm making:

If players agree to play for us based on a certain package, a certain proportion of which is made up of third party arrangements, and those third parties don't come about, our club will suffer

It won't help to say:

(A) that was the old board, it's not our problem; or
(b) it's not counted as salary so it's not our problem.

Players and managers will view us as a place where you can't get top dollar, or the deal that you sign up for.

The point I was making by comparison to salary is that the current board can't just turn their noses up at player complaints because the previous board was in place when the deal was put together.

We have a responsibility to do the right thing by players. Not just for the individual concerned, but to have better relatiinships with managers, and as an example to other players.

We can't refuse to pay a player a salary agreed to by the previous board.

In my view the honouring of TPA's should be treated just as seriously and the club should be doing whatever it can behind the scenes to have them honoured.

i agree with the point....that sharpie shouldn't be disowning the responsibility of managing the club's past decisions. "not under my watch" does insinuate that "if it happened before his time tough shit, it's not my problem"......even if he meant it or not.

like seward being thrown under the bus for the foran fiasco, if seward is the ONLY person responsible for negotiating an "irregular" clause, the entire club heirachy should be sacked.
 

strider

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So i saw on channel 9 this morning that we offered him $50K to try and settle this.

While I dont like the little prick n his manager raping us I hope it sorts it out quick.
 

hineyrulz

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The little prick shouldn't get a cent, the cheek of the bloke turning down 50k after 4 years of stealing from us. After all the club has done for him, the sooner the likes of him are banished from the club the better.

Take Wicks for example, came here on a modest deal, worked his arse off and got another year. Has played busted for months but kept putting in for his coach and teammates . As opposed to the little thief wants to leave after sucking millions from us and puts in an effort like that. Any club that takes this jerkoff on have rocks in their heads.
 

hybrideel

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I think also $50K give us breathing space of $80K or so to bring someone up from 2nd Tier which could allow us to pick someone outside the top 25
 

Gronk

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Teach him a lesson- Do not let him go, than put him on the bench for 80 mins every game.

Yeah that'll work. It will cost us $50k per month until end October PLUS we'll be playing with 16 players for the remaining 7 games.

:crazy:
 

forward pass

Coach
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What a sad situation that his tenure at the club is finishing on the sourest of notes.

I know he was a polarising player, but I actually enjoyed watching him play and supported him, but I don't think anyone would have expected it to get to this. His reputation and legacy has been ruined and he will forever be thought of by supporters on equal terms as Jamie Lyon and Ricky Stuart. Sad really.
 

Eelementary

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Teach him a lesson- Do not let him go, than put him on the bench for 80 mins every game.

and how does that help us? ever heard of the saying no player is bigger than the club?

Yeah that'll work. It will cost us $50k per month until end October PLUS we'll be playing with 16 players for the remaining 7 games.

:crazy:

Not only that - what would it teach him, exactly?

His display on Friday proved he doesn't give a f**k, so sitting on the bench for 80 minutes won't bother him.
 

Craig Johnston

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still defends better than chris sandow
 
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i don't get this payout business if i walked up to my boss and said "i'm quitting but i want a redundancy payout" he'd tell me to go f**k myself and i'd just get my entitlements why is it different with sandow?
 
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lingard

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I was prepared to accept his defensive lapses. I was prepared to accept his odd brain explosion. I praised him when he did good. And he did good heaps of times.
In fact, he did good more often than fans were prepared to give him credit for.
Mostly, he only got praise when he did something spectacular - when he stood out as a match winner. He was better than that because he has done a lot of other good stuff as well in games we have lost, and he always came out as a scapegoat in those losses.
I often felt sorry for him, and could see how difficult things could be for him as there was a lot of pressure on him to solve a lot of our deficiencies. A lot of the time - he just wasn't up to it. Poor bugger.

But when I saw what I saw on Friday night, I was disappointed. I was actually angry.

I've had a change of heart tonight though. Please hear me out.
I've had a re-think about what I said before, and what may have caused Chris to be in THAT frame of mind on Friday night.
I worry about Chris.
I cannot take back my words about how disappointed I was in how he represented our jumper on Friday night, but I would also like to express my concern as to why or how someone could come to be feeling that presence of mind.
I hope Chris is alright. I hope he knows that if things don't feel right at the moment, that there are plenty of people who are willing to help. If he is angry at the world atm, the same goes.

We've all gone off to our jobs everyday this week and dealt with our lives as we always do. We haven't had it splashed all over the media. I'm not sure we'd all cope so well under similar conditions. I hope Chris does.

Suity

Nice sentiments, Suity - but I'm afraid I can't agree.
The bloke came to us from Souths - overweight, underdone. Refused to stick to a game-plan. It emerged he had gambling problems - so the club took him out of the game and paid for his rehab (meanwhile, we had to try to compete without our number one half-back, which really left us in the lurch). Came back - was very erratic, drifting in and out of games, not sticking to game plan. Was dropped again to reserves at the start of this season because he still refused to play according to Brad Arthur's wishes. Brad Arthur was forced to reinstate him because Kelly was playing so badly. BUT - guess what? Sandow still wouldn't play the way the coach wanted him to. So Arthur dropped him again. And still he refused to modify his playing style. But Arthur can't drop him because of second-tier cap issues. THEN Sandow comes out publicly and bags the coach and says that if he let him play his way we'd win more games (proving that Sandow learnt nothing from his reserve grade stints and that he was hell-bent on doing it his way). Then, when he is refused a release from the club, he puts in the worst and most obvious example of tanking I have ever seen. And then his immature on-line rant - because the club - and his team mates - had the audacity to be displeased with his behaviour.
This does not look like a 'troubled' player to me. This smacks of a petulant, self-absorbed bloke who desperately needs to grow up and be accountable for his own actions. But not at this club. Let him grow up somewhere else.
 

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