News Do you care if Israel Folau returns to the NRL?

[Bazal]

Gay conversion therapy is a suitably sinister name invented by the press (surprise, surprise) but that's all it means. They don't do shock treatment or anything.

 

[Marshall_magic]

Move the whole circus to the side, would Folau actually bring value to a team? He’s been out of the game for the best part of a decade, is the wrong side of 30 and would demand huge wages. Would he actually be worth it purely from a footballing standpoint?

If the answer is yes, would he also be worth the sideshow that comes along with him? I doubt it. He was always a good target for cross field kicks, but he was never as good as the top earners in the game in my opinion. Always a class below Hayne, Inglis, Gasnier, Hodges and the other elite centres and wingers in the competition. I’d assume he’d be paying fullback if he returned but I can’t imagine him being in the same class as Tedesco, Ponga or Tommy T.

 

[SBD82]

Folau’s social media posts embolden bigots like @The_Frog to publicly defend gay conversion therapy.

That alone should be reason enough for the NRL to distance themselves from him.

 

[NSW Manly]

Folau’s social media posts embolden bigots like @The_Frog to publicly defend gay conversion therapy.

That alone should be reason enough for the NRL to distance themselves from him.

that's an opinion. gay conversion therapy, lol, aye i've heard of it, but seriously, it should be just laughed at.

 

[Smug Panther]

If someone who is same sex attracted wishes to follow Christian (or Muslim for that matter) doctrine, and seeks counselling from priests and such, you have a problem with this? Such people do exist, often wishing to follow a career in theology.

Gay conversion therapy is a suitably sinister name invented by the press (surprise, surprise) but that's all it means. They don't do shock treatment or anything.

Your god doesn't exist you coward

 

[martielang]

Your god doesn't exist you coward

Think it’s time for a Panadol & lie down smugo.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

I’m not going to debate that Lodge, Packer etc shouldn’t be getting gigs. I actually emailed the Broncos a letter when they signed Lodge.

I also find it extremely weird that a fair few people here do not think Folau’s comments are damaging.

Lodge’s shocking attack was towards one family. Folau’s hate speech was directed at entire communities - most adults who identify as LGBT can move past this, but the kids, that would be so hard to hear as you are trying to work yourself out and cling onto hope that people might not care about you being gay.

I do not have a religious bone in my body. And if there is an afterlife, I’m sure old IZZY will enjoy getting railed by Satan. Bye bitch!

 

[BadnMean]

Move the whole circus to the side, would Folau actually bring value to a team? He’s been out of the game for the best part of a decade, is the wrong side of 30 and would demand huge wages. Would he actually be worth it purely from a footballing standpoint?

If the answer is yes, would he also be worth the sideshow that comes along with him? I doubt it. He was always a good target for cross field kicks, but he was never as good as the top earners in the game in my opinion. Always a class below Hayne, Inglis, Gasnier, Hodges and the other elite centres and wingers in the competition. I’d assume he’d be paying fullback if he returned but I can’t imagine him being in the same class as Tedesco, Ponga or Tommy T.

He'd probably go alright. There's a few posters over at the Raiders fansite who are British & they reckon Issy killed it last season.

 

[Smug Panther]

He'd probably go alright. There's a few posters over at the Raiders fansite who are British & they reckon Issy killed it last season.

Now I like Blake Austin but he's a below average player in Australia but over there he's the best player in the comp

 

[BadnMean]

Now I like Blake Austin but he's a below average player in Australia but over there he's the best player in the comp

Yeah you can take some of these with a grain of salt. But since issy was good in the NRL previously & good at rugby, I was making the judgement he'd translate ok.

George Williams came over and didn't miss a beat.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

Can he be a late addition to the charity event and don the gloves against ian roberts?

 

[SBD82]

Can he be a late addition to the charity event and don the gloves against ian roberts?

I am vehemently opposed to my club signing him, but I am fully supportive of Izzy returning with this condition.

 

[SBD82]

that's an opinion. gay conversion therapy, lol, aye i've heard of it, but seriously, it should be just laughed at.

It should be laughed at, but unfortunately it is taken quite seriously by some churches, with very damaging results.

 

[chrisD]

We in modern times rejected "think of the children" as reasonable grounds to suppress expression. The direction we are headed here is disheartening.

 

[Timmah]

We in modern times rejected "think of the children" as reasonable grounds to suppress expression. The direction we are headed here is disheartening.

What expression is being suppressed?

 

[Bazal]

that's an opinion. gay conversion therapy, lol, aye i've heard of it, but seriously, it should be just laughed at.

Oh yeah, I find it particularly hilarious that it kills people in some countries. What a larf!

 

[Disillusioned Tiger]

I don’t care really. He’s like Mundine, why does anyone listen to or care what ge says about anything! There are players who have done worse and have either done their time or none at all (ie Walker). He’s a dinosaur, but any club who signs him must have very understanding sponsors and fans + more dollars than sense!

 

[chrisD]

What expression is being suppressed?

How is this even a question? This whole thing is a thing because someone expressed something you want suppressed. What stupid gotcha are you trying to waste my time with?

 

[Bazal]

How is this even a question? This whole thing is a thing because someone expressed something you want suppressed. What stupid gotcha are you trying to waste my time with?

Whether you agree that this is one of those cases or not, I'm absolutely certain there are things you believe shouldn't be expressed....so your point is largely invalid.

It's simply that you (seemingly) don't believe bashing the gays is a problem. Which is your right and so long as it doesn't extend into bigotry and hate speech like Folau does then whatever, you do you.

 

[chrisD]

Whether you agree that this is one of those cases or not, I'm absolutely certain there are things you believe shouldn't be expressed

It's quite amusing how you just shrug off the concept of freedom of speech like of course no-one could possibly believe in that.