Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

[Angry_eel]

I don't really care. If he doesn't make the finals this year, he's probably gone*

* - Unless he has a clause in his contract ignoring finals performances

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Funny how some commentators set the parameters to suit the outcome of their stats.

Now take it back a couplle of years and it would be closer to Pou stats and no where near 65%

I remember looking at three year rolling win rate historically being a good indicator of a coach’s job security. Arthur’s is very high at the moment.

 

[Twizzle]

so are you by the sound of it

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Fluking a GF win your kidding yourself.

We beat Penrith twice last year. If we won the GF it would have been three times in the season out of 4 games between the teams we had beaten them.

No fluke there.

How do you know Penrith were at their best in those regular season games? Every team has off weeks.

 

[JokerEel]

I remember looking at three year rolling win rate historically being a good indicator of a coach’s job security. Arthur’s is very high at the moment.

2023 has set the bar for BA now he has made a GF now he has to atleast finish the season in the top 6 and make the preliminary finals.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

2023 has set the bar for BA now he has made a GF now he has to atleast finish the season in the top 6 and make the preliminary finals.

That’s bullshit. Finishing top four or missing the eight are both within the range of good and bad luck for a coach at a reasonably strong/stable club like ours.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

so are you by the sound of it

What gets coaches sacked is more losses than wins over a fairly long timeframe. That timeframe seems to be three years. Some examples are Cleary getting sacked by Penrith the first time, and Hasler sacked by Manly last year. Both had a three year rolling win rate (3YRWR) lower than 50%. Arthur’s 3YRWR is currently over 60%. We would need to lose 20 games this year for it to drop below 50%.

 

[Gazzamatta]

One could argue *some forum posters here do the same...

*One

 

[Gazzamatta]

What gets coaches sacked is more losses than wins over a fairly long timeframe. That timeframe seems to be three years. Some examples are Cleary getting sacked by Penrith the first time, and Hasler sacked by Manly last year. Both had a three year rolling win rate (3YRWR) lower than 50%. Arthur’s 3YRWR is currently over 60%. We would need to lose 20 games this year for it to drop below 50%.

Didnt Griffin have The Pennys in the top 4 when he met his demise?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Didnt Griffin have The Pennys in the top 4 when he met his demise?

Yep, and Penrith were trying to retain their star halfback. They did it by sacking a relatively successful coach in favour of a relative failure. Lucky for him he happened to be a relative of the player in question.

 

[TheParraboy]

So with BA extending to end of 2025

Everyone raise a glass

Brad Arthur extends until 2025

The Parramatta Eels have extended the contract of Head Coach Brad Arthur.

www.parraeels.com.au

 

[Gazzamatta]

Yep, and Penrith were trying to retain their star halfback. They did it by sacking a relatively successful coach in favour of a relative failure. Lucky for him he happened to be a relative of the player in question.

So there are exceptions to your previous comment. Ok I got it now. Ta Poo.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So there are exceptions to your previous comment. Ok I got it now. Ta Poo.

There’s always exceptions. Hasler’s 3YRWR was very good when the Dogs got rid of him.

Also proof that a subpar coach in his last ditch at the Tigers can suddenly go to a strong club and become a good coach after 15 years of failure.

 

[the phantom menace]

There’s always exceptions.

To every comment he makes...

 

[JokerEel]

That’s bullshit. Finishing top four or missing the eight are both within the range of good and bad luck for a coach at a reasonably strong/stable club like ours.

Well there would be other factors at play like injuries to players.

You need a high standard though not finishing in the top 8.

 

[hindy111]

That’s bullshit. Finishing top four or missing the eight are both within the range of good and bad luck for a coach at a reasonably strong/stable club like ours.

I think regardless how we go this year he was always going to be given 2024 based on the fact we just made the grand final.
They where not going to sack him even if we finished bottom 4.

If his contract did end in 2024 (prior to extension) and we had a poor start to 2024 then I reckon mid season he may be asked to walk and a fill in coach finishes the year. This is never a great advantage in most cases.
If we failed in 2024 along with 2023 regarldess of his contract extension for 2025 he will be sacked. I don't feel a lots changed based on everything I have said.

I don't think he will fail but. I think we've played well below our best and almost won both games. Heaps of players have been below par and we also have guys to come back.

 

[the phantom menace]

And we have 3 squad positions to fill - and badly need an adequate centre, dummy half relief, and another bench forward that will/can be trusted to do decent minutes.

 

[hindy111]

I reckon players wages should be made public. People will argue our wages aren't but that's bullshit. Everyone knows what most peoples incomes are. Just jump on jobseeker.

 

[Twizzle]

I reckon players wages should be made public.

would you like your returns to be made public ?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

To every comment he makes...

If you’re looking for absolutes, rugby league isn’t the place for you. Try following maths or physics as a hobby instead.