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Doust at it again

Goddo

Bench
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I agree on the not newsworthy part but you and I don't decide what is news.

You are right, opinionated jurnos with an agenda of "selling" news to advertisers and their own hidden biases and agendas do. The Dragons have the right to decide how the club brand is promoted and shown within their ability, just as every other club is.

Sometimes they get this wrong, a good example being our hideous jerseys for 2010. But St George have decided that they rather not have a low budget low audience News Corp production company nosing around the club. Maybe if the Dragons were paid royalties for it, it might be worth it. But if it is simply lining the pockets of Foxtel why bother?

Its a non issue. Dragons fans don't care about this at all. Just Rotfield sh!t stiring again, and you are all biting.

In regards to sponsors, Souths have just as much success as the Dragons in attracting and retaining sponsors and I've no doubt the sponsors would prefer to see them on this show, than not.

We also have Souths TV.

Maximum exposure is what sponsors want.

To suggest otherwise is delusionary.

If it achieves positive publicity. A show seen by relatively few people and is poorly produced, you could argue that a sponsor wouldn't want to be associated with it. Each of these shows is trying to capture the audience of a clubs fan base, hence targeting the clubs with bigger fan bases to maximise TV viewership and revenue for Foxtel. They don't care about the Dragons at all.

Fans and sponsors aren't going to turn around and ditch the club for another just because there wasn't a poorly edited wooden 30 min puff piece on a Foxtel subscription channel in the off season. They probably could show a previous season game and get more viewers, which I think makes this all a bit pointless.

I see this show as being good for a club like Canberra, who need the exposure and brand building, but for a club like St George, it really is a waste of time.

Good work Bennet and Doust.
 

Paullyboy

Coach
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I don't particularly agree with Doust, but I'm even further against Tapp for the reasons pointed out previously by someone in this thread.

Tapp has come out and acted like he's been dealt some harsh injustice, yet he didn't feel it appropriate to allocate the 3 hours of his life required to drive to Canberra and do a piece on the Raiders? If he is that desperate for content, go show the Raiders.

(For the record I don't have fox so therefore don't care either way who they show)
 

Fein

First Grade
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Sometimes they get this wrong, a good example being our hideous jerseys for 2010. But St George have decided that they rather not have a low budget low audience News Corp production company nosing around the club. Maybe if the Dragons were paid royalties for it, it might be worth it. But if it is simply lining the pockets of Foxtel why bother?

I'm not sure of what the ratings are but I'd say "low audience" isn't right - clearly plenty here watch it.

Why would royalties be paid, are the Dragons royalty?

That's pretty arrogant to be honest.

It's free advertising of a club and in turn its sponsors as well as being a service to fans of the club and the game itself.

Its a non issue. Dragons fans don't care about this at all. Just Rotfield sh!t stiring again, and you are all biting.

That's fair enough - btw, Dean Ritchie wrote the article.


If it achieves positive publicity. A show seen by relatively few people and is poorly produced, you could argue that a sponsor wouldn't want to be associated with it. Each of these shows is trying to capture the audience of a clubs fan base, hence targeting the clubs with bigger fan bases to maximise TV viewership and revenue for Foxtel. They don't care about the Dragons at all.

I can't see how it wouldn't generate positive publicity, every episode I have ever seen did.

As for the clubs targetted by Tapp, they are Sydney clubs. I'd like to see one on all 16 but his budget seems to hinder that.


Fans and sponsors aren't going to turn around and ditch the club for another just because there wasn't a poorly edited wooden 30 min puff piece on a Foxtel subscription channel in the off season.

Fans won't but if I were a Dragons sponsor I'd be wanting to know why my dollars were not being maximised at every opportunity.

Your comments on the show itself are subjective - I like it for what it is, information about clubs for the coming season.

They probably could show a previous season game and get more viewers, which I think makes this all a bit pointless.

Fox do this anyway.

I see this show as being good for a club like Canberra, who need the exposure and brand building, but for a club like St George, it really is a waste of time.

Dragon arrogance personified.
 

Big Time

Juniors
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You have to be married to understand that, or his wife is as submissive as a pussy cat.


I am married. My wife is happy. She is quite happy with what I do for her, :D. Don't listen to these pussycats gentlemen. The day your partner starts telling you what to do, it is time to update. If you want Fox on, u just put it on. You should then have her trained to bring you food, and beer whilst you don't move from your favourite lounge chair every saturday. Then when your team wins, she shoud see your delight, and pleasure you. That is what a good wife should do.
 

Willow

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If I was a shirt sponsor and I'd been denied 30mins TV air time for my company I'd care!
With respect, you're overstating the importance of this.

I don't know what it's like in Perth, I'm guessing League is screaming for any form of coverage. But the Dragons in Sydney meet loads of media commitments every week. The sponsors and fans are well catered for - much better than in years gone by.

Most NRL teams try to meet all their commitments, but of course they can't be everywhere. Plus some are just not worth doing for a whole range of reasons.

On the Gold Coast, the Titans are well promoted. Not long ago, production companies and media were lining up to get on board. But they don't grant interviews with every outlet or get in front of every camera crew. No one seems to complain about that.

When players or clubs haven't got the time, normally people don't whinge about it. Saying stuff like how they have 'missed a golden opportunity', or 'think about the fans', or 'it's for the good of the game'. Quite frankly, it's just a wank.


And very funny to read opposition fans saying how the club is snubbing St George supporters. The vast majority of Saints fans don't give a toss about Tapp's production company or his little TV show, that's evident in this thread. But it must be true because you read it in the paper. lol
 

Big Time

Juniors
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Another example of Doust being the worst club exec in the modern game. The sooner clubs get rid of this amateurism within their setups the better.

How the hell can an idiot like Doust blackout any free media that does nothing but a positive promotion of his club, justify it without sounding either petty or just plain stupid to the point of incompetency?

Oh I know, he can't. What a moron. To the contrary, what a top notch CEO would maybe angle for is maybe sell them (the media outlet) on expanding the coverage to a more in depth look at the club and extend the show to 1 hour if possible, ffs.

Free coverage and publicity for your club in an off season where fans are salivating for any up to date news or coverage of their team and players. What a great way to sell what ever programs or club offers e.g.( membership drives, fan days) they may have. Not to mention the value that the sponsors will gain in a period of the year that the sponsors don't get much value for their contribution at all.

What a fool, and a big snub to all the St George supporters that would have loved to have seen their team on the box chirping about their bonifides like all the other teams that did get that opportunity and didn't squander it so mind numbingly stupidly.


I could not read all this. You jibberer.

For starters Doust got Bennett to the club, so he must be doing something right. We are second behind Souths in members, so again, something is going right there.

I would dare say despite what you have suggested in your last paragraph, most dragons fans don't give a flying f**k. As i said, i can plenty of info by being a Red V member.

So probably best that you neck up you belter.
 

Goddo

Bench
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^ Fien, and you are jelous Rabbits personified... crawl back into your burrow, put on your tin foil hat and keep dreaming of one day picking the winning side of an argument.
 
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Mr Saab

Referee
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I am married. My wife is happy. She is quite happy with what I do for her, :D. Don't listen to these pussycats gentlemen. The day your partner starts telling you what to do, it is time to update. If you want Fox on, u just put it on. You should then have her trained to bring you food, and beer whilst you don't move from your favourite lounge chair every saturday. Then when your team wins, she shoud see your delight, and pleasure you. That is what a good wife should do.

And what is it that you do for your wife to make her happy
 

Fein

First Grade
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You are right, opinionated jurnos with an agenda of "selling" news to advertisers and their own hidden biases and agendas do. The Dragons have the right to decide how the club brand is promoted and shown within their ability, just as every other club is.

Sometimes they get this wrong, a good example being our hideous jerseys for 2010. But St George have decided that they rather not have a low budget low audience News Corp production company nosing around the club. Maybe if the Dragons were paid royalties for it, it might be worth it. But if it is simply lining the pockets of Foxtel why bother?

Its a non issue. Dragons fans don't care about this at all. Just Rotfield sh!t stiring again, and you are all biting.



If it achieves positive publicity. A show seen by relatively few people and is poorly produced, you could argue that a sponsor wouldn't want to be associated with it. Each of these shows is trying to capture the audience of a clubs fan base, hence targeting the clubs with bigger fan bases to maximise TV viewership and revenue for Foxtel. They don't care about the Dragons at all.

Fans and sponsors aren't going to turn around and ditch the club for another just because there wasn't a poorly edited wooden 30 min puff piece on a Foxtel subscription channel in the off season. They probably could show a previous season game and get more viewers, which I think makes this all a bit pointless.

I see this show as being good for a club like Canberra, who need the exposure and brand building, but for a club like St George, it really is a waste of time.

Good work Bennet and Doust.

^ Fien, and you are jelous Rabbits personified... crawl back into your burrow, put on your tin foil hat and keep dreaming of one day picking the winning side of an argument.

:lol::lol:
 

Firey_Dragon

Coach
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The reasons as to why Doust declined are well known now. I for one support it, if Tapp really cared about our fans, then we should have been able to use the footage, we did afterall provide the time to support his program. Dragons fans get plenty of support footage on our website, I couldn't care less about a poorly produced television show that can't even get players names right half the time.

The only fans who seem upset by this are from the opposition, it's only another reason to have a go at our club, with very little merit. But bring the hate, we love it.

At the end of the day, Tapp is only upset that he missed out on getting one of his most watched episodes.
 

PJ Marshal

Coach
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doust is the new fitzgerald, the papers need a ceo to pick on

now that parra and the dogs have golden haired boys in charge
 

Dragon Dave

Bench
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To all those who think us Saints fans are "missing out," check out or website and Dragons TV which has up to 4 videos added every week.

It's funny how alot on here say they hate Saints so much, yet they are genuinely upset that they can't see a TV program based purely on the club they despise so much.
 

DB

First Grade
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Its a good show, very informative..... AM I disappointed that we will miss the dragons on it.... No. I couldn't care if the Dragons were on it or not.

Its just another attempt to de-rail the club
 

sharko

Juniors
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The Telecrap have probably decided that it is Saints turn this year to cop some slander and grief via their low brow publication..it will start with sexual assualt innuendo and allegations of homosexuality in the Dragons dressing sheds and boardroom , then illicit drug use and crowd violence..this will be detrimental to Saints sponsors who will look at reducing their involvement with the club.
The Telecrap used the same tactics against the Sharks and Roosters in 2009, I assume they will choose the Saints and maybe the Cowboys this year!
 

Firey_Dragon

Coach
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The Telecrap have probably decided that it is Saints turn this year to cop some slander and grief via their low brow publication..it will start with sexual assualt innuendo and allegations of homosexuality in the Dragons dressing sheds and boardroom , then illicit drug use and crowd violence..this will be detrimental to Saints sponsors who will look at reducing their involvement with the club.
The Telecrap used the same tactics against the Sharks and Roosters in 2009, I assume they will choose the Saints and maybe the Cowboys this year!

They decided it last year. Rothfield alone was writing 3 or 4 negative articles per week on us for most of the season. They know they'll get a rise out of our passionate fanbase, which means hits on their site, and sales of their papers. Fans of the dragons hate reading the bad publicity, and opposition fans love it, that tabloid paper doesn't care about printing the truth, only what sells papers and they're onto a winner with anything about the Saints.

The funny thing is though, we give them absolutely nothing off field that is controversial, so the vast majority of it is nothing articles... Very much like this one.
 

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