Dragons chase Jarryd Hayne

[TomRedVRiver]

I just hope the club has a contingency plan in place... Because if we offload Dufty for Hayne, and Hayne doesn't fire at fullback, we're immediately going to have to hit the market again.

 

[Crush]

This is a concern. If Hayne comes to Dragons he should play centre or wing.
We don't need all the hype of Hayne at 1 for Dragons. He's another Dugan at 1.

 

[BLM01]

I just hope the club has a contingency plan in place... Because if we offload Dufty for Hayne, and Hayne doesn't fire at fullback, we're immediately going to have to hit the market again.

There is no reason why they could not afford both. There are others that could be offloaded before Dufty.who are off contract at the end of this year.
Give the kid a chance to fully develop and grow into the riole FFS. As I have said before if he under performs this year then no one will pay 700K and his price will come down. If he does perform improve then 700K is a good buy for him. Offload Nicholls, say a Latimore or even Mann if we have to and someone else can manufacture into a back utility as they are both off contract in 2019

 

[hewi]

I find the saga of Dufty quite difficult. We all want a premiership, putting aside the coach could we win it with him at fullback? After much thought and his form at the end of last season I feel the answer is a no. There is no question he can score a try and has blistering pace, however late last season he became a crabber going sideways looking for a hole , then there was his refusal if that’s the right word to take the high ball, lastly his defence also a bit suspect. So I agree we need a plan B , is Hayne the answer, maybe but only a two year contract and must have some form of incentive in the clubs favour.

 

[barry]

I just hope the club has a contingency plan in place... Because if we offload Dufty for Hayne, and Hayne doesn't fire at fullback, we're immediately going to have to hit the market again.

Jai Field

 

[BLM01]

I find the saga of Dufty quite difficult. We all want a premiership, putting aside the coach could we win it with him at fullback? After much thought and his form at the end of last season I feel the answer is a no. There is no question he can score a try and has blistering pace, however late last season he became a crabber going sideways looking for a hole , then there was his refusal if that’s the right word to take the high ball, lastly his defence also a bit suspect. So I agree we need a plan B , is Hayne the answer, maybe but only a two year contract and must have some form of incentive in the clubs favour.

Solution is simple, get Tariq Sims deal done then we know what we have left for 2020 and beyond and to sign a Hayne from 2019. Back to 2019, where we must have cap space For Hayne for this year's cap, dont offload anyone, sign Hayne. Then pressure is on all the backs 1-5 from pre season including Hayne to perform cause 6 does not go into 5 + still have Mann, so if that does not lift performance to hold your spot nothing will then sack the coaching staff. The problem our backs have had in the past Mann was not enough to put pressure on stealing their spot. Mann + Hayne combined will change all that and by mid season it will be clearer which one or 2 out of Dufty, Periera, Hayne, Mann, Lafai, Aitken we may have to let go from 2020 and beyond, to accommodate the new and young breed in 1st grade in the backfield

 

[nrlnrl]

Dragons prepared to offload fullback Dufty in order to nab Hayne
By Adrian Proszenko
13 November 2018 — 11:00pm


The Eels are desperate to keep him but have only $200,000 left in the kitty. They are hoping to move on at least one player - there is some interest from Newcastle in Michael Jennings - in order to accommodate the two-time Dally M medallist.

This was true, but the Knights have multiple options at centre, recently adding Hymel Hunt to Jesse Ramien & Tautau Moga. Plus they have SKD, Sione Mata'utia & even Edrick Lee as players who can fill in at centre. I would be a waste of a $300K-$600K contract for Jennings (he'd still be able to get that). As Brad Walter mentioned on nrl.com, after Klemmer is confirmed, they'll only have 2 spots left on their 30-man roster & 1 would be for a development player. (no need for another outside back)

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/13...-hopes-of-jarryd-hayne-staying-at-parramatta/

 

[Old Timer]

Jai Field

His defence is as suspect as Dufty’s so how is he an option?

 

[True_Believer]

Tariq close to resigning is great news.

Looks like reports of Dufty overestimating his value were true. Hope we don't budge and make him come down, he's not at that point yet

I have heard that it's not actually Dufty requesting more money. I am lead to believe it's a stand off between his manager and the club. Not sure how true it is, but apparently Duft is desperate to stay at the club on his current salary.

Also, I was looking at some of the highlights from the games this year. During the period where we were on top, Duft did some pretty good stuff - some good defence and attack and he did perform well under the high ball at times. I think it's consistency. During our losing period his deficiencies were more apparent, but he does have the ability to do these things - he just needs time to develop and be more consistent.

You also have to look at the gap between ISP and NRL. Watching some of the highlights from his time in ISP, it appears to be a different game style. Defence is often non-existent (not just Dufty but the games seem to be focussed on attack rather than defence) so I'd be concerned that dropping him back to ISP won't resolve his defensive problems. It also seems that Duft played more of a support role out the back - backing up, following through etc. That's not how he plays in NRL.

It's a balancing act. I'd be concerned if we were to let him go - there's definitely talent there, it's just making sure we nurture it. But I'm not sure we can do that adequately in ISP.

 

[Ted bartolo]

I have heard that it's not actually Dufty requesting more money. I am lead to believe it's a stand off between his manager and the club. Not sure how true it is, but apparently Duft is desperate to stay at the club on his current salary.

Also, I was looking at some of the highlights from the games this year. During the period where we were on top, Duft did some pretty good stuff - some good defence and attack and he did perform well under the high ball at times. I think it's consistency. During our losing period his deficiencies were more apparent, but he does have the ability to do these things - he just needs time to develop and be more consistent.

You also have to look at the gap between ISP and NRL. Watching some of the highlights from his time in ISP, it appears to be a different game style. Defence is often non-existent (not just Dufty but the games seem to be focussed on attack rather than defence) so I'd be concerned that dropping him back to ISP won't resolve his defensive problems. It also seems that Duft played more of a support role out the back - backing up, following through etc. That's not how he plays in NRL.

It's a balancing act. I'd be concerned if we were to let him go - there's definitely talent there, it's just making sure we nurture it. But I'm not sure we can do that adequately in ISP.

Personally I would try to get rid of Lafai.Much more a Liability than Dufty.And as someone has said we need speed.

 

[hazzbeen]

Personally I would try to get rid of Lafai.Much more a Liability than Dufty.

Spot on mate , I'd be keeping Dufty ....

 

[Saints Forever]

Keep Dufty I say. It would be ridiculous to release him. He is unlikely to be on big coin. His attacking brilliance outweighs his current defensive/positional/high ball deficiencies.

f**k off the notion of Hayne. The 2009 version of Hayne would be worth 1.2M today. The 2018/19 version is worth 500k max.

He turns every club into a circus. Hasn't consistently played well for many years.

More likely to disrupt the joint than improve it.

 

[Rob Dragon]

Completely and utterly insane. Hayne has not been fit enough for 2 seasons to play at full-back so what makes us think he will get the necessary fitness now as a 31 year old? And we will release a local junior with speed to burn and tremendous upside to sign a 30+ year old player with a reputation for ruining culture. Unbelievable. This reeks of an attempt to win a comp and make McGregor a 20 year coach at the club. I fell like throwing up. Who is running the place?

 

[getsmarty]

Jarryd Hayne: Knights close door on Eels return as Dragons reportedly clear runway space
2 hrs ago

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Jarryd Hayne’s dream of returning to the Parramatta Eels in 2019 appears over – but St George Illawarra are reportedly set to get serious in their bid to lure the club-less veteran to Wollongong.


The two-time Dally M medallist’s one-year deal with the Eels expired at the end of last month and he remains unemployed despite both player and club publicly expressing a desire to reunite next season.

For the Eels to fit the former NSW and Australia star under their salary cap they need to move at least one high-profile player on to a rival club.

Veteran centre Michael Jennings has been linked with the Newcastle Knights in recent weeks in a move that would have freed up enough cap space for the Eels to pay Hayne’s estimated $700,000 asking price.

But the Knights’ decision to sign former South Sydney utility Hymel Hunt on a one-year deal has squashed the Jennings rumours and seemingly ended Hayne’s Eels career.

Parramatta have unsuccessfully shopped Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman to rival clubs and unless either playmaker finds a new employer in the coming months Hayne will be squeezed out.

The Dragons emerged as possible suitors for Hayne last month and are reportedly ready to ramp up their pursuit of the 30-year-old.

According to Fairfax Media, the Red V are prepared to offload enigmatic full-back Matt Dufty before the start of the NRL season in order to secure Hayne’s signature.

Dufty, who is contracted until the end of 2019, has produced plenty of eye-catching moments in his brief career in first-grade but inconsistency remains a problem.

Dragons officials believe the addition of Hayne would help fill the void left by the off-season departures of Nene Macdonald (North Queensland) and Jason Nightingale (retired).

Hayne is yet to comment publicly on the Dragons’ rumoured interest.

The former San Francisco 49ers running back has also been linked with a possible move to rugby union, however, a move to the Dragons now appears far more likely.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rug...edly-clear-runway-space/ar-BBPFI4C?li=AAgg0Zv

 

[SEAT 1A]

I have heard that it's not actually Dufty requesting more money. I am lead to believe it's a stand off between his manager and the club. Not sure how true it is, but apparently Duft is desperate to stay at the club on his current salary.

I'm hoping it's somewhere between the two. Player wants to stay, it's the managers job to maximise players return however, if Duff is happy with the offer finalise the contract.

 

[SEAT 1A]

Parramatta have unsuccessfully shopped Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman to rival clubs and unless either playmaker finds a new employer in the coming months Hayne will be squeezed out.

I'm surprised the club hasn't moved on Norman.

Norman to fullback, we could give the title a good shake.

No Norman, keep the Duff in the Red V.

 

[rednwhites]

Dufty, for al his defensive weakness and inconsistency, had more potency than Dugan when it came to scoring tries. Something we need going forward. In my opinion Hayne is a step down from Dugan on age at least and he is no certainty to bring professionalism.

Having said that, I never want to relive Dufty's feeble efforts against the Dogs.

We should have signed a specialist winger to replace Nene, one that has actually made it in first grade. We should be able to afford a decent one, no excuses.

 

[Gareth67]

Duffy is a bit similar to Ted Goodwin. - hot and cold , even so I would much rather have him in my team than have to play against him . They would be lunatics to release the kid so as to get Hayne .

Sure the Dragons definitely need the services of a player such as Hayne in a somewhat fragile back line - he would certainly give the team that ‘x’ factor .

But for mine he would be better positioned in the centers or wing along with Lomax , but we must keep Duffy and allowe him the opportunity to truly develop as a genuine No. 1 .

 

[hazzbeen]

Its like do what we can to win the Comp with Mary at the helm . Signing Hayne for a two year period , win the premiership then we will see what happens after that ... Hayne is a short term fix , for me Dufty is a long term option .... The kids only had one season in to grade....

 

[muzby]

Hayne is a short term fix , for me Dufty is a long term option .... The kids only had one season in to grade....

This is my concern..

We sign Hayne, then in 2 years time we have a hole in the spine again..

We’ll either be forced to pay overs for a fullback from another club (remember moltzen everyone?) or sit and hope that a junior with potential can make grade (remember Evander Cummins everyone?)

Dufty has shown he can be a great player.. let’s not forget he’s only played around 30 games in first grade.. the consistency will come with experience..