Dragons chase Jarryd Hayne

[redandwhite4evr]

Defence

Succinct but unclear Possm- are you saying that defence can't be coached?

 

[Saints Forever]

So we lose Mann and potentially also Dufty to chase Hayne.

This is stupidity plus.

Mann can play every position in the backline including fullback.

He would be on ordinary money as would Matt Dufty.

Only plus if Hayne comes is that Mary will be gone by end of 2019.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

Now we are talking!
Dufty + Hayne - Mann
It's a yes from me.

Character is not a quality for a footballer that is often spoken of but this is one guy (like Graham) who I believe you build a club around. He's never been given a chance at a starting centre position (unlike the ordinary Lafai and Aitken) which I believe he is suited to so if he is going, it's OUR loss. Another one, used poorly by Mary, bites the dust.

 

[blacksafake]

Now we are talking!
Dufty + Hayne - Mann
It's a yes from me.

I’m still not sold.
I know all the better players have attitude & arrogance which puts them above most. I’ve been far from impressed with him times I’ve met him & have serious concerns his “I’m better than you” attitude could have negative consequences on the team.
Two on field examples stick in my mind with those being the time when scoring to win origin he was too concerned with standing on the fence like God in front of the fans instead of celebrating with his teammates. The other was this is “my town” rant at Campbelltown. If he really wants to come win a premiership with us well he may win me over. But

 

[BIG RIG]

If Mann does leave id like to thank him for his great services for the Dragons

Plus Hayne and Dufty is a yes for me

 

[redandwhite4evr]

So we lose Mann and potentially also Dufty to chase Hayne.

This is stupidity plus.

Mann can play every position in the backline including fullback.

He would be on ordinary money as would Matt Dufty.

Only plus if Hayne comes is that Mary will be gone by end of 2019.

Hayne is a drama queen- SGI would be getting attention for all the wrong reasons.

 

[rednwhites]

Some clubs and coaches just go out and get their men and make them want to be there.

Others dilly-dally, make cuts and compromises, plead and grovel.

2009, 2019 stark contrast.

 

[JDHD]

I love how many people have turned on Dufty due to his defence or laziness or asking price. Because, y’know, Hayne is such an affordable, defensive workhorse

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

The Smelliegraph saying, "Time Running Out for Hayne to make a Decision."

I can't post the story but thank heavens for that. Hopefully the whole thing can be over by Friday.

Like many, I know l'm over it.

As much as l wanted him here for all the right reasons, I'm not happy to lose Man or Duffy to make it happen.

 

[BLM01]

If Newy is where Mann ends up, still don't knew where he plays?

With Ramien, Moga, SKD, Edrick Lee and Hymel Hunt, he'll have as many people in front of him as the Dragons do (assuming that's why he wants out).

The mail I got about Mann going to Newcastle was supposedly done a few week back was based on Ponga will likely play 5/8th next year (if he chooses) and Mann will have a go at a fullback spot or as some journo mentioned hooker? They have Levi and Connor Watson and now Mason Lino..so depth OK at the Knights

 

[BLM01]

The Smelliegraph saying, "Time Running Out for Hayne to make a Decision."

I can't post the story but thank heavens for that. Hopefully the whole thing can be over by Friday.

Like many, I know l'm over it.

As much as l wanted him here for all the right reasons, I'm not happy to lose Man or Duffy to make it happen.

Mann.. we can man up without him. Dufty loss would of rocked me as somoene will If we cant will turn him into something I think special, I dont care or am worried about his defensive deficiencies or fear for contact just at the moment. That can be coached and practice will give him confidence. Then again we are talking about Mary & Co.

 

[nrlnrl]

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There were reports around a month ago that Brown wants to turn him into a hooker

Correct, Slade Griffin could be forced into early retirement & the Knights aren't convinced about Danny Levi.

It's interesting to see how differently the SMH & Tele have interpreted the situation. ( Tele - Mann leaving, SMH - Dufty being shopped/pushed out) I think the Tele have got this one right & it looks a really good move for the Dragons. I remember reding a quote from McGregor where he said if they sign Hayne he wouldn't necessarily be forcing Dufty away from fullback. He could end up there if Dufty isn't in form, but Hayne would be used in the centres & on wing initially.

When he's motivated, Hayne is still one of the best open field runners in the NRL, some of his breaks in 2018 were amazing. Surely he realises the Dragons are the better option for him to win a comp, something missing from his cv.

 

[BLM01]

Anyway as the Calm One says..Hayne wont be coming to the Dragons. I'll have a $2 bet on that.

 

[The calm one]

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Anyway as the Calm One says..Hayne wont be coming to the Dragons. I'll have a $2 bet on that.

It is good to see you have faith my friend. Stay calm

 

[Dragonslayer]

Hayne decision on whether to leave Parramatta for the Red V
Paul Crawley, The Daily Telegraph
an hour ago

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Decision day is fast approaching for Jarryd Hayne with St George Illawarra returning to full pre-season training on Monday.

One way or another, the Dragons would like to know at some stage next week if the two-time Dally M Medal winner wants in with them for 2019.

The Dragons are adamant they are not attempting to push young fullback Matt Dufty out of the club to sign Hayne.

Will Hayne quit the Eels a second time? (Matt King/Getty Images)
Rather, the Dragons’ interest was sparked as a direct result of utility back Kurt Mann’s request for a release.

Mann has an option to link with Newcastle where he believes he has a better chance of nailing down a starting spot and the Dragons are open to the move providing they can find a suitable player to fill the spot available on their roster.

Kurt Mann could be on his way to Newcastle. (AAP Image/Craig Golding)
And they make no secret of the fact Hayne could be that man.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that both head coach Paul McGregor and recruitment boss Ian Millward have both spoken with Hayne about the possibility and have been hugely impressed with Hayne’s attitude and football intelligence.

The decision Hayne now has to make is if he wants to stick it out and see if Parramatta can come up with the money to make him a serious offer, or join the Dragons where he will be a part of a squad that is a legitimate premiership threat.

While Hayne has achieved pretty much every individual goal on offer in the game, they one thing he has never done is win an NRL title and the reality is time is running out for him to do that.

he Dragons want to put give Dufty some serious competition. (Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images)
The Dragons are prepared to be patient but they would still like to know sooner rather than later so they can also give Mann clarity about his future, given Mann’s release hinges on the club finding a suitable replacement.

It’s no secret Hayne’s first priority is to stay at Parramatta but as it stands the Eels just don’t have the money in their salary cap to make Hayne a genuine offer.

It has been reported Hayne is chasing a deal worth about $700,000 a season but unless Parramatta can offload a top shelf player they just can’t fit him in.




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Adding to the Eels’ dilemma, the chances of offloading Michael Jennings to Newcastle now appear less likely following Hymel Hunt’s decision to move to the Knights.

While the Dragons are somewhat short of the money Hayne is chasing, they are a lot closer to the ballpark and they are also open to making the deal longer than just the one year.

Understandably, speculation about Hayne’s possible link with the Dragons has caused Dufty some anxious moments but the club do not want to push the 22-year-old out to make way Hayne.

The Dragons need to cover the loss of Nene MacDonald. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
There were some questions raised about Dufty late in the season but the way he bounced back to form against Newcastle in the final round earned plenty of praise from within.

No doubt if Hayne does go to the Dragons it will put added pressure on Dufty to keep hold of the No 1 jumper but ultimately it will come down to who plays the best football next year.

Hayne would also be ideal playing wing or centre and given the Dragons have lost both Jason Nightingale (retirement) and Nene Macdonald (North Queensland) Hayne would be the perfect fit.

As good as Hayne would be for the Dragons, they also believe the culture within their playing group would have a positive impact on Hayne

So, if the rhetoric is correct in this article, then it seems Hayne holds the ticket that impacts many players, including himself, Dufty, Mann, Aitken, Periera and Pearson.

My guess is then Dufty will stay at fullback with Hayne as a centre or wing.

 

[rasaint]

I must say that Kurt gets much comment. It seems some people believe Kurt is a gun player who is unappreciated by the Dragons and other clubs are hanging out to buy him and place him straight into the run on side. Others consider him below average and very limited.

My view is that he is neither of the above. He is a competent 1st grader. I doubt any nrl team will play him at his preferred position of 5/8. He doesnt have that game vision. Did I mis read something saying that Quienton Pongia is sick? I sure hope not.

I know this is an ‘emotional comment’ but last season I saw for the 1st time in a long time an exciting flying machine with a red v jersey on. I saw exciting long range trys and a bloke skipping between players and burning the opposition. That guy is Matt Dufty. Please keep him if Hayne has to come here. For clarity I’m not saying Matt is a super star etc, yes he has downside ; just that’s it’s such a buzz watching a born and bred dragon who runs like the wind.

 

[GC Dragon]

The thing that bothers me about Hayne coming here is that we are being treated as his absolute last resort . Fiji rugby has put a line through him , French Rugby has said he would only be used as a replacement now that there season has started , Aust / Nz rugby are not interested .
He has stated he wants to stay at Parra and is clearly stretching it out as long as possible for them to off load a player to keep him . No other NRL club seems to have any genuine interest .
It seems to say more about us than him what we have become .
If we are to make a play for him I would like Millward to come out and put a deadline on it and stick to it . If he signs all well and good . If he doesn't we need move on and chase a genuine replacement for McDonald . The equal or better should be the mission .

 

[barry]

No one can blame Kurt for wanting out.
Good luck to him, alas I will have to withdraw as president of the Kurt Mann fan club.

CC

Mann played in every game last year, was given the starting 5/8 role when Widdop was injured, had the privilege to start at 5/8 in a do or die semi final and failed... never impressed in his other games either and proved that he is an average first grader at the very best.

Yet for some reason all I hear about is how people can’t understand why he hasn’t asked for a realese and how bad the clubs treated him....

I’m lost

 

[nontime111]

cant keep em all.....bottom line is Hayne is a far better player than Mann

its an upgrade by heaps

think about it, a lot of points in this backline and pretty good defence too Id say, Pearson might eventually become an upgrade on Nene also if given a few games

Dufty
Pearson
Lomax/ Aitken/Lafia
Hayne
Periera/ Lomax
Widdop
Hunt

 

[jak]

Hayne is a drama queen- SGI would be getting attention for all the wrong reasons.

I'm afraid the nrl is the new home for drama queens hayne just one of many.