Dragons chase Jarryd Hayne

[Brutalitops]

They are on the books right now with two years to go on thsir contract. Of course if Aitken and Lafai ask for a release, let them go. But I doubt that either would be of interest to another NRL Club.

You're crazy if you don't think they couldn't find another club. Aitken is young and came not terribly far from Origin contention, and Lafai is far from horrible, just inconsistent

Like you, I don't think either are our long term answers , but you undercut your points with outlandish statements like that

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

I spent a week in Canberra recently, first time in 30+ years even though I’ve driven past it countless times. I was blown away. It’s changed enormously and I was very impressed. Quiet cosmopolitan and trendy in the City, nice in the burbs, the new trams will be excellent and if not for the cold winters I could live there easily over Sydney. I have a son that now lives there and the youngsters (20’s) love it.

I too use to go there quite a bit many yonks ago and only recently went back there with Mrs OKB and some family.

I felt like Chevy Chase on the motorway though. "Look kids, there's the War Museum..... again!"

It was very dry and hadn't seen rain since Noah parked his yacht.

We experienced a poor nights rest in a city motel but it was nice to see it all again, especially the Avro Lancaster at the War Museum.

 

[ouryears]

You're crazy if you don't think they couldn't find another club. Aitken is young and came not terribly far from Origin contention, and Lafai is far from horrible, just inconsistent

Like you, I don't think either are our long term answers , but you undercut your points with outlandish statements like that

I cannot think of one club where either would oust the current centres.
They may get a go as depth players somewhere, parramatta, grubs, tigers
So what centres would they push out at any club?
Cabra bloody matta or Ipswich jets maybe

 

[ouryears]

I'm pleased this all happened before we signed Hayne and released Mann. I hope Mann will not be unhappy playing at the Dragons if we do not release him? I feel he never reached his potential under McGregor and he probably thinks the same. If we were to release him this would free up even more money to chase an experienced in peak form back. The problem is there are none available for 2019.

He hasn’t reached his potential yet
Part of the reason is he needs a wee bit more mongrel in his blood
Needs a bit of attitude in my opinion

 

[Brutalitops]

I cannot think of one club where either would oust the current centres.
They may get a go as depth players somewhere, parramatta, grubs, tigers
So what centres would they push out at any club?
Cabra bloody matta or Ipswich jets maybe

I reckon each could start at a place like Bulldogs, warriors, eels, even Tigers.

 

[BLM01]

Then replace them like for like. And take a look at last season and improve on the players that failed to deliver.

We have and we will. Sims and a new back TBA. Patience POSSM. It is only November. Silly season has months to run

 

[BLM01]

He hasn’t reached his potential yet
Part of the reason is he needs a wee bit more mongrel in his blood
Needs a bit of attitude in my opinion

I think he has reached his potential best spot at NRL level. Utility. He has mongrel for his size but lacks vision for any spine position. Not sure about hooker. He is average as a centre or winger but does not set the game alight their either as his pace his only average, defense OK too. I watched him closely when we signed him and still at Melbourne. He was only average there too, never did anything to make you stand up and take notice in the centre or wing.except desperate recruitment from McGregor as we were in a big hole with the squad we had around 2013-2015

 

[Fire]

I was hoping this thread would die by page 70. Wishful thinking

 

[Brutalitops]

We have and we will. Sims and a new back TBA. Patience POSSM. It is only November. Silly season has months to run

Yeah I don't know why anyone would expect the roster to be completed. The cap audit is coming and who knows how many other clubs will need to offload players. We are one of few in a position to offer a competitive number to just about anyone who isn't after 700 plus

 

[Fire]

How does the legal process work >
Hayne goes to Court . Enters a plea . Then trial .
I am asking because how does a Court official (judge or magistrate) deal with all the gory details (pun intended) being reported in the media today ?

I guess it will get down to the respective party’s believability/ credibility in a she says/he says situation.

The procedure in New South Wales can be complicated. However, in Hayne's case it's about as straight-forward as investigation, arrest, and bail can get. Below is an outline of what has happened to Hayne so far:

- Police investigated Hayne's alleged offence and made a decision to prosecute.

- Police arrested Hayne without warrant.

- Hayne may now be subject to investigative procedures such as interviews, identity parades, collection of DNA, etc.

- Court attendance notice issued and/or served (not sure which in his situation) to Hayne.

- Hayne granted bail, conditions met, and he was released.

- Hayne now appears at Burwood Local Court on Monday 10 December 2018 to answer allegation.

The interesting issue in Hayne's case is the offence he is being prosecuted for is an indictable offence (and as such should be heard before a superior court (i.e., the District or Supreme Court)). If a prosecutor believes that Hayne is likely to serve more than two years' imprisonment he or she will elect to have the matter tried on indictment in the District (or Supreme) Court. As the prosecutor has elected to have the matter heard before a Local Court (where a magistrate, generally, cannot impose a penalty of more than two years' imprisonment) tells me that Hayne will likely plead guilty to a lesser offence and not serve a custodial sentence.

Long story longer: In my opinion Hayne won't do time and won't be convicted of aggravated sexual assault but may be convicted of a lesser offence.

 

[BLM01]

Yeah I don't know why anyone would expect the roster to be completed. The cap audit is coming and who knows how many other clubs will need to offload players. We are one of few in a position to offer a competitive number to just about anyone who isn't after 700 plus

We might even have a bit more to spend. We have 2 spots to fill and last year we lost JT without replacing him with a same salaried player of about 450K-500K but others were upgraded fom 2019 per annum too, to possibly balance that out for this year

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

The procedure in New South Wales can be complicated. However, in Hayne's case it's about as straight-forward as investigation, arrest, and bail can get. Below is an outline of what has happened to Hayne so far:

- Police investigated Hayne's alleged offence and made a decision to prosecute.

- Police arrested Hayne without warrant.

- Hayne may now be subject to investigative procedures such as interviews, identity parades, collection of DNA, etc.

- Court attendance notice issued and/or served (not sure which in his situation) to Hayne.

- Hayne granted bail, conditions met, and he was released.

- Hayne now appears at Burwood Local Court on Monday 10 December 2018 to answer allegation.

The interesting issue in Hayne's case is the offence he is being prosecuted for is an indictable offence (and as such should be heard before a superior court (i.e., the District or Supreme Court)). If a prosecutor believes that Hayne is likely to serve more than two years' imprisonment he or she will elect to have the matter tried on indictment in the District (or Supreme) Court. As the prosecutor has elected to have the matter heard before a Local Court (where a magistrate, generally, cannot impose a penalty of more than two years' imprisonment) tells me that Hayne will likely plead guilty to a lesser offence and not serve a custodial sentence.

Long story longer: In my opinion Hayne won't do time and won't be convicted of aggravated sexual assault but may be convicted of a lesser offence.

Thanks for your learned imput, Fire.

 

[Outlaw Pete]

Thanks Fire.

 

[Changa]

I'm very confident the Bennett/Seibold 2019 swap will open doors for more player transfers. Problem now is we will also need to compete with scum for the quality outside backs looking to go on the move.

 

[giboz71]

We might even have a bit more to spend. We have 2 spots to fill and last year we lost JT without replacing him with a same salaried player of about 450K-500K but others were upgraded fom 2019 per annum too, to possibly balance that out for this year

We never really replaced Dugan either as Dufty took his spot on what is probably a rookie deal. We were supposedly offering Duges $700k.

I'm guessing some of that went to upgrade Mann, Lafai and Aitken.

 

[Belta]

I'm very confident the Bennett/Seibold 2019 swap will open doors for more player transfers. Problem now is we will also need to compete with scum for the quality outside backs looking to go on the move.

Had the same thoughts when I heard about Holmes. Cronulla have let go plenty of late. You’d think they’d be in a position to make some big plays. That’s why the recruiting of Korbin is well timed. I’m sure the Narks would throw some at Tariq based on his form last year.

However With Korbin arriving (who made an interesting comment about Tariq leaving Newy) It will be an added reason for Tariq to stay on a mid to long term deal.

 

[possm]

We have and we will. Sims and a new back TBA. Patience POSSM. It is only November. Silly season has months to run

Would say that K Sims for Ah Mau is a like for like and have not problem with this only, we were short on first grade prop last year and are still short one for 2019. We have a few ISP props and should never have extended Latimore or Allgood, their used by date has expired.

Losing Macdonald and Herbert for me is a big blow. Currently we have not replaced Macdonald and we do not have a backup for Dufty. To me it seems the only backup winger we have is Pereira - left wing. No recognised right winger. In the centres we have Lomax and Mann as our best combination however, Mary is likely to be as stubborn as ever and select Lomax out of position on the right wing - outside Aitken of all players and use Mann as a utility again. So it looks to be Lomax as the backup for Dufty and Mann to the right wing as backup for Lomax. This is why we have problems with our back 5; Mary just does not have a clue.

 

[Brutalitops]

We have a few ISP props and should never have extended Latimore or Allgood, their used by date has expired.

Latimore is exactly the kind of bottom dollar/minimum wage solid performer every team needs if they want to have any semblance of a salary cap while still remaining competitive

 

[BLM01]

We never really replaced Dugan either as Dufty took his spot on what is probably a rookie deal. We were supposedly offering Duges $700k.

I'm guessing some of that went to upgrade Mann, Lafai and Aitken.

Those upgrades were done and we were still offering Dugan his no more than 700K so you may be right we should of had a bit in reserve. Get to it Basil!

 

[BLM01]

Would say that K Sims for Ah Mau is a like for like and have not problem with this only, we were short on first grade prop last year and are still short one for 2019. We have a few ISP props and should never have extended Latimore or Allgood, their used by date has expired.

Losing Macdonald and Herbert for me is a big blow. Currently we have not replaced Macdonald and we do not have a backup for Dufty. To me it seems the only backup winger we have is Pereira - left wing. No recognised right winger. In the centres we have Lomax and Mann as our best combination however, Mary is likely to be as stubborn as ever and select Lomax out of position on the right wing - outside Aitken of all players and use Mann as a utility again. So it looks to be Lomax as the backup for Dufty and Mann to the right wing as backup for Lomax. This is why we have problems with our back 5; Mary just does not have a clue.

We are not really short now. Blake Lawrie ring a bell. I think we have 4 average props in our starting 17 with Sims, Graham & Vaughan...but 1 more big name would help especially with a major injury
Latimore did enough to prove his worth as an ISP and / or a back up 1st grade prop.
Again..McDonald & Herbert. No loss IMO,and we signed 2 wingers although not tested at 1st grade level enough.
And this will be the last time I say this on any forum..I am going to wait until March and see what Mary does with the back 5 without 2nd guessing before commenting which may include signing another decent back by then. It sounds to me POSS..you are losing too much sleep ATM over this back 5 and the broken lack of a prop recording. Lets review it in March-April 2019 to see who is there after the silly season is over and how we trial & start.