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Dragons Coach For 2014

Elias1983

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Is it a possibility that Price has drawn up a list of players, given it to Doust and Young to do the negotiating and chasing?

Maybe Doust has let Price focus purely on the team after the rough start?


Time will tell I guess......
 

Twenty10

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Is it a possibility that Price has drawn up a list of players, given it to Doust and Young to do the negotiating and chasing?

Maybe Doust has let Price focus purely on the team after the rough start?


Time will tell I guess......

Possible... But I just find it so ridiculous that price hasn't even met the new recruits and had zero involvement. That is of course if price is to be the coach next year. And if they did extend his contract what message does that send?? They believe he is good enough to coach but not good enough to attract players?? It's all a bit weird
 

Elias1983

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Possible... But I just find it so ridiculous that price hasn't even met the new recruits and had zero involvement. That is of course if price is to be the coach next year. And if they did extend his contract what message does that send?? They believe he is good enough to coach but not good enough to attract players?? It's all a bit weird

Agree with this part...It is weird. And when it's weird it usually means somethings up....where' there's smoke....

The next 2-3 weeks will dictate price's future I think. if he can win 2 our of the next 3 games he will put some serious pressure on the board to retain him...
 

The Enforcer

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Agree with this part...It is weird. And when it's weird it usually means somethings up....where' there's smoke....

The next 2-3 weeks will dictate price's future I think. if he can win 2 our of the next 3 games he will put some serious pressure on the board to retain him...
Roosters, Manly and then the Titans away, so 2 out of 3 would be a great result.
 

BennyV

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Possible... But I just find it so ridiculous that price hasn't even met the new recruits and had zero involvement. That is of course if price is to be the coach next year. And if they did extend his contract what message does that send?? They believe he is good enough to coach but not good enough to attract players?? It's all a bit weird

That is strange - but the other way to look at it is having too much on his plate. He's only in his second year coaching, chances are he's given said 'list' to Doust and Doust/Young have run with it so that Pricey can focus purely on the team. In a few years when he knows how to balance it a bit better, he may get back into the negotiation game. Is there anything to say that Price isn't meeting/briefly chatting with these new recruits?
 

hermidale1

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The bottom line is nobody really knows what the situation is with the recruitment side of things. Maybe you're right BennyV. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dragons are in fact looking at signing Brad Aurthur as the assistant coach to work alongside Steve Price.
 

Slippery Morris

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The Price haters were obviously itching for a loss. I guess the Pacific test will have to do

Itching for a loss. We saw 3 allready this season. This one just made it more embarrassing for him. Even Charlie Tonga could fire up his squad and made them play to some game plan.

I just hope if Saints DO decide to re-sign him to wait at least till the end of the season better still the next 3 games not judge him after 3 wins. If they re-sign him after 3 wins then the management is really not up to scratch to run this club.
 

watatank

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The bottom line is nobody really knows what the situation is with the recruitment side of things. Maybe you're right BennyV. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dragons are in fact looking at signing Brad Aurthur as the assistant coach to work alongside Steve Price.

It's possible but he's already got a similar position alongside Toovey (incidently another rookie coach), not sure why he would leave unless it was to be head coach.
 

Twenty10

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The bottom line is nobody really knows what the situation is with the recruitment side of things. Maybe you're right BennyV. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dragons are in fact looking at signing Brad Aurthur as the assistant coach to work alongside Steve Price.

Mate, Brad Arthur would not leave manly to be steve prices assistant!!
 

possm

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Is it a possibility that Price has drawn up a list of players, given it to Doust and Young to do the negotiating and chasing?

Maybe Doust has let Price focus purely on the team after the rough start?


Time will tell I guess......

Possible but not probable.

Your're forgetting that the team turned around only after external assistance was provided. This showed Doust and the Board that we have the cattle but not the coach. None of the pro Price members want to recognise this fact.

Sure we need to freshen up with some young attacking players but the games against the Sharks and the Knights proved that the game plans have been the main problem.
 

Elias1983

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Below is the 2nd half of an article off the NRL.COM website...

The first half had nothing in it worth posting here..

http://www.nrl.com/storm-dont-fear-anyone-in-nrl-widdop/tabid/10874/newsid/71853/default.aspx

It's understood the money offered from the Dragons was too good for the 24-year-old father of two to refuse.

Widdop said he also wanted to take on more of a leadership role; something blocked at the Storm by the likes of Test regulars Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater.

"The Dragons are a great club and have got a lot of history and they offered me a really good deal that I was really happy with," he said.

"It's a bit of an opportunity to go and maybe take on more of a leadership role within the club."

The England international said he'd had no guarantees about who would be coaching at the Dragons next year, with the future of off-contract Steve Price still unclear.

"They're happy with Price and the way things are going and that's how it was left
really," he said.


Hmmmmm, So he signed knowing the coaching situation has not been resolved.....

Or he knows and is keeping his mouth shut...

His last comment of saying they are happy with Price is interesting...
 

Elias1983

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Smoke screen... He'd know for sure... been told to keep quiet.

You would think so hey?

It must have played a big role in his decision one way or the other.

With either another coach coming on board or if Price were to be retained he would have somehow gotten some info on how he operates and made a decision from there.
 

bottle

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1) Re Price's success following 'external assistance'. How do we know this wasn't at his request, hence a smart move on his part?
Answer: We don't.

Therefore people alluding to this as being a sign that management had no faith in him are talking out of their arse. We have absolutely no idea how this came into being. It may have been something in train for twelve months before it came to fruition. I'm stunned he didn't have 'external assistance' in this regard well before it was revealed. It's common practice in coaching nowadays, it may have just been a matter of availability of the party in question.

2) Various people claiming they know definitively that either Price is staying, or Sheens is coming, or both, or neither, or making up fantasies about board decisions with Sheens coming and Arthur being his preferred assistant. Dead set we have enough scenario writers in here to set up in opposition to Disney or Dreamworks. The most likely scenario is nobody knows shit because the Board hasn't made a decision yet. Why?
Answer: Because that would be the most prudent and intelligent thing to do.

It's too soon to see if Price can meet his first challenge which is to see if he can improve on last year's performance. As some have rightfully said, the real measure in that regard comes in the next three weeks, not the last three. A circumspect management team would want to see how he handles games against three formidable opponents, not three middle of the road opponents.

I for one hope we don't know a decision after the Board meeting tomorrow night. A decision to either can or keep Price would be premature in that time frame in my view. Sheens isn't going anywhere yet, neither is Arthur if it comes to that. There are other options as well in both ESL and the NRL as current assistant coaches at various clubs. There are solutions available it is deemed that they are required.

3) Those slicing him up over being at the helm of a one off cobbled together 'International' team in Samoa are just using it to reinforce their own bias. What a joke. Frankly I don't give a f**k how Samoa went apart from enjoying the game as a spectacle. I don't see that game as a measure of anything except how unlikely it is we will ever see it played again following the scenes at full time.

As for blaming him for the team selection, did he even select the team? Does anybody know that for sure? Wouldn't it help to know that before blaming him for it? I'd be surprised if he was wholly responsible for that. I'm happy to hold him wholly responsible for the selection of the Saints side week on week, but not for the exhibition event.

4)
getsmarty said:
Smoke screen... He'd know for sure... been told to keep quiet.
Not necessarily. Players often change clubs without knowing for certain the coaching situation at that club with 100% guarantee. Maloney to the Roosters for example. At the time he made that deal he had no way of knowing with any certainty who the Roosters coach would be in 2013. Money, lifestyle, career, there are many other drivers to decision making.

5) Recruitement. Again, none of us know what role Price is playing in this apart from what we see in the media. If such reports are to be believed, very little. Hence blaming him for lack of recruitment is dumb at best with lack of any supporting evidence.

We also don't know why this approach is being adopted. Maybe it is seen as a sound management practice to allow him to focus on his core task, which is establishing systems and practices of his own. A gradual hand over may follow. To assume it is a lack of faith in his abilities in this regard is presupposing that one has the ability to read into other people's motivations. I'm fairly confident that no one here has that ability, so second guessing is pointless.



People constructing phantom Bord meetings and subsequent decisions in their own minds smacks of delusion designed to support fallacious arguments. However what will be will be and nothing said here will change it, so fantasise away.
 

bottle

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It was multiple points. Too many for you to comprehend I'm sure, cause it was more than one.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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If Saints did not retain Soward because they think his performance is not up to scratch then why would they retain Price? I woud be spewing if I was Soward if Price is resigned and he wasn't. It's as if they are blaming Soward for the poor performances for the team which is a bit harsh. If Saints are consistent with there approach then Price should also be shafted.
 

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