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Dylan Brown - charged sexual touching

Poupou Escobar

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Thanks, mild Sheik Hilaly!

The reality is, if you put "some" or any blame on Women, it becomes a slippery slope. Alluring attire according to who? Is showing cleavage alluring attire? Is a figure hugging dress but no cleavage alluring attire? Is a tight jeans with a massive badonkadonk alluring attire? Is showing ankles and eyes alluring attire?
As with any risk mitigation strategy, the answer is always that it depends.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yeah old mate Jordan Peterson thinks (paraphrasing) women that wear makeup at work, high heels etc are being hypocritical if they complain about being sexually harassed. Did he really mean that or is he just playing devil's advocate for the 456,872th time ? Who knows.

Anywho plenty of men think that.

If 40% of women believe it maybe it’s not a myth after all. Are the other 60% perhaps just being dishonest?
 
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I think in general if a woman goes out in alluring attire to a place where men will be consuming alcohol (a well-known disinhibitor) then she must bare some (notice I said 'some') responsibility for any adverse outcomes that might take place.
I get the point that you're making (and respect your view)... but I don't think we males can use the excuse of alluring clothing (any more...) to allow us to expect to "sexually touch" someone against their consent.

It's not the 70s or 80s, and times have changed since the old Razzamattaz TV ads.
 

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If 40% of women believe it maybe it’s not a myth after all. Are the other 60% perhaps just being dishonest?
You tell me merkin. Maybe they took the poll during a break in bingo. After the tea was poured but before Jess opened her tupperware container full to the brim of her shortbread, which won a ribbon once at the Tilba Tilba show.

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Poupou Escobar

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I get the point that you're making (and respect your view)... but I don't think we males can use the excuse of alluring clothing (any more...) to allow us to expect to "sexually touch" someone against their consent.

It's not the 70s or 80s, and times have changed since the old Razzamattaz TV ads.
It’s not ‘we males’ making excuses for ourselves, as if we’re all the f**king same. It’s pointing out that ‘those males’ sometimes don’t give a f**k about right and wrong (or even the law) and the deep emotional scars of being sexually touched without consent won’t be healed by the legal system.
 

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You tell me merkin. Maybe they took the poll during a break in bingo. After the tea was poured but before Jess opened her tupperware container full to the brim of her shortbread, which won a ribbon once at the Tilba Tilba show.

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Ah yes, only older people are stupid and dishonest and brainwashed by ideologues. Younger more modern people are smart and honest free thinkers.
 

Gronk

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Ah yes, only older people are stupid and dishonest and brainwashed by ideologues. Younger more modern people are smart and honest free thinkers.
It's unfair for you describe those who live on the conservative side of the hill as brainwashed. It just means that they tend to hold on to their traditional values and principles. They just drop the anchor to rapid or radical changes in society, politics, or culture. Eventually they give in or wither on the vine.
 

TheCrowe

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Oh ok no problem. Jesus never existed, just made up. It's quite embarrassing. If aliens land and it's Christmas time, they will ask who this is for. For Jesus. Who's he. Nobody. Just a figment of all our imaginations.
Spoken like a true believer.
 
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It’s not ‘we males’ making excuses for ourselves, as if we’re all the f**king same.
No, it's pointing out the various males on here commenting that clothing choice is an excuse for (sexual) touching without consent.

The comment of mine you quoted specifically wasn't about the legal system, and the rest of your comment is irrelevant to discussion (or my quoted post in it).
 

emjaycee

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No, it's pointing out the various males on here commenting that clothing choice is an excuse for (sexual) touching without consent.

The comment of mine you quoted specifically wasn't about the legal system, and the rest of your comment is irrelevant to discussion (or my quoted post in it).
I don't think anyone on here has actually said what you are claiming.. i.e. that clothing choice is an excuse for (sexual) touching without consent.

There are comments that a female who dresses more provocatively may increase her chances of becoming a sexual target, but as far as I can recall, no one has excused the behaviour of males who touch someone without consent.
 
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I don't think anyone on here has actually said what you are claiming.. i.e. that clothing choice is an excuse for (sexual) touching without consent.

There are comments that a female who dresses more provocatively may increase her chances of becoming a sexual target, but as far as I can recall, no one has excused the behaviour of males who touch someone without consent.
Ok, that's your interpretation of the words used in posts in this thread...

I'll wait then for the avalanche of posts agreeing with mine and stating that "of course, what clothing a woman chooses to wear should have no bearing on whether dudes feel more entitled to touch their breasts" or similar.

However on my interpretation of the words used in posts in this thread, I may be waiting some time.
 
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For the record, it was a pretty similar phenomenon during the Hayne hearings - merkins here putting forward any excuse to diminish the responsibility of the male in the situation, and to put it on the female in the situation...

Until such time as two juries had found Hayne guilty as charged, then all that mysogyny seemed to quiet down a bit, until now.
 
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That means he shouldn't be able to play football for 18 months. That's good. Should learn his lesson.
Yeah.. nah. It means he's doing some court-mandated community service and is required to be of good behaviour for 18 months. I expect he'll be named and clear to play this weekend - having already served a 3 game stand down, and likely with an NRL fine to pay.
 
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